BF2S Forums You Gotta Love The Iranians

rammunition wrote:

not to long ago the U.S branded and listed The Islamic Revolution's Guards Corps (IRGC)  as a "terrorist organization"

in response the Iranian Parliament have voted to brand the C.I.A and the U.S army as "terrorist organizations"

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast … index.html

love them or hate them the Iranians have balls to stand up to the Neo-cons and are the only 2/3 non U.S puppets in the Middle East. Iran has more of a case to brand the U.S army/CIA as terrorist than america has against the IRGC.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

yes they train hezbollah and hamas but they are resistance groups who were found AFTER Israeli aggression towards their people, NOT BEFORE.


Who has more of a case???

Who has more of a case? How about the organization that does NOT train to target innocent women and children for death to forward their cause?

Your admiration for such groups and your disdain for the fight against them does not speak well of you. In fact, you are a joke

lowing wrote:

rammunition wrote:

not to long ago the U.S branded and listed The Islamic Revolution's Guards Corps (IRGC)  as a "terrorist organization"

in response the Iranian Parliament have voted to brand the C.I.A and the U.S army as "terrorist organizations"

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast … index.html

love them or hate them the Iranians have balls to stand up to the Neo-cons and are the only 2/3 non U.S puppets in the Middle East. Iran has more of a case to brand the U.S army/CIA as terrorist than america has against the IRGC.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

yes they train hezbollah and hamas but they are resistance groups who were found AFTER Israeli aggression towards their people, NOT BEFORE.


Who has more of a case???

Who has more of a case? How about the organization that does NOT train to target innocent women and children for death to forward their cause?

Your admiration for such groups and your disdain for the fight against them does not speak well of you. In fact, you are a joke

Is this the same CIA which has trained many south american rebels to kill cubans etc???

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

rammunition wrote:

not to long ago the U.S branded and listed The Islamic Revolution's Guards Corps (IRGC)  as a "terrorist organization"

in response the Iranian Parliament have voted to brand the C.I.A and the U.S army as "terrorist organizations"

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast … index.html

love them or hate them the Iranians have balls to stand up to the Neo-cons and are the only 2/3 non U.S puppets in the Middle East. Iran has more of a case to brand the U.S army/CIA as terrorist than america has against the IRGC.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

yes they train hezbollah and hamas but they are resistance groups who were found AFTER Israeli aggression towards their people, NOT BEFORE.


Who has more of a case???

Who has more of a case? How about the organization that does NOT train to target innocent women and children for death to forward their cause?

Your admiration for such groups and your disdain for the fight against them does not speak well of you. In fact, you are a joke

Is this the same CIA which has trained many south american rebels to kill cubans etc???

I dunno are you telling me the CIA has trained rebels to kill women and children? If so please provide a link to the curriculum

lowing wrote:

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

Who has more of a case? How about the organization that does NOT train to target innocent women and children for death to forward their cause?

Your admiration for such groups and your disdain for the fight against them does not speak well of you. In fact, you are a joke

Is this the same CIA which has trained many south american rebels to kill cubans etc???

I dunno are you telling me the CIA has trained rebels to kill women and children? If so please provide a link to the curriculum

1961
    U.S. organizes force of 1400 anti-Castro Cubans, ships it to the Bahía de los Cochinos. Castro's army routs it.
1961
    CIA-backed coup overthrows elected Pres. J. M. Velasco Ibarra of Ecuador, who has been too friendly with Cuba.
1962
    CIA engages in campaign in Brazil to keep João Goulart from achieving control of Congress.
1963
    CIA-backed coup overthrows elected social democrat Juan Bosch in the Dominican Republic.
1984
    CIA mines three Nicaraguan harbors. Nicaragua takes this action to the World Court, which brings an $18 billion judgment against the U.S. The U.S. refuses to recognize the Court's jurisdiction in the case.
1989
    U.S. invades Panama to dislodge CIA boy gone wrong Manuel Noriega, an event which marks the evolution of the U.S.'s favorite excuse from Communism to drugs.

read this link of the death tolls of some of the mentioned places

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

Last edited by rammunition (2008-06-03 06:24:46)

Personally I'd argue that as a government building Embassy of Israel is a legitimate target.  Don't know anythin about the Jewish Org (do you just mean an orginastion run by Jews?), and Hezbollah certainly are terrorists (because they target civilians).

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Is this the same CIA which has trained many south american rebels to kill cubans etc???

