too_money2007
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+145|6731|Keller, Tx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24958259/

BANGKOK, Thailand - U.S. Navy ships are leaving Myanmar after failing to get the junta's permission to unload aid to "ease the suffering of hundreds of thousands" of cyclone survivors, the top U.S. military commander in the Pacific said Tuesday.

Word of the aborted mercy mission comes even as the United Nations warned that a month after the cyclone swept through Myanmar, more than 1 million people still don't have adequate food, water or shelter and junta policies are hindering relief efforts.

Adm. Timothy Keating ordered the vessels to leave the Myanmar area Thursday, after the U.S. made at least 15 attempts to convince Myanmar's leaders to allow ships, helicopters and landing craft to offload their aid.

Myanmar's state media has said that it feared a U.S. invasion aimed at seizing the country's oil deposits. But the junta has also forbidden use of military helicopters from friendly neighboring nations, which are vital in rushing supplies to isolated survivors.

Keating, in a news release from Honolulu, said the USS Essex and accompanying ships would return if Myanmar's leaders change their minds.

"I am both saddened and frustrated to know that we have been in a position to help ease the suffering of hundreds of thousands of people and help mitigate further loss of life, but have been unable to do so because of the unrelenting position of the Burma military junta," Keating said. Myanmar is also known as Burma.

..etc etc
I feel bad for the people, as their government isn't taking any steps to help them out. But, I say that it's good we're leaving too. If they don't want our help, then they don't get it. Plain and simple. Though, we'll probably get major crap from the rest of the world for it. And, on the other hand, we'd get major crap if we went in without permission and saved thousands of lives.


/lame
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7044|London, England
Fifteen attempts, you can't say they tried. People say removing the Junta would be just like Iraq/Afghanistan, but these people aren't Muslim nor do they hate everyone and really do want to be Liberated. It wouldn't even take much to start and help an uprising seeing as the locals probably hate them so much too.

Of course, there's nothing to gain from Burma being free, and the Chinese/Indian governments both deal with the Junta and probably wouldn't want someone else in charge. So it aint gonna happen
CameronPoe
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+2,925|6978
Message to Burmese people: Get up off your ass, grab some plastic explosives and a rifle and fucking do something.

https://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTf2wVHEdI7X4AqQZWBQx./SIG=12m97dq6m/EXP=1212706197/**http%3A//www.vacances-sejour.ch/cuba/che-guevara/che-guevara-105.jpg

Self determination.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6766|tropical regions of london
that really didnt turn out well for che.  he's dead and latin america is under the econmic control of the rest of the world.  the few countries that go against the grain are either really poor or really corrupt.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7094|UK

God Save the Queen wrote:

that really didnt turn out well for che.  he's dead and latin america is under the econmic control of the rest of the world.  the few countries that go against the grain are either really poor or really corrupt.
and they lopped of his hands from his corpse! Seriously the bastards!
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
CameronPoe
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God Save the Queen wrote:

that really didnt turn out well for che.  he's dead and latin america is under the econmic control of the rest of the world.  the few countries that go against the grain are either really poor or really corrupt.
Cuba ain't under the control of anybody but Cubans. Latin America is where it is following decades of right wing military dictatorships and ridiculous World Bank 'austerity measures'. Ireland managed it v UK, India managed it v UK, USA managed it v UK, Algeria managed it v France, Vietnam managed it v USA, Afghanistan managed it v USSR, the list is endless.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-06-04 15:58:28)

God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6766|tropical regions of london
Latin America has a shitty political culture.


economic control.  you cant deny that cuba's economy is directly influenced by the United States.
David.P
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Ha! I wonder rammunation will say?
CameronPoe
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God Save the Queen wrote:

Latin America has a shitty political culture.


economic control.  you cant deny that cuba's economy is directly influenced by the United States.
That couldn't be further from the truth. I was there a couple of years ago. Why do you think they're still driving 50s cadillacs? Because there is a 100% complete and total US trade embargo on Cuba!
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6766|tropical regions of london

CameronPoe wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Latin America has a shitty political culture.


economic control.  you cant deny that cuba's economy is directly influenced by the United States.
That couldn't be further from the truth. I was there a couple of years ago. Why do you think they're still driving 50s cadillacs? Because there is a 100% complete and total US trade embargo on Cuba!
I would surely call that a major influence.  Cam, its GS.
CameronPoe
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God Save the Queen wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Latin America has a shitty political culture.


economic control.  you cant deny that cuba's economy is directly influenced by the United States.
That couldn't be further from the truth. I was there a couple of years ago. Why do you think they're still driving 50s cadillacs? Because there is a 100% complete and total US trade embargo on Cuba!
I would surely call that a major influence.  Cam, its GS.
Ah-ha!! Of course it's a major influence in the sense that nothing can happen trade-wise between the two countries, I was thinking about it from the other point of view, i.e., the US interfering internally with their economy (in a corporate sense, etc.). Never guessed it was you!
paul386
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+22|6668
Good.

I don't pay 45% of my income to the government so they can give it to the 3rd world.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6834|'Murka

The US isn't stopping all relief efforts...just those planned from the ships. There are still relief flights going in...as often as Burma's junta will allow them.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
PureFodder
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FEOS wrote:

The US isn't stopping all relief efforts...just those planned from the ships. There are still relief flights going in...as often as Burma's junta will allow them.
Can you arm stealth bombers with aid packages and just... sneak them in when the junta's not looking?
BVC
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+325|7118
Myanmar: Government doesn't want aid, citizens do.
Zimbabwe: Government doesn't want aid, citizens do.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6834|'Murka

PureFodder wrote:

FEOS wrote:

The US isn't stopping all relief efforts...just those planned from the ships. There are still relief flights going in...as often as Burma's junta will allow them.
Can you arm stealth bombers with aid packages and just... sneak them in when the junta's not looking?
Wouldn't provide nearly enough tonnage. And the water/MREs would get kind of squished at the bottom of the drops.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

CameronPoe wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


That couldn't be further from the truth. I was there a couple of years ago. Why do you think they're still driving 50s cadillacs? Because there is a 100% complete and total US trade embargo on Cuba!
I would surely call that a major influence.  Cam, its GS.
Ah-ha!! Of course it's a major influence in the sense that nothing can happen trade-wise between the two countries, I was thinking about it from the other point of view, i.e., the US interfering internally with their economy (in a corporate sense, etc.). Never guessed it was you!
If we weren't stuck in Iraq, I'd support invading Burma.  It's not like anyone would miss the junta.  The Burmese people would probably react far more favorably to us than the Iraqis did.  Granted, I realize that nation building is never an easy task.
thtthht
maximum bullshit
+50|6753|teh alien spaceshit
My tennis coach is from Burma.
He talks shit about his government everytime I see him, but I really do feel sorry for him, since he was able to make contact only very recently and the roof of the family's house in Burma was blown away.
Oh, and the citizens of Burma cannot start a riot.
Saying that the people of burma should start an uproar is fantasy.
Those people have nothing.
NB-DeltaOps
Member
+2|6647
We could arm them. like we did the afghans in the soviet invasion of afghanistan..or maybe make there leaders disapear.. but hey... we kept asking to help them with the box.. and the box made them fall down those stairs..oh well?

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