loubot
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I am planning to build a new computer on an Intel extreme C2D/Q4 platform. Off-hand, can any one recommend a solid performing mobo?
The memory I plan to use is DDR-3 PC(1600 or faster), X48 chipset, RAID-0+1. Don't mind spending $300.00 on a mobo.

I plan to use C2D-E8500 or  C2E-QX6850 processors.

Currently in researching stage but like to narrow down my choices. I don't have a time frame so if something is coming out by the end of the year I can wait. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Last edited by loubot (2008-06-11 05:57:23)

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813121338

looks decent to me, although X48 chipsets are overrated.
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loubot
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haffeysucks wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121338

looks decent to me, although X48 chipsets are overrated.
compared to Nvidia's 790i chipset?
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haffeysucks wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121338

looks decent to me, although X48 chipsets are overrated.
No. Don't get an Intel mobo. Their BIOS makes one cry blood.
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loubot wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121338

looks decent to me, although X48 chipsets are overrated.
compared to Nvidia's 790i chipset?
Intel chipsets will give you Crossfire support, while nVidia chipsets will give you SLI support.  Decide beforehand which you want.

I think both the 790i and the X48 chipsets are overrated because they're simply the 780i and X38 with DDR3 support.  Btw, DDR3 is expensive and benchies have shown they aren't that much better than their DDR2 brethren.  And their timings suck.

X48/790i - evolutionary, not revolutionary.
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Oh yah, I do want the BIOS function properly and prefer manual settings over auto.  I get an aneurysm (not rlly) when the BIOS are crappy.
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Why an E8500?  The 8400 is near enough as quick n gives you quite a saving.  And as said I wouldnt bother with DDR3, the latencies are still rubbish.  I'd go with an Asus P5E X38, DDR2 and E8400.  On stock settings it be 99% the performance for less.  Then overclocking comes into it.

Martyn
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Bell wrote:

Why an E8500?  The 8400 is near enough as quick n gives you quite a saving.  And as said I wouldnt bother with DDR3, the latencies are still rubbish.  I'd go with an Asus P5E X38, DDR2 and E8400.  On stock settings it be 99% the performance for less.  Then overclocking comes into it.

Martyn
In a couple of reviews the E8500 processor was the top processor for gaming and in some cases performed better than the quad processors, though I haven't considered the E8400. I will have to compare the two...thxs.
.Sup
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loubot wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121338

looks decent to me, although X48 chipsets are overrated.
compared to Nvidia's 790i chipset?
Compared to X38.
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loubot wrote:

Bell wrote:

Why an E8500?  The 8400 is near enough as quick n gives you quite a saving.  And as said I wouldnt bother with DDR3, the latencies are still rubbish.  I'd go with an Asus P5E X38, DDR2 and E8400.  On stock settings it be 99% the performance for less.  Then overclocking comes into it.

Martyn
In a couple of reviews the E8500 processor was the top processor for gaming and in some cases performed better than the quad processors, though I haven't considered the E8400. I will have to compare the two...thxs.
An E8500 is an E8400 with a higher multiplier (x9 vs x.9.5) Same cache, just 166MHz difference in clock speed. Which can be overclocked easily. Where ever you read those reviews, it must have been an e-tailer or business of somesort because there is an $80 price difference. The .5 mulitplier difference doesn't matter much as the E8400 can easily hit 4Ghz, without hitting the FSB wall. $80 is not worth it in this case imo.
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The_Sniper_NM wrote:

loubot wrote:

Bell wrote:

Why an E8500?  The 8400 is near enough as quick n gives you quite a saving.  And as said I wouldnt bother with DDR3, the latencies are still rubbish.  I'd go with an Asus P5E X38, DDR2 and E8400.  On stock settings it be 99% the performance for less.  Then overclocking comes into it.

Martyn
In a couple of reviews the E8500 processor was the top processor for gaming and in some cases performed better than the quad processors, though I haven't considered the E8400. I will have to compare the two...thxs.
An E8500 is an E8400 with a higher multiplier (x9 vs x.9.5) Same cache, just 166MHz difference in clock speed. Which can be overclocked easily. Where ever you read those reviews, it must have been an e-tailer or business of somesort because there is an $80 price difference. The .5 mulitplier difference doesn't matter much as the E8400 can easily hit 4Ghz, without hitting the FSB wall. $80 is not worth it in this case imo.
I been going to LegitReview, PCStats, and a grain of salt from TomsHardware. Glad to know this info ...I am not up to all of the Intel CPU specs.

Last edited by loubot (2008-06-11 09:26:55)

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02fxnmaurer wrote:

xfx 790i

haffeysucks wrote:

the 790i and the X48 chipsets are overrated because they're simply the 780i and X38 with DDR3 support.  Btw, DDR3 is expensive and benchies have shown they aren't that much better than their DDR2 brethren.  And their timings suck.

X48/790i - evolutionary, not revolutionary.
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.Sup
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haffeysucks wrote:

02fxnmaurer wrote:

xfx 790i

haffeysucks wrote:

the 790i and the X48 chipsets are overrated because they're simply the 780i and X38 with DDR3 support.  Btw, DDR3 is expensive and benchies have shown they aren't that much better than their DDR2 brethren.  And their timings suck.

X48/790i - evolutionary, not revolutionary.
Not all X48 mobos are DDR3. In fact most are still DDR2 (Rampage Formula).