I dunno are you telling me the CIA has trained rebels to kill women and children? If so please provide a link to the curriculum

1961
    U.S. organizes force of 1400 anti-Castro Cubans, ships it to the Bahía de los Cochinos. Castro's army routs it.
1961
    CIA-backed coup overthrows elected Pres. J. M. Velasco Ibarra of Ecuador, who has been too friendly with Cuba.
1962
    CIA engages in campaign in Brazil to keep João Goulart from achieving control of Congress.
1963
    CIA-backed coup overthrows elected social democrat Juan Bosch in the Dominican Republic.
1984
    CIA mines three Nicaraguan harbors. Nicaragua takes this action to the World Court, which brings an $18 billion judgment against the U.S. The U.S. refuses to recognize the Court's jurisdiction in the case.
1989
    U.S. invades Panama to dislodge CIA boy gone wrong Manuel Noriega, an event which marks the evolution of the U.S.'s favorite excuse from Communism to drugs.

read this link of the death tolls of some of the mentioned places

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

This is not what I asked for. Please provide links to a CIA training curriculum in which the murdering of women and children are taught.

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Is this the same CIA which has trained many south american rebels to kill cubans etc???

I dunno are you telling me the CIA has trained rebels to kill women and children? If so please provide a link to the curriculum

1961
    U.S. organizes force of 1400 anti-Castro Cubans, ships it to the Bahía de los Cochinos. Castro's army routs it.
1961
    CIA-backed coup overthrows elected Pres. J. M. Velasco Ibarra of Ecuador, who has been too friendly with Cuba.
1962
    CIA engages in campaign in Brazil to keep João Goulart from achieving control of Congress.
1963
    CIA-backed coup overthrows elected social democrat Juan Bosch in the Dominican Republic.
1984
    CIA mines three Nicaraguan harbors. Nicaragua takes this action to the World Court, which brings an $18 billion judgment against the U.S. The U.S. refuses to recognize the Court's jurisdiction in the case.
1989
    U.S. invades Panama to dislodge CIA boy gone wrong Manuel Noriega, an event which marks the evolution of the U.S.'s favorite excuse from Communism to drugs.

read this link of the death tolls of some of the mentioned places

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p2032818

That's not the thread where every death in those conflicts regardless of who caused them you attributed to the US is it?

/looks

aye it is.

There's only one group in that area supplying Hezbollah with RPG-29's, Milan missile systems and the like, and that's Iran and Hezbollah openly target civilian areas. Also those events you posted, I don't see anything regarding US-backed militia groups purposefully killing civilians. The last event you listed happened 19 years ago as well, and Noriega is also listed as this:

The United States invasion of Panama, codenamed Operation Just Cause, was the invasion of Panama by the United States that deposed general, dictator and de facto Panamanian military leader Manuel Noriega in December 1989.

Found a little extra as well:

The Panamanian people overwhelmingly supported the action. According to one poll, 92% of Panamanian adults supported the U.S. incursion, and 76% wished that U.S. forces had invaded in October during the coup.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2008-06-03 07:12:29)

Certainly, but I'd argue they were targetting the Israeli government, and therefore it wasn't a terrorist attack.

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Certainly, but I'd argue they were targetting the Israeli government, and therefore it wasn't a terrorist attack.

I can't agree with that, but it's your opinion and you have the right to think it wasn't a terrorist attack.  Had they killed the ambassador or another appointee and no civilians, then I'd agree.

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Certainly, but I'd argue they were targetting the Israeli government, and therefore it wasn't a terrorist attack.

I can't agree with that, but it's your opinion and you have the right to think it wasn't a terrorist attack.  Had they killed the ambassador or another appointee and no civilians, then I'd agree.

My personal view regards the target: it allows things like military collateral damage to be excluded (which prevents everyone from becoming a terrorist).

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I can't agree with that, but it's your opinion and you have the right to think it wasn't a terrorist attack.  Had they killed the ambassador or another appointee and no civilians, then I'd agree.

My personal view regards the target: it allows things like military collateral damage to be excluded (which prevents everyone from becoming a terrorist).

I don't know if an embassy qualifies as a military target.

Yeah I'm not too sure about that, I mean, its guarded by militarty personnel sometimes (Marines at any US embassy) but don't think that qualifies as military.

sergeriver wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I can't agree with that, but it's your opinion and you have the right to think it wasn't a terrorist attack.  Had they killed the ambassador or another appointee and no civilians, then I'd agree.

My personal view regards the target: it allows things like military collateral damage to be excluded (which prevents everyone from becoming a terrorist).

I don't know if an embassy qualifies as a military target.

thats a tricky one.....if you were going to start a war with someone, the embassy would be a great place to start.
after all, a lot of the people that are in there are spooks anyway.

which leads me to ask a new question:
are cia employees valid targets, or do they count as civilians?