| Protect them from outside contact at all cost. | 21% | 21% - 13 | ||||
| Let em' be & put up a few warning signs. | 44% | 44% - 27 | ||||
| Make contact (humanitarian aid & trade <-?) | 8% | 8% - 5 | ||||
| Wipe em' out 'Predator' style! | 21% | 21% - 13 | ||||
| Piss off Brinson! | 4% | 4% - 3 | ||||
| Total: 61 | ||||||
first thing .................... get them on this forum and 4chanTurquoise wrote:
Contact them and modernize them.
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They have no immunity to modern diseases. A cold could wipe out their entire tribe.Turquoise wrote:
Contact them and modernize them.
If you put up signs, ya might as well write on them " Here is an unfucked with tribe, go fuck with them".Stingray24 wrote:
Let em be, put up signs.
The only problem is that ANYONE born in Amercia is both "native" and "indigenous." I am descended from so many Eurpoean natioins and cultrues that is would bore me to list them all. I do have about 1/32 (American Indian) blood in me. However, I was born here. I am a Native American. I am ingienous to this culture, having been born and raised into it.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Native Americans or Indigenous Americans.SenorToenails wrote:
What do you call them?Mek-Stizzle wrote:
You guys still call them Indians...
You pick a better term. Those guys aren't from hereimortal wrote:
The only problem is that ANYONE born in Amercia is both "native" and "indigenous." I am descended from so many Eurpoean natioins and cultrues that is would bore me to list them all. I do have about 1/32 (American Indian) blood in me. However, I was born here. I am a Native American. I am ingienous to this culture, having been born and raised into it.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Native Americans or Indigenous Americans.SenorToenails wrote:
What do you call them?
Pick a better term.
Aboriginal Americans.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
You pick a better term. Those guys aren't from hereimortal wrote:
The only problem is that ANYONE born in Amercia is both "native" and "indigenous." I am descended from so many Eurpoean natioins and cultrues that is would bore me to list them all. I do have about 1/32 (American Indian) blood in me. However, I was born here. I am a Native American. I am ingienous to this culture, having been born and raised into it.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Native Americans or Indigenous Americans.
Pick a better term.
And they are the Indigenous Americans when you talk about the broadly accepted term. Europeans/Asians/Blacks/Whatever else that lives in America aren't Indigenous Americans in the generally accepted term. They're just American.
If we vaccinate them, they will be ok.iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:
They have no immunity to modern diseases. A cold could wipe out their entire tribe.Turquoise wrote:
Contact them and modernize them.
Still have issues with both 'native,' and 'indigenous.' Maybe not now, but in a generation. Aborinial simply refers to the earliest known settlers or species to live in an area. It is actually appropriate.tuckergustav wrote:
OK...but this is in Brazil...so...Native Brazilian Tribe? Right? or as some are calling them...an Amazon Basin Tribe...just a thought.imortal wrote:
Aboriginal Americans.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
You pick a better term. Those guys aren't from here
And they are the Indigenous Americans when you talk about the broadly accepted term. Europeans/Asians/Blacks/Whatever else that lives in America aren't Indigenous Americans in the generally accepted term. They're just American.
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lol... I know what you're saying, but... You do realize if we don't go ahead and contact them, someone else probably will, and probably without any intention of keeping them from dying (loggers).tuckergustav wrote:
Or better yet...why don't we bring them some blankets...Turquoise wrote:
If we vaccinate them, they will be ok.iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:
They have no immunity to modern diseases. A cold could wipe out their entire tribe.
I say let them be...
Most of the benefits are for them. The surviving ones will be immune to the same diseases we are, and they'll live under much better conditions. Living in a loincloth in a thatched hut isn't exactly a pleasant experience compared to modern amenities.tuckergustav wrote:
What are the benefits to "modernizing" them?Turquoise wrote:
lol... I know what you're saying, but... You do realize if we don't go ahead and contact them, someone else probably will, and probably without any intention of keeping them from dying (loggers).
In short, cultures this primitive are so endangered that we might as well risk modernization, because we'll at least have a better chance of helping them adapt than the other kinds of contact they'll face otherwise.
The link you posted about the FSM is pretty funny and cool. In principle, I agree with it. In practice, we all make judgment calls. It's almost impossible to live in such a way as to never say something is "better" than something else.tuckergustav wrote:
Who says that the way we live is better for them? (Do you see where I am going with this? Remember the link I posted about Flying Spaghetti Monster?)Turquoise wrote:
Most of the benefits are for them. The surviving ones will be immune to the same diseases we are, and they'll live under much better conditions. Living in a loincloth in a thatched hut isn't exactly a pleasant experience compared to modern amenities.tuckergustav wrote:
What are the benefits to "modernizing" them?
I can see why you feel the way you do. However, it is a life that they are accustomed to. Maybe a more simple way of life IS better.
...and who is the Godlike board of noble individuals that get to determine the desities of other cultures? Who says "They will be happier as they are; leave them alone," and how do they know?Turquoise wrote:
The link you posted about the FSM is pretty funny and cool. In principle, I agree with it. In practice, we all make judgment calls. It's almost impossible to live in such a way as to never say something is "better" than something else.tuckergustav wrote:
Who says that the way we live is better for them? (Do you see where I am going with this? Remember the link I posted about Flying Spaghetti Monster?)Turquoise wrote:
Most of the benefits are for them. The surviving ones will be immune to the same diseases we are, and they'll live under much better conditions. Living in a loincloth in a thatched hut isn't exactly a pleasant experience compared to modern amenities.
I can see why you feel the way you do. However, it is a life that they are accustomed to. Maybe a more simple way of life IS better.
So, I just choose to apply my own preferences to these people. Maybe that's imperialist, but I justify it by showing that the survivors could contribute to our economy by joining us and modernizing. I'm also saying that living like tribespeople is inferior to modern life for the very fact that they are vulnerable to us. If things were the other way around, I would say they are superior.
Dominance in medicine and technology may not be everything, but it is more practical to be more advanced in both of these things as compared to not being advanced in either.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that adaptation is the most important facet of existence, because without it, you die.
True... there are definitely environmental concerns here.tuckergustav wrote:
100% agreed...we should be stopping the loggers anyways for several other reason too...Turquoise wrote:
Those are good points as well. I'll put it this way... If we decide to keep from messing with them, we're going to have to immediately stop the encroachment of loggers. Otherwise, it's not going to be a matter of indoctrination and instead a matter of extinction.
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