Poll

You gonna stick to it?

Yes84%84% - 205
No15%15% - 39
Total: 244
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6957|Long Island, New York

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

This is not the military. All of us should not suffer from the actions of few. And especially this drastically.

All, and I mean ALL gaming sites that I go to have an off topic section. They would simply be boring if all they talked about were games. People would slowly leave trackr. We are a community. If we can't talk about things happening in our life and whatnot and current non-serious events in the world, it will simply be a boring site to go on
Says you, who has zero influence over the site. Chuy makes the rules, and so help me if you tards can't keep it together enough to let us have a less serious section I will hunt every one of you down.

In short, if you cannot contain yourself to very liberal limits of spam then leave, because the rest of us like the limits where they are.
And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.

You didn't even answer my post or respond to any segment of it, you basically just said "fuck off, you have no say, this is a dictatorship".

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-06-09 19:14:54)

FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6920|so randum

Poseidon wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

This is not the military. All of us should not suffer from the actions of few. And especially this drastically.

All, and I mean ALL gaming sites that I go to have an off topic section. They would simply be boring if all they talked about were games. People would slowly leave trackr. We are a community. If we can't talk about things happening in our life and whatnot and current non-serious events in the world, it will simply be a boring site to go on
Says you, who has zero influence over the site. Chuy makes the rules, and so help me if you tards can't keep it together enough to let us have a less serious section I will hunt every one of you down.

In short, if you cannot contain yourself to very liberal limits of spam then leave, because the rest of us like the limits where they are.
And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.

You didn't even answer my post or respond to any segment of it, you basically just said "fuck off, you have no say, this is a dictatorship".
Boys and Girls, this isn't the point of the thread, keep it OT - Or i'll just close it.
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Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
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FFLink13 wrote:

Damn right I'm up for this! We need that section...
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6381|Washington DC
We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
TrashBlinD
french canadians suck
+135|7062|can

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
Agreeeeed.
sexecuti0ner
What kinda guy are you are?
+148|6652

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
Oh god I agree.  Or just give them a sub-forum so others don't have to see it.  I don't really care, as long as I don't have to look at it anymore.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6920|so randum

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
But what would bennisboy and 1927 get to do?!?

Anywho, OT!
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6957|Long Island, New York

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
YES!
i g
Banned
+876|6284|GA

Poseidon wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

This is not the military. All of us should not suffer from the actions of few. And especially this drastically.

All, and I mean ALL gaming sites that I go to have an off topic section. They would simply be boring if all they talked about were games. People would slowly leave trackr. We are a community. If we can't talk about things happening in our life and whatnot and current non-serious events in the world, it will simply be a boring site to go on
Says you, who has zero influence over the site. Chuy makes the rules, and so help me if you tards can't keep it together enough to let us have a less serious section I will hunt every one of you down.

In short, if you cannot contain yourself to very liberal limits of spam then leave, because the rest of us like the limits where they are.
And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.

You didn't even answer my post or respond to any segment of it, you basically just said "fuck off, you have no say, this is a dictatorship".
he doesn't mean it like "fuck off." it is a dictatorship; what chuy says goes...
the mods aren't out to get us. seriously man, i should be permed from here, but the mods took the time to get it through my thick skull. what chuy says goes, and that's all there is to it.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6939|Adelaide, South Australia

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
My sentiments exactly.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6888

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
Yep, get derailed way to easy.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6957|Long Island, New York

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


Says you, who has zero influence over the site. Chuy makes the rules, and so help me if you tards can't keep it together enough to let us have a less serious section I will hunt every one of you down.

In short, if you cannot contain yourself to very liberal limits of spam then leave, because the rest of us like the limits where they are.
And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.

You didn't even answer my post or respond to any segment of it, you basically just said "fuck off, you have no say, this is a dictatorship".
he doesn't mean it like "fuck off." it is a dictatorship; what chuy says goes...
the mods aren't out to get us. seriously man, i should be permed from here, but the mods took the time to get it through my thick skull. what chuy says goes, and that's all there is to it.
No, it's not a dictatorship. Maybe a constitutional monarchy, perhaps. :S

If we had no say (which we do...hence the feature requests section) then this site would suck.

I didn't say the mods were out to get us either. I'm very fond with almost every one of the mods, including FM.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6888

Poseidon wrote:

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.

You didn't even answer my post or respond to any segment of it, you basically just said "fuck off, you have no say, this is a dictatorship".
he doesn't mean it like "fuck off." it is a dictatorship; what chuy says goes...
the mods aren't out to get us. seriously man, i should be permed from here, but the mods took the time to get it through my thick skull. what chuy says goes, and that's all there is to it.
No, it's not a dictatorship. Maybe a constitutional monarchy, perhaps. :S

If we had no say (which we do...hence the feature requests section) then this site would suck.

