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ATG wrote:

NAME ME ONE THING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE RIGHT!!!! How can they be trusted with 1/5th of our economy on top of the maddening powers they have now?

Flecco wrote:

Amerixico. The new USA.

Lol, srs just get the government to build a 18ft concrete wall topped with razor wire along the border.

ATG wrote:

NAME ME ONE THING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE RIGHT!!!!

pierro wrote:

logitech487 wrote:

1.      $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.     
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2.      $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
  3.      $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
                             Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4.     $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
                             Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … ldt.0.html

5.      $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
                             Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … dt.01.html
  6.  $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
                             Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … dt.01.html
  7.  30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
                             Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … dt.01.html
   8.  $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
  9.  $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … dt.01.html
10.  The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens.  In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
                             Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … dt.01.html
11.  During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.  Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
                             Verify at: Homeland Security Report:  http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
  12.  The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of  between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
                             Verify at:  http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/ … tation.pdf
  13.  In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
                             Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ..'
                             Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. 
  Are we THAT stupid?

-Links 4, 8, 12, 14 don’t work
-Half your sources are Lou Dobbes (we know how reliable he is)

-Your own source (http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html) says that illegal aliens only cost us $10 billion a year (less than $35 each) or less than 1/40th of the interest we pay annualy on the national debt
-It also said that if amnesty was given...it would coust us $29 billion a year (less than $100 each) or less than 1/10th of annual superfluous medical "processing fees"

-So to answer your question: "No, we are not that stupid"

Also to all the secure the border freaks out there...over half of illegal immigrants don't illegally cross a border but overstay their VISA

*Calculations are done with the assumption that the US has a population of 300 000 000
Sources:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
http://www.canadians.org/publications/C … icare.html
http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml
http://www.federalbudget.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198298,00.html

pierro wrote:

GorillaKing798 wrote:

What are you saying? Immigrants are bad, but not really that bad? And regardless of how they are getting here they are still here illegally.

-The point about how they got there was addressing those that wanted to build a wall
-You are correct, I am saying they are bad but not that bad …the OP basically said it would destroy the country

GorillaKing798 wrote:

Providing them amnesty and health care will triple the amount of illegals coming in, so if you think it's not so bad now, you wait until these plans go into action...

-You are correct, it would triple the costs and above I quoted the study which said that providing amnesty would indeed triple the costs of providing for illegal immigrants meaning illegal immigration costs the average citizen less than $100 a year (that won’t destroy the country) which compared to the other factors I listed above (did I mention the Iraq war will cost me $5000) is pretty negligible and not a major issue

-Overall my problem with those talking about illegal immigration is that they think it will destroy our country…but even if you allow for amnesty that means illegal immigration will only cost us 0.2% of our GDP (29 billion/13.84 trillion)…I guarantee that far more then 1/500th of economic discussions touch on illegal immigration