Poll

Who thinks the PKM is far superior to sniping??

Hell yeah!!!21%21% - 21
At certain times...50%50% - 49
Not a chance!!28%28% - 28
Total: 98
Defiance
Member
+438|7118

ComradeWho wrote:

you gotta be kidding about this thread
just because there are four times the amount of newbie snipers in the game now doesn't mean that anyone with even mediocre talents can't own somebody with a PKM 99% of the time still.
Your post made shit for sense.

There are 4 times as many support players, not 4 times as many snipers.
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7142|Southern California

Defiance wrote:

ComradeWho wrote:

you gotta be kidding about this thread
just because there are four times the amount of newbie snipers in the game now doesn't mean that anyone with even mediocre talents can't own somebody with a PKM 99% of the time still.
Your post made shit for sense.

There are 4 times as many support players, not 4 times as many snipers.
well it did make sense since there are a shit load more snipers AND support in any given game than there used to be.
if you look really carefully you'll see that i'm implying that this post was influenced by the influx of new snipers and just because there are a lot of bad snipers now that are accounting for easy kills doesn't mean that the PKM is superior to the sniper rifle.
i know that message in my post was above a third grade reading level and i took a risk posting it, but i was confident that an explaination was not going to be necessary.

"ooooo.... ahhhhhh... ohhhhhhh.... now i get it!"

Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-02-26 21:03:47)

Defiance
Member
+438|7118

Yes your right, it was above the third grade. But fourth is only one grade up, you should pay more attention in school to stop being held back

More snipers and support then in any given game? So of course BF2s 1.2 patch is going to influence every other game in the world. I'm sure of it.

And what would explain the boost in snipers? Yes, the rifles were made more accurate, but that wouldn't grant an increase of 4x in a bolt action gun in a mainly medium range infrantry game. Take karkand, the most popular map, for example. Point proven.

There has been an increase in snipers, I'll give you that, but it can't touch the heels of the difference in support players.

Now get back on topic. You've stated your opinion, and poorly argued it, now stop.
Stephen_Sung_811007
Member
+4|7147|Taiwan
The PKM is to fucking powerful. MG36 is ok, but PKM is too accurate/powerful.
should be less accurate/powerful than MG36.
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7142|Southern California

Defiance wrote:

Yes your right, it was above the third grade. But fourth is only one grade up, you should pay more attention in school to stop being held back

More snipers and support then in any given game? So of course BF2s 1.2 patch is going to influence every other game in the world. I'm sure of it.

And what would explain the boost in snipers? Yes, the rifles were made more accurate, but that wouldn't grant an increase of 4x in a bolt action gun in a mainly medium range infrantry game. Take karkand, the most popular map, for example. Point proven.

There has been an increase in snipers, I'll give you that, but it can't touch the heels of the difference in support players.

Now get back on topic. You've stated your opinion, and poorly argued it, now stop.
again you missed my point

i think that unless i am as specific as possible about what i mean you are just going to project whatever little traits you want right onto me!
you're going off on some irrelevant tangent and trying to somehow "best me" on this forum. the only way you can possibly best me is to misinterpret my posts, which is sad, project ignorance onto them, and then try to say something condescending. almost as sad as getting into a pissing contest and then ending your shot at spraying the farthest by feigning victory and/or maturity and saying "stop" or "now get a life" or some lame shit.

let's look at this really. i'm big on clarity and when i get into a pissing contest i don't pretend that it's over when it becomes convenient to appearing victorious. so let's see who can really piss the farthest.

1. i post a direct response to this thread which is clear
2. you (for whatever pathetic little reason you did) misunderstand it, become hostile, and project ignorance onto my post
3. i point that out to you, match your condescencion and exceed it in wit, taste, and composition
4. you make a poor attempt at a rebound with flawed reasoning in a feigned attempt to seem objective and intelligent (your reasoning is irrelevant all you have to do is play the game to see that you have teams that are full of nothing but support and sniper), while of course trying to be condescending and sly but again not coming near to my level of wit and grace, then have the audacity to pretend that this whole little excersize is brought on by some neurotic behavior on my part rather than pure unadulterated stupidity and misplaced hostility on your part. what do you have to prove?