I didn't say the mods were out to get us either. I'm very fond with almost every one of the mods, including FM.
I disagree, BF2s/Trackr is a dictatorship but Jeff is a benevolent ruler. Yeah what he and the mods say is the law but we are allowed to disagree and when they do stuff it is most often because they are trying to help. Now that is not to say that they don't make wrong decisions, but when they do make them you are allowed to voice your concerns and debate what happened.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6381|Washington DC

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
Yep, get derailed way to easy.
That's not it, it's just that they're fucking gay. It's usually something like "Bawwww I can only get girls to be my fuckbuddies." I'm nearly 17, a virgin, never had a real kiss and you don't hear me bitching about it.
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6385|London, England

HurricaИe wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

We should impose a ban on girl help threads if we get a general discussion forum on trackr.
Yep, get derailed way to easy.
That's not it, it's just that they're fucking gay. It's usually something like "Bawwww I can only get girls to be my fuckbuddies." I'm nearly 17, a virgin, never had a real kiss and you don't hear me bitching about it.
I love you hurri
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6381|Washington DC

Mutantsteak wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:


Yep, get derailed way to easy.
That's not it, it's just that they're fucking gay. It's usually something like "Bawwww I can only get girls to be my fuckbuddies." I'm nearly 17, a virgin, never had a real kiss and you don't hear me bitching about it.
I love you hurri
<3 you too man

I still think we should have a General Discussion forum, it just needs to be moderated in a better fashion than it is right now. See my thread on trackr (lolz @ non-trackr users) in the suggestions forum if you wanna know what I mean...
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7127|67.222.138.85

Poseidon wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

This is not the military. All of us should not suffer from the actions of few. And especially this drastically.

All, and I mean ALL gaming sites that I go to have an off topic section. They would simply be boring if all they talked about were games. People would slowly leave trackr. We are a community. If we can't talk about things happening in our life and whatnot and current non-serious events in the world, it will simply be a boring site to go on
Says you, who has zero influence over the site. Chuy makes the rules, and so help me if you tards can't keep it together enough to let us have a less serious section I will hunt every one of you down.

In short, if you cannot contain yourself to very liberal limits of spam then leave, because the rest of us like the limits where they are.
And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.
\_/

There. I did it. I absolutely could not care less what a single one of you thinks of me at this point, because of the point so many of you have driven to. You are killing my BF2S. I love this site, I throughly enjoy the information, the laughs, and the wonderful time wasting ability it has, and you guys are taking that away from me. It's not fair, but there isn't very much I as an individual can do about it anymore, so instead I'll whine to you about how unfair it is.

The rules are very simple. Apart from some technical ones about sigs and such, you don't post crap, you play nice, and you're fine. It's really not that hard, but still I (and the rest of the wonderful administrative team) have to tell people things that should be common sense. I don't enjoy telling people they're doing something wrong, or arguing with them about why they got a warning for this or that, or why they didn't deserve their third temp ban, whatever. It's not fun, I don't go whack off to their dismay afterwards. Yet still I like to think that it's worth it, because in the end the site benefits, more people enjoy being here, and it is a place I can call home on the internet for a longer period of time.

"What's this, we might not have a valued section in trackr if people don't grow up a little bit?" I say to myself, "Well, surely if we crack down a little more and drop lots and lots and lots of hints, they'll get the idea and be reasonable about it! BF2S is great that way!"

Well apparently not. You think you can argue it, you think that you have vastly superior logic that will overwrite all the past mis-deeds, you think your rhetoric will win the day. (because it has always worked before here ) Here's a novel idea: The best thing you can do right now to ensure your valued section is to cut spam and listen when people (moderator or not) tell you to stop - arguing will do nothing but make things worse.

This is not your community, this is chuy's community. Many of us are quite happy with that, and are just fine following his rules. Now the rest of you are trying to take the direction of the site into your own hands just because you think you own it or something just because you've been here for a few years, and you're taking it in a direction the real owner doesn't want it to go. Well, guess who is going to win that tug-o-war.

I think this is the first time I can remember actually being mad at this site. I've been appalled, disgusted, etc. at some things most of you don't know about it, but this time I'm actually angry because we're asking for so little and there is so much at stake for a wonderful place for me to go for the past two years, and that's just too much for some of you. It's not like we gave you an inch and you're taking a mile...we gave you 9/10ths of a mile and you just won't settle until you get everything you want.

and ig is right

edit: you are so wrong about this site. So, so wrong. It is a complete dictatorship. Feature Requests is a creative brainstorming ground, just because something is posted there does not mean it will happen. Mods do not have any sort of definitive say in it either.

