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2008-06-08 19:42:45

Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

(This is a serious thread, I'd like to keep it serious)

When I argue for an extensively long time, it's because I know for a fact that I'm right.

So, if any of you are bored and want some entertainment, please, read through the following conversation, and please tell your opinion.

Even if your opinion is negative about me, please, share it.

(Warning: This story contains material that is stupid, meaningless, immature, involves Facebook, and probably is irrelevant to any body's interests.)

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=Story=
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(Info: Everybody in this story is 18 years of age.)

So, this whole thing started when I found out that a girl who I was about to be in a relationship (we'll call her Sue) with was drunk at a party. I mean, I called her, and could tell right away. Her friend then took the phone away, and told me that Sue was completely drunk. She also told me she was the only person at the party who had any alcohol. When I expressed my anger towards this (since I hate alcohol), the friend told me that Sue usually gets drunk all the time, and was drunk just the other night (at another guy's house).

Well, this pissed me off. I don't drink alcohol by choice. I wouldn't mind if my companion did, but if she is getting drunk all the time, I have a problem with that.

So, I thought later on, "Why do some people seem to need alcohol to have fun?" I also made this my status headline on Facebook.

I wake up the next morning, with this message:

Sue wrote:
i love how ur statis is totaly directed to me....and its not on a constant basis ok.....and im sry to tell u this but now nuthing is ever going to happen between us may be u should be an actual man and break out of the shelterd box

Ok. So I respond with:

Sue wrote:
I wouldn't want to be with anyone of such a pathetic stature anyway.

My first draft of this also had the sentance, "The only box you know how to break out of is a six-pack." I thought that was kinda mean, so I left it out.

Her response:

Sue wrote:
well maybe if u knew how to have fun once in a great while then maybe i would like you...but thats not going to happen anytime soon because u wouldn't know how to treat a girl but i found a guy that will treat me right. learn to have a real relationship and maybe you can get a girlfriend that will want to be with you.
k thanks bye

Wait, what?

I wrote:
First off, have you sobered up from all those drinks that you had last night?

I don't know how to have fun? Excuse me, but my idea of having "fun" isn't to get piss drunk every night. Did you have fun at this guy's house Friday? I think that's where you got drunk the night before you got drunk once again at Katie's party. Sorry if I'm capable of having fun without needing alcohol to loosen me up a bit.

I'll find a girl who isn't a drunkard like you obviously are.

k thanks bye

I also tagged on after that:

I wrote:
And what the hell does you getting drunk have to do with how I treat girls? And you're saying that in order for me to have a "real" relationship, alcohol has to be involved?

Excuse me for being an asshole who constantly feeds girls alcohol to get with them.
Oh, wait, I'm not.

And she responds with this crap:

Sue wrote:
im just saying that i don't get drunk every night and and u treat girls like they are a dirty flea infested dog and u are afraid of man handling them i'm sorry that i want a real man and not a boy and jesse doesn't feed me alcohol i'm the one that chose to drink and i didn't get drunk with him that night because i didn't want anything to happen...go have fun with urself cuse ur never going to find anyone like me and i suggest that u delete my phone number cuz i'm all grown and don't talk to babies anymore

And then she blocked me on Facebook. So i can't respond to that heap of crap she posted. So I got her AIM address and sent to her:

I wrote:
(My screen name) (9:58:34 PM): First off, way to block me
(My screen name) (9:58:39 PM): Real mature
(My screen name) (9:58:53 PM): Are you afraid what I'll say back might make you look bad?
(My screen name) (9:58:56 PM): Whatever
(My screen name) (9:58:58 PM): First off
(My screen name) (9:59:11 PM): Do you even know what man-handle means?
(My screen name) (9:59:37 PM): You're saying I should abuse woman?
(My screen name) (9:59:51 PM): Either you have a bad vocab, or you're just stupid
(My screen name) (9:59:59 PM): And I think it's a combination of both
(My screen name) (10:00:26 PM): And another thing
(My screen name) (10:00:44 PM): No matter how much you defend your drinking, you will always be wrong
(My screen name) (10:00:50 PM): Because you're underage
(My screen name) (10:01:03 PM): And nothing justifies underage drinking
(My screen name) (10:02:03 PM): And please, tell me how I treat woman
(My screen name) (10:03:02 PM): As for the grown up thing
(My screen name) (10:04:29 PM): "Grown up" people make wise decisions and d0nt typ lik 3 yr 0lds

And that's where things are right now.

People have been coming up to me and saying, "Bert, don't bother with her, she's stupid, you're right about the whole drinking thing. Just let it be that she's wrong and end it."

Bu I just hate it when I'm in an argument with an ignorant idiot who insists that they are right, when blatantly wrong.

/Story

If you read all this, thanks.

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Last edited by Bert10099 (2008-06-08 19:44:32)

2008-06-08 19:47:54

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6435|London, England

Wow, you liked that girl, she sounds like a complete moron in my opinion, Sorry for any offense if you still dig this girl. I'm like you, Alcohol is a dumb way to "have fun" and thank god my girlfriend thinks the same way. You did the right thing and I respect you for it.