Last edited by ComradeWho (2006-02-26 21:46:50)

Trooper_Collider
Member
+25|7191
I've got Expert Support Combat, and I got it before the 1.2 patch. I feel it's just as powerful as it was before the patch, only now is much more accurate. The problem now is that EVERYBODY is using it and that not only unbalances the battlefield, but the team as well. The support class has always been a very popular one, but now not only ALL the noobs are using it, but even the more experienced players do! It seems that everybody is just after getting more points, as usual. Teamwork? barely exists. I'm obviously playing with the other kits since I wanna get the other expert badges too, I just wished I'd had the actual PKM at that time, things would have been a bit easier! Anyway when things get tough I pull out mine too, and it's...moping time!
   BTW, I'm using the Sniper kit a lot know. I love the SVD, my favorite is the Type-88. M95, more damage... I don't like the M24, though. I still don't have the new sniper rifle coz I don't have the SF Expansion, but I've tried it a couple of times from picking it up, and I loved it too. Just to get that rifle I'm buying the expansion  this week. I guess EA finally got me! Lol!


Semper Fi!
Defiance
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+438|7118

If you intend to attack my "wit," I suggest you learn to use proper grammar. You have time to type, which you gratiously took, and have edited both of your posts. It would be nice if you took the time for atleast capitilization.

I'm going to inject this and call it a night, because I asked you to stop, you didn't in an immature fashion to "win" this fight, and it's time for it to end. You might consider me "weak" for trying to end the argument, but really, what's the point? If you want to feel special, consider it a truce, or cease fire.

Sadly, the thread was already ruined.

EDIT: Trooper_Collider, some of my clanmates have been able to get the L96 even w/o spec forces. It's a euro force gun along with the P90, so you should be able to get it.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-02-26 22:18:34)

TigrisJK
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+3|7173
I've been ranking first with the sniper rifle lately and getting a bunch of Golds. That's mostly cause of claymores though. I'm bloody pissed off when a PKM can one-shot me at full burst from the edge of my view distance... but it places a much higher emphasis on concealment, which is a good thing in many ways.

Still, it *is* overpowered, but the sniper kit still has its place, mostly because of the ghillie suit. A sniper kit with a PKM... now there's a kit that could take on armies by itself.

ComradeWho, I'm trying to decide whether to laugh or be offended by your quote of Socrates. Especially since Socrates never actually wrote anything down, and everything we hear about him is passed through others (namely Plato). I'm leaning towards laughter.

Last edited by TigrisJK (2006-02-26 22:22:19)

Defiance
Member
+438|7118

Tigris, get gold with only using the sniper rifle, it's pretty fun especially beating out the commander.

People are like..WTF?! G0LD SN1P3R?!!?!? HAX!!!

I literally got that reaction picking up a few golds as a sniper last night, and only 2 claymores. Gotta love their ability to defend a ladder.

Tip: When your climbing a ladder, go into third person (f11) and you can see claymores before they detonate.
TigrisJK
Member
+3|7173

Defiance wrote:

Tigris, get gold with only using the sniper rifle, it's pretty fun especially beating out the commander.

People are like..WTF?! G0LD SN1P3R?!!?!? HAX!!!

I literally got that reaction picking up a few golds as a sniper last night, and only 2 claymores. Gotta love their ability to defend a ladder.

Tip: When your climbing a ladder, go into third person (f11) and you can see claymores before they detonate.
I can do that easily in Special Forces, with a zipline to relocate whenever I need to. I've been playing Vanilla lately though to play around with the L96.

Or you could just go slow up the last foot or two, you can normally see them just as you peek over the top, jump off, and commit suicide that way.
DrNo
Member
+0|7077

Talon wrote:

I'd say the PKm is now better for sniping than the SVD/Type 88. However,t he long range rifles still rule. I'd like to see the PKM snipe people off the TV station from the construction site, or hit someone from the other end of an airstrip.
You do realize its only 150m from the construction site to the tv station don't you? Thats NOT a long range shot in real life. I know this is a game, but I still find what passes as "long range" humorous. If a 150m was so hard to hit in real life I never would have passed BRM (Basic Rifle Marksmanship) at basic training. Its actually not very difficult to hit a 300m target with a M16 in real life. The 150m tagerts are gimme's. I personally would like to see the accuracy of all the infantry weapons increased. The snipers should be way the heck out there (i.e. 500m+), or in really well hidden locations.

But thats just my opinion...

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