They are being critics of each other using history. In essence they are saying lets not recreate our mistakes... pretty much the exact opposite of what you are suggesting.TheAussieReaper wrote:
But I suppose if both parties are looking at history there isn't going to be any progress either side.
Well, I was addressing the McCain part, I don't think Obama is right. McCain wouldn't have Cheney.FEOS wrote:
And I suppose the same logic applies to Obama's claim?sergeriver wrote:
If McCain said that, it must be true.
Carter made it policy of the United States to use force in the Middle East to go after oil. Let's give the man another Peace Prize.The Carter Doctrine was a policy proclaimed by President of the United States Jimmy Carter in his State of the Union Address on 23 January 1980, which stated that the United States would use military force if necessary to defend its national interests in the Persian Gulf region. The doctrine was a response to the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, and was intended to deter the Soviet Union—the Cold War adversary of the United States—from seeking hegemony in the Persian Gulf. After stating that Soviet troops in Afghanistan posed "a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East oil," Carter proclaimed:
Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force
Can we please have some more Windfall taxes against our domestic Oil producers, with our higher taxes to please? Oh wait Im in the wrong threadKmarion wrote:
Time for a history lesson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_DoctrineCarter made it policy of the United States to use force in the Middle East to go after oil. Let's give the man another Peace Prize.The Carter Doctrine was a policy proclaimed by President of the United States Jimmy Carter in his State of the Union Address on 23 January 1980, which stated that the United States would use military force if necessary to defend its national interests in the Persian Gulf region. The doctrine was a response to the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, and was intended to deter the Soviet Union—the Cold War adversary of the United States—from seeking hegemony in the Persian Gulf. After stating that Soviet troops in Afghanistan posed "a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East oil," Carter proclaimed:
Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force
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You really must stop it with the factyness. It gets in the way of others' hyperbole.Kmarion wrote:
Time for a history lesson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_DoctrineCarter made it policy of the United States to use force in the Middle East to go after oil. Let's give the man another Peace Prize.The Carter Doctrine was a policy proclaimed by President of the United States Jimmy Carter in his State of the Union Address on 23 January 1980, which stated that the United States would use military force if necessary to defend its national interests in the Persian Gulf region. The doctrine was a response to the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, and was intended to deter the Soviet Union—the Cold War adversary of the United States—from seeking hegemony in the Persian Gulf. After stating that Soviet troops in Afghanistan posed "a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East oil," Carter proclaimed:
Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force
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I don't get it... Who ever said that Carter was an angel? We know all that, so what is this a response to?Kmarion wrote:
Time for a history lesson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_DoctrineCarter made it policy of the United States to use force in the Middle East to go after oil. Let's give the man another Peace Prize.The Carter Doctrine was a policy proclaimed by President of the United States Jimmy Carter in his State of the Union Address on 23 January 1980, which stated that the United States would use military force if necessary to defend its national interests in the Persian Gulf region. The doctrine was a response to the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, and was intended to deter the Soviet Union—the Cold War adversary of the United States—from seeking hegemony in the Persian Gulf. After stating that Soviet troops in Afghanistan posed "a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East oil," Carter proclaimed:
Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force
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More than you think. Since we are talking about Carter I thought I would throw in something we rarely talk about here.oug wrote:
Fuck that, who in the right mind believes that there's a difference in foreign policies between reps and dems?