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2008-06-08 19:50:18

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6794|New Haven, CT

How were you even attracted to such a stupid moron in the first place?

2008-06-08 19:52:07

Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

nukchebi0 wrote:
How were you even attracted to such a stupid moron in the first place?

I didn't know she did this. She didn't seem like someone to get drunk all the time.

I was wrong.

2008-06-08 19:53:15

VicktorVauhn: Member; +319|6862|Southern California

So this is highschool yeah? Highschool kids like to drink...its fun.

Your not really acomplishing much but making this chick think your a total loser. Your not gonna change her mind, and you were making her into some one she is not. Don't expect her to be responsible and make propper descitions, she is in highschool and just having fun...nothing wrong with that.

She is just a different kinda person then you, stop airing your insignificant drama on the internet and move along.

2008-06-08 19:58:58

Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

VicktorVauhn wrote:
So this is highschool yeah? Highschool kids like to drink...its fun.

Your not really acomplishing much but making this chick think your a total loser. Your not gonna change her mind, and you were making her into some one she is not. Don't expect her to be responsible and make propper descitions, she is in highschool and just having fun...nothing wrong with that.

She is just a different kinda person then you, stop airing your insignificant drama on the internet and move along.

We are out of high school. I'm enrolled in college, I don't know if she is.

We were never together. I never tried to change anything about her. She started the argument with me, and I argued back.

She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.

2008-06-08 20:01:57

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6626|Vancouver | Canada

Find someone else, unless you still think there's a chance.

Question though:
...Why on earth are you two having this argument on Facebook/AIM?
Just meet face to face.

..or am I just old fashioned?

2008-06-08 20:02:15

argo4: Stand and Deliver; +86|6403|United States

Bert10099 wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
So this is highschool yeah? Highschool kids like to drink...its fun.

Your not really acomplishing much but making this chick think your a total loser. Your not gonna change her mind, and you were making her into some one she is not. Don't expect her to be responsible and make propper descitions, she is in highschool and just having fun...nothing wrong with that.

She is just a different kinda person then you, stop airing your insignificant drama on the internet and move along.
We are out of high school. I'm enrolled in college, I don't know if she is.

We were never together. I never tried to change anything about her. She started the argument with me, and I argued back.

She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.

chill out, you sound like such a nerd...who gives a shit about what she's doing?

2008-06-08 20:03:15

Shaguart: Titties; +56|6839|Calgary, Canada

Bert10099 wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
So this is highschool yeah? Highschool kids like to drink...its fun.

Your not really acomplishing much but making this chick think your a total loser. Your not gonna change her mind, and you were making her into some one she is not. Don't expect her to be responsible and make propper descitions, she is in highschool and just having fun...nothing wrong with that.

She is just a different kinda person then you, stop airing your insignificant drama on the internet and move along.
We are out of high school. I'm enrolled in college, I don't know if she is.

We were never together. I never tried to change anything about her. She started the argument with me, and I argued back.

She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.

I see where your coming from but cry about it tbh.
Underage kids like to drink and have fun... what is wrong with that?
Im 15 and have been drunk a countless number of times, who cares it is fun to do and makes situations much more easy going and comfortable.

Who cares if it isn't justifiable? In the argument your really just making yourself look bad, beacuse she likes to have fun and your saying no you cant have fun like that. Deal with it, underage kids drink.

2008-06-08 20:03:21

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|7008|Long Island, New York

Bert10099 wrote:
She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.

So you're both 18 - out of high school - and you're trying to put her on a moral trip because she's drinking underage? You realize that in most places in the world it's 18 to drink? Yes, I realize, we're not in those places and you'll probably say "Well it's AGAINST THE LAW!".

Yeah well, so is speeding, but I bet you do that too whilst knowing it's against the law.

2008-06-08 20:03:48

Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

DefCon-17 wrote:
Find someone else, unless you still think there's a chance.

Question though:
...Why on earth are you two having this argument on Facebook/AIM?
Just meet face to face.

..or am I just old fashioned?

I tried initiating a little get-together.

She denied.

2008-06-08 20:05:35

Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

Shaguart wrote:
Bert10099 wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
So this is highschool yeah? Highschool kids like to drink...its fun.

Your not really acomplishing much but making this chick think your a total loser. Your not gonna change her mind, and you were making her into some one she is not. Don't expect her to be responsible and make propper descitions, she is in highschool and just having fun...nothing wrong with that.

She is just a different kinda person then you, stop airing your insignificant drama on the internet and move along.
We are out of high school. I'm enrolled in college, I don't know if she is.

We were never together. I never tried to change anything about her. She started the argument with me, and I argued back.

She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.
I see where your coming from but cry about it tbh.
Underage kids like to drink and have fun... what is wrong with that?
Im 15 and have been drunk a countless number of times, who cares it is fun to do and makes situations much more easy going and comfortable.

Who cares if it isn't justifiable? In the argument your really just making yourself look bad, beacuse she likes to have fun and your saying no you cant have fun like that. Deal with it, underage kids drink.

She wanted to be in a relationship with me, and I didn't want to date someone constantly getting drunk.