You know what? That's not so bad. chuy (in my opinion) has a very good social sense, and has successfully directed this site that was originally based only around BF2 stats to a successful community. Of course the members are a big part of that success, but without not only the web dev foundation he has provided, but also the social outline he gives has taken us this far. Trust him to take us the rest of the way to trackr eh?

edit2: Docta is right, he is benevolent ruler. A dictator can take advice from whoever he wants, he just doesn't have to. Same with chuy. He doesn't have to listen to any of us, but he does because he's awsm like that. Just because we end up getting our ideas implemented does not mean we had the power to have them implemented.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6957|Long Island, New York

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:


he doesn't mean it like "fuck off." it is a dictatorship; what chuy says goes...
the mods aren't out to get us. seriously man, i should be permed from here, but the mods took the time to get it through my thick skull. what chuy says goes, and that's all there is to it.
No, it's not a dictatorship. Maybe a constitutional monarchy, perhaps. :S

If we had no say (which we do...hence the feature requests section) then this site would suck.

I didn't say the mods were out to get us either. I'm very fond with almost every one of the mods, including FM.
I disagree, BF2s/Trackr is a dictatorship but Jeff is a benevolent ruler. Yeah what he and the mods say is the law but we are allowed to disagree and when they do stuff it is most often because they are trying to help. Now that is not to say that they don't make wrong decisions, but when they do make them you are allowed to voice your concerns and debate what happened.
A dictatorship would be one where the ruler makes all the rules and takes no objections or comments from his disciples and followers. This isn't so. Jeff takes reccomendations ALL THE TIME from people.
i g
Banned
+876|6284|GA

HurricaИe wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


That's not it, it's just that they're fucking gay. It's usually something like "Bawwww I can only get girls to be my fuckbuddies." I'm nearly 17, a virgin, never had a real kiss and you don't hear me bitching about it.
I love you hurri
<3 you too man

I still think we should have a General Discussion forum, it just needs to be moderated in a better fashion than it is right now. See my thread on trackr (lolz @ non-trackr users) in the suggestions forum if you wanna know what I mean...
i see nothing wrong with the way it is being moderated right now. you have to be kidding??
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6957|Long Island, New York

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


Says you, who has zero influence over the site. Chuy makes the rules, and so help me if you tards can't keep it together enough to let us have a less serious section I will hunt every one of you down.

In short, if you cannot contain yourself to very liberal limits of spam then leave, because the rest of us like the limits where they are.
And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.
\_/

There. I did it. I absolutely could not care less what a single one of you thinks of me at this point, because of the point so many of you have driven to. You are killing my BF2S. I love this site, I throughly enjoy the information, the laughs, and the wonderful time wasting ability it has, and you guys are taking that away from me. It's not fair, but there isn't very much I as an individual can do about it anymore, so instead I'll whine to you about how unfair it is.

The rules are very simple. Apart from some technical ones about sigs and such, you don't post crap, you play nice, and you're fine. It's really not that hard, but still I (and the rest of the wonderful administrative team) have to tell people things that should be common sense. I don't enjoy telling people they're doing something wrong, or arguing with them about why they got a warning for this or that, or why they didn't deserve their third temp ban, whatever. It's not fun, I don't go whack off to their dismay afterwards. Yet still I like to think that it's worth it, because in the end the site benefits, more people enjoy being here, and it is a place I can call home on the internet for a longer period of time.

"What's this, we might not have a valued section in trackr if people don't grow up a little bit?" I say to myself, "Well, surely if we crack down a little more and drop lots and lots and lots of hints, they'll get the idea and be reasonable about it! BF2S is great that way!"

Well apparently not. You think you can argue it, you think that you have vastly superior logic that will overwrite all the past mis-deeds, you think your rhetoric will win the day. (because it has always worked before here ) Here's a novel idea: The best thing you can do right now to ensure your valued section is to cut spam and listen when people (moderator or not) tell you to stop - arguing will do nothing but make things worse.

This is not your community, this is chuy's community. Many of us are quite happy with that, and are just fine following his rules. Now the rest of you are trying to take the direction of the site into your own hands just because you think you own it or something just because you've been here for a few years, and you're taking it in a direction the real owner doesn't want it to go. Well, guess who is going to win that tug-o-war.

