Would an invasion of Zimbabwe be justifiable?

2008-06-06 07:26:13

#1

Switch: Knee Deep In Clunge; +489|6886|Tyne & Wear, England

Should Robert Mugabe's opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai not secure his rightful place as leader of Zimbabwe, would an invasion to remove Mugabe from power be justifiable, and would it be better supported by the population of Zimbabwe as opposed to Iraq for example?

Mugabe has time and time again given the finger to democracy and has recently showed how determined he is to stay in power no matter how underhanded his tactics are.

Morgan Tsvangirai arrested
Zimbabwe halts opposition rallies
Zimbabwe suspends aid operations
Hunger fears after Mugabe aid ban

I often think the only reason he remains there is because of a distinct lack of oil.

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

2008-06-06 07:28:22

#2

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6952|Global Command

I think Africa should solve Africas problems.

2008-06-06 07:29:41

#3

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7180|Argentina

Just shoot him.

2008-06-06 07:31:55

#4

Switch: Knee Deep In Clunge; +489|6886|Tyne & Wear, England

sergeriver wrote:
Just shoot him.

I have often thought that if Mugabe simply 'disappeared' the rest of his organisation would just crumble, unlike Saddam's regime.

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

2008-06-06 07:32:31

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m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7094|UK

ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.

Same could be said for the ME non?

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-06-06 07:35:29

#6

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6713|Éire

ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.

Sooner or later people need to take care of their own affairs otherwise they will continually suffer in the long run. It sounds cruel but it's like helping a wild animal, it might benefit them in the short term but it only hampers their ability to look after themselves in the future.

2008-06-06 07:36:48

#7

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6978

ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.

Amen.

2008-06-06 07:56:55

#8

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6952|Global Command

m3thod wrote:
ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.
Same could be said for the ME non?

In retrospect, probably.

Let Israel deal with Iran and Gaza and fuck all and everybody be quiet?
Right on.

2008-06-06 08:03:11

#9

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7094|UK

ATG wrote:
m3thod wrote:
ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.
Same could be said for the ME non?
In retrospect, probably.

Let Israel deal with Iran and Gaza and fuck all and everybody be quiet?
Right on.

Well the American made bombs and and American exported fuel would run out very quickly. Can't kill every Muslim......Guess you don't know just how much of your hard earned tax dollars go thousands of miles East do you? And nor do you understand the extent of the support your country provides the Israelis.

Without America ZE ARE NOTHING!

Right on baby.

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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-06-06 08:06:46

#10

jord: Member; +2,382|7101|The North, beyond the wall.

He's still there because someone wants him in power, it isn't hard to assassinate him.

2008-06-06 08:09:44

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CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6978

jord wrote:
He's still there because someone wants him in power, it isn't hard to assassinate him.

I work with a guy from Zim. He hates Mugabe and what's he has done to Zimbabwe (his parents still live there) but he contends that Mugabe has never rigged an election, he just has a diehard fanbase. If he did rig elections then let's face it: he would have rigged this one.

2008-06-06 08:14:21

#12

jord: Member; +2,382|7101|The North, beyond the wall.

CameronPoe wrote:
he just has a die-if-they-vote-for-someone-else fanbase.

That he does.

He probably did rig this one, or if he didn't then he sure did a good job of messing up a legitimate victory.

When I say probably I mean I'd bet my family on it.

2008-06-06 08:21:37

#13

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6978

jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
he just has a die-if-they-vote-for-someone-else fanbase.
That he does.

He probably did rig this one, or if he didn't then he sure did a good job of messing up a legitimate victory.

When I say probably I mean I'd bet my family on it.

He didn't rig it - the posted totals for all election centres clearly add up to a Tsvangirai victory of 50.3%. The corruption has come in the form of him demanding a run-off, which should only occur if one runner has less than 50%.

2008-06-06 08:27:35

#14

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7180|Argentina

CameronPoe wrote:
ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.
Amen.

Following this line of thinking they should have let Europe solve their problems during WWII. It would have been Hitler v. Stalin, so we could say that most of Europe would probably be speaking Russian or German.

2008-06-06 08:29:29

#15

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7023|132 and Bush

As far as Americans..

Q:Would an invasion of Zimbabwe be justifiable?
A: Not if you read our Constitution.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-06-06 08:37:44

#16

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7023|132 and Bush

CameronPoe wrote:
jord wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
he just has a die-if-they-vote-for-someone-else fanbase.
That he does.

He probably did rig this one, or if he didn't then he sure did a good job of messing up a legitimate victory.

When I say probably I mean I'd bet my family on it.
He didn't rig it - the posted totals for all election centres clearly add up to a Tsvangirai victory of 50.3%. The corruption has come in the form of him demanding a run-off, which should only occur if one runner has less than 50%.

Or perhaps threatening those voting for the opposition.

I do however agree that this is something that can't be fixed externally.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-06-06 08:39:09

#17

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6978

sergeriver wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.
Amen.
Following this line of thinking they should have let Europe solve their problems during WWII. It would have been Hitler v. Stalin, so we could say that most of Europe would probably be speaking Russian or German.

No external entity had any duty to anyone in Europe. None whatsoever. The fact that a strategic alliance was made amongst like-minded nations in opposition to an existential threat is a million miles away from internal strife in some random distant country.

2008-06-06 11:32:20

#18

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6989|England

Invasion is not a good idea. First the ME, the Africa. Where else must the West interfere with foreign regimes?

Revolution is the answer. Its created inside the country by people who dont want to starve to death and requires no outside help (other than perhaps throwing the first matches).
That, or wait for him to die of old age which might be longer than we want to wait.

2008-06-06 12:20:34

#19

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7180|Argentina

CameronPoe wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:

Amen.
Following this line of thinking they should have let Europe solve their problems during WWII. It would have been Hitler v. Stalin, so we could say that most of Europe would probably be speaking Russian or German.
No external entity had any duty to anyone in Europe. None whatsoever. The fact that a strategic alliance was made amongst like-minded nations in opposition to an existential threat is a million miles away from internal strife in some random distant country.

The US is in Europe?

2008-06-06 12:34:22

#20

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7044|London, England

Yes, but nobody will do it because there's nothing to gain, just like Burma. Also, there are quite a few goverments surrounding the country that seem to be cosy with Mugabe, same for Burma, so they won't do anything. The only people that can do something about this are the Zimbabwe people. You'd think seeing as it's an African country there would be something like over 9000 rebel groups fighting for something but the Military/Government seem to be in control pretty easily.

2008-06-06 13:24:52

#21

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6646|Escea

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nows the time for this guy ^

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2008-06-06 17:01:58

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6828|North Carolina

Invading Zimbabwe would be easier to justify than invading Iran, for sure.

2008-06-06 17:14:11

#23

fadedsteve: GOP Sympathizer; +266|6913|Menlo Park, CA

ATG wrote:
I think Africa should solve Africas problems.

Agreed

2008-06-06 17:51:01

#24

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7023|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:
Invading Zimbabwe would be easier to justify than invading Iran, for sure.

I thought it was all about oil. Which one has more oil?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-06-06 18:50:09

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6828|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Invading Zimbabwe would be easier to justify than invading Iran, for sure.
I thought it was all about oil. Which one has more oil?

Iraq is about oil. Invading Iran is just about Zionism. It's mostly the Zionists that are interested in invading Iran.

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