2008-06-08 20:07:25

Bert10099: []D [] []\/[] []D; +177|7211|United States

Poseidon wrote:
Bert10099 wrote:
She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.
So you're both 18 - out of high school - and you're trying to put her on a moral trip because she's drinking underage? You realize that in most places in the world it's 18 to drink? Yes, I realize, we're not in those places and you'll probably say "Well it's AGAINST THE LAW!".

Yeah well, so is speeding, but I bet you do that too whilst knowing it's against the law.

But at least I try not to speed. She get's drunk willingly all the time.

2008-06-08 20:08:04

Shaguart: Titties; +56|6839|Calgary, Canada

Bert10099 wrote:
Shaguart wrote:
Bert10099 wrote:

We are out of high school. I'm enrolled in college, I don't know if she is.

We were never together. I never tried to change anything about her. She started the argument with me, and I argued back.

She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.
I see where your coming from but cry about it tbh.
Underage kids like to drink and have fun... what is wrong with that?
Im 15 and have been drunk a countless number of times, who cares it is fun to do and makes situations much more easy going and comfortable.

Who cares if it isn't justifiable? In the argument your really just making yourself look bad, beacuse she likes to have fun and your saying no you cant have fun like that. Deal with it, underage kids drink.
She wanted to be in a relationship with me, and I didn't want to date someone constantly getting drunk.

Yeah i get that but dont put her down for it. If anythign dating a drunkard would get you more action, so you shudda stuck with it lol.

2008-06-08 20:08:14

VicktorVauhn: Member; +319|6862|Southern California

Bert10099 wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
So this is highschool yeah? Highschool kids like to drink...its fun.

Your not really acomplishing much but making this chick think your a total loser. Your not gonna change her mind, and you were making her into some one she is not. Don't expect her to be responsible and make propper descitions, she is in highschool and just having fun...nothing wrong with that.

She is just a different kinda person then you, stop airing your insignificant drama on the internet and move along.
We are out of high school. I'm enrolled in college, I don't know if she is.

We were never together. I never tried to change anything about her. She started the argument with me, and I argued back.

She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.

Cause the magic switch has not gone off yet?

There is no argument, your trying to tell her she shouldn't drink because its illegal, her and pretty much everyone else doesn't care.

Your just annoying some chick you liked because she didn't live up to your expectation. She doesn't care if you don't like that she drinks...and then you start posting comments aimed at her with out even having the balls to call her out directly... then when calls you on it you act all jealous

"Did you have fun at this guy's house Friday? I think that's where you got drunk the night before you got drunk once again at Katie's party."

Basicly you sound kinda pathetic. It happens, I have done it before too.... But just accept that this girl isn't the person for you and move on instead of getting mad at her because you were hoping she would be something else.

2008-06-08 20:09:51

Stimey: +786|6590|Ontario | Canada

If you want serious, D&ST.
If you aren't a fan of alcohol and she uses it recreational, don't bother.

2008-06-08 20:10:35

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|7008|Long Island, New York

Bert10099 wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Bert10099 wrote:
She was trying to defend her underage drinking. And to me, nothing justifies that.
So you're both 18 - out of high school - and you're trying to put her on a moral trip because she's drinking underage? You realize that in most places in the world it's 18 to drink? Yes, I realize, we're not in those places and you'll probably say "Well it's AGAINST THE LAW!".

Yeah well, so is speeding, but I bet you do that too whilst knowing it's against the law.
But at least I try not to speed. She get's drunk willingly all the time.

Obviously you didn't read what she said. She said that she doesn't get drunk every night and didn't get drunk because she didn't want anything to happen with that kid.

You talk like people who drink at parties are complete drunks who need to go to AA meetings 3 times a week.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-06-08 20:12:45)

2008-06-08 20:14:14

Home: Section.80; +447|7318|Seattle, Washington, USA

Bert10099 wrote:
So, this whole thing started when I found out that a girl who I was about to be in a relationship (we'll call her Sue) with was drunk at a party. I mean, I called her, and could tell right away. Her friend then took the phone away, and told me that Sue was completely drunk. She also told me she was the only person at the party who had any alcohol. When I expressed my anger towards this (since I hate alcohol), the friend told me that Sue usually gets drunk all the time, and was drunk just the other night (at another guy's house).

Well, this pissed me off. I don't drink alcohol by choice. I wouldn't mind if my companion did, but if she is getting drunk all the time, I have a problem with that.

This is where I think you are wrong. Someone you were going to be in a relationship with was drinking, which pissed you off? Maybe you should read that to yourself, it might help you realize how ridiculous that is. First off, you aren't even in a relationship with her yet so it's not your concern. Second, even if you were already in the relationship with her, she isn't your property. She can drink if she wants, she doesn't need you to be her parent and I'm sure she doesn't need you getting pissed at her because you don't enjoy alcohol. It's a matter of opinion, if you don't enjoy then don't drink but for other people it's not your choice to make.

But she did sound stupid and she did make an ass of herself.

So I'd say you're both wrong, but you started it.

2008-06-08 20:22:01

SealXo: Member; +309|7006

Get up get in and get out

2008-06-08 20:22:27

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7191|Sydney, Australia

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