I think this is the first time I can remember actually being mad at this site. I've been appalled, disgusted, etc. at some things most of you don't know about it, but this time I'm actually angry because we're asking for so little and there is so much at stake for a wonderful place for me to go for the past two years, and that's just too much for some of you. It's not like we gave you an inch and you're taking a mile...we gave you 9/10ths of a mile and you just won't settle until you get everything you want.

and ig is right
You're talking to me like I'm some big time spammer...I'm actually one of the people that's a major contributor to this forum and DOESN'T spam.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7263|Alberta, Canada

HurricaИe wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


That's not it, it's just that they're fucking gay. It's usually something like "Bawwww I can only get girls to be my fuckbuddies." I'm nearly 17, a virgin, never had a real kiss and you don't hear me bitching about it.
I love you hurri
<3 you too man

I still think we should have a General Discussion forum, it just needs to be moderated in a better fashion than it is right now. See my thread on trackr (lolz @ non-trackr users) in the suggestions forum if you wanna know what I mean...
We should have separate moderators for separate sections perhaps?
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6385|London, England

Poseidon wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


And you wonder why people spam or break the rules? It's that condescending attitude right there when I posted a very logical and sensible opinion that makes people have lower opinions of the mods and not respect their authority.
\_/

There. I did it. I absolutely could not care less what a single one of you thinks of me at this point, because of the point so many of you have driven to. You are killing my BF2S. I love this site, I throughly enjoy the information, the laughs, and the wonderful time wasting ability it has, and you guys are taking that away from me. It's not fair, but there isn't very much I as an individual can do about it anymore, so instead I'll whine to you about how unfair it is.

The rules are very simple. Apart from some technical ones about sigs and such, you don't post crap, you play nice, and you're fine. It's really not that hard, but still I (and the rest of the wonderful administrative team) have to tell people things that should be common sense. I don't enjoy telling people they're doing something wrong, or arguing with them about why they got a warning for this or that, or why they didn't deserve their third temp ban, whatever. It's not fun, I don't go whack off to their dismay afterwards. Yet still I like to think that it's worth it, because in the end the site benefits, more people enjoy being here, and it is a place I can call home on the internet for a longer period of time.

"What's this, we might not have a valued section in trackr if people don't grow up a little bit?" I say to myself, "Well, surely if we crack down a little more and drop lots and lots and lots of hints, they'll get the idea and be reasonable about it! BF2S is great that way!"

Well apparently not. You think you can argue it, you think that you have vastly superior logic that will overwrite all the past mis-deeds, you think your rhetoric will win the day. (because it has always worked before here ) Here's a novel idea: The best thing you can do right now to ensure your valued section is to cut spam and listen when people (moderator or not) tell you to stop - arguing will do nothing but make things worse.

This is not your community, this is chuy's community. Many of us are quite happy with that, and are just fine following his rules. Now the rest of you are trying to take the direction of the site into your own hands just because you think you own it or something just because you've been here for a few years, and you're taking it in a direction the real owner doesn't want it to go. Well, guess who is going to win that tug-o-war.

I think this is the first time I can remember actually being mad at this site. I've been appalled, disgusted, etc. at some things most of you don't know about it, but this time I'm actually angry because we're asking for so little and there is so much at stake for a wonderful place for me to go for the past two years, and that's just too much for some of you. It's not like we gave you an inch and you're taking a mile...we gave you 9/10ths of a mile and you just won't settle until you get everything you want.

and ig is right
You're talking to me like I'm some big time spammer...I'm actually one of the people that's a major contributor to this forum and DOESN'T spam.
That isn't necessarily directed toward you Poseidon, More like a general message that sums up his ideas about the Spam deal, you just happen to be a main arguer
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mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7074

Null; I don't spam to begin with... or at least I didn't think I was (have gotten 1 or 2 warnings for it though).

But I think it would be nice if the spam were cut down considerably. Who knows how many new visitors we'll expect at trackr. Besides, it's a new site, moving on from bf2s. Leave the bad things behind and keep the good things coming.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6920|so randum
Guys, cool it.

I want more of this:

HurricaИe wrote:

As those of you on trackr have seen I'm game for this.
And less of the fucking arguing.

Got a problem with someone, take it to PM.

I'll very happily delete this thread.
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Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6385|London, England

FatherTed wrote:

Guys, cool it.

I want more of this:

HurricaИe wrote:

As those of you on trackr have seen I'm game for this.
And less of the fucking arguing.

Got a problem with someone, take it to PM.

I'll very happily delete this thread.
I'd love the section, but everything has been said already. It needs to be responsible and well monitored, it needs to be labeled just like D&ST "If you can't keep a level head, this isn't the section for you"
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