Oh and regarding DDR3 timings: they do look sucky but they aren't. If their timings would be lower on such a high memory speed the RAM itself will be very unstable.

Last edited by .Sup (2008-06-11 09:51:34)

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.Sup wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

02fxnmaurer wrote:

xfx 790i

haffeysucks wrote:

the 790i and the X48 chipsets are overrated because they're simply the 780i and X38 with DDR3 support.  Btw, DDR3 is expensive and benchies have shown they aren't that much better than their DDR2 brethren.  And their timings suck.

X48/790i - evolutionary, not revolutionary.
Not all X48 mobos are DDR3. In fact most are still DDR2 (Rampage Formula).

Oh and regarding DDR3 timings: they do look sucky but they aren't. If their timings would be lower on such a high memory speed the RAM itself will be very unstable.
Well, not all.  But the point still stands - X48 is really X38 with a number changed.
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loubot
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haffeysucks wrote:

.Sup wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

02fxnmaurer wrote:

xfx 790i
Not all X48 mobos are DDR3. In fact most are still DDR2 (Rampage Formula).

Oh and regarding DDR3 timings: they do look sucky but they aren't. If their timings would be lower on such a high memory speed the RAM itself will be very unstable.
Well, not all.  But the point still stands - X48 is really X38 with a number changed.
True they both are similar and no reason to upgrade from a X38 mobo; the only difference between the two is X46 support DDR3-1600, plus the 1.8v. The DDR2 and DDR3 speed issue is the same when DDR2 came out; initially DDR2 wasn't much faster than standard DDR....give it some time. I am still playing games on my AMD mobo (socket 939)
.Sup
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Try Crysis loubot.
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haffeysucks wrote:

02fxnmaurer wrote:

xfx 790i

haffeysucks wrote:

the 790i and the X48 chipsets are overrated because they're simply the 780i and X38 with DDR3 support.  Btw, DDR3 is expensive and benchies have shown they aren't that much better than their DDR2 brethren.  And their timings suck.

X48/790i - evolutionary, not revolutionary.
ddr3 -----> 790i ftw

https://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s160/44tylan/13-188-025-02.jpg

Last edited by 02fxnmaurer (2008-06-11 14:44:44)

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listen bro, go xfx 790i mobo on newegg....its ddr3 and very reliable...the evga 790i's aren't doing so well.

Plus, dont go c2e...thats a HUGE waste of money, I MEAN HUGE! go with a qx9650, its quad, hence you will love the OC'n ability and the multiplier is unlocked...

if not, go with the q9650 this Q3 or the start of July, its the same as the qx9650, but with locked multiplier...so if you can save yourself 500 dollars, do it.

xfx 790i mobo - $350
qx9650 - $1030
q9650 - $ 530
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loubot wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Not all X48 mobos are DDR3. In fact most are still DDR2 (Rampage Formula).

Oh and regarding DDR3 timings: they do look sucky but they aren't. If their timings would be lower on such a high memory speed the RAM itself will be very unstable.
Well, not all.  But the point still stands - X48 is really X38 with a number changed.
True they both are similar and no reason to upgrade from a X38 mobo; the only difference between the two is X46 support DDR3-1600, plus the 1.8v. The DDR2 and DDR3 speed issue is the same when DDR2 came out; initially DDR2 wasn't much faster than standard DDR....give it some time. I am still playing games on my AMD mobo (socket 939)
Yep, give it some time is right.  I wouldn't buy now if you really want a DDR3 motherboard.

I hope that socket 939 mobo supports DDR2, because I think that was really the only thing holding my now-old system back.  Socket 939 really isn't that bad.

02fxnmaurer wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

02fxnmaurer wrote:

xfx 790i

haffeysucks wrote:

the 790i and the X48 chipsets are overrated because they're simply the 780i and X38 with DDR3 support.  Btw, DDR3 is expensive and benchies have shown they aren't that much better than their DDR2 brethren.  And their timings suck.

X48/790i - evolutionary, not revolutionary.
ddr3 -----> 790i ftw

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s160 … 025-02.jpg
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G-NOT_(:0) wrote:

listen bro, go xfx 790i mobo on newegg....its ddr3 and very reliable...the evga 790i's aren't doing so well.

Plus, dont go c2e...thats a HUGE waste of money, I MEAN HUGE! go with a qx9650, its quad, hence you will love the OC'n ability and the multiplier is unlocked...

if not, go with the q9650 this Q3 or the start of July, its the same as the qx9650, but with locked multiplier...so if you can save yourself 500 dollars, do it.

xfx 790i mobo - $350
qx9650 - $1030
q9650 - $ 530
XFX and eVGA are both fine.

But I agree with the Extreme part.  Extreme CPUs are always a waste of money imo.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-06-11 14:55:31)

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G-NOT_(:0) wrote:

listen bro, go xfx 790i mobo on newegg....its ddr3 and very reliable...the evga 790i's aren't doing so well.

Plus, dont go c2e...thats a HUGE waste of money, I MEAN HUGE! go with a qx9650, its quad, hence you will love the OC'n ability and the multiplier is unlocked...

if not, go with the q9650 this Q3 or the start of July, its the same as the qx9650, but with locked multiplier...so if you can save yourself 500 dollars, do it.

xfx 790i mobo - $350
qx9650 - $1030
q9650 - $ 530
no ......q9650...just no ..... over priced an frankly its shit bang for ur buck ....go for the q9450, just as good for gaming. If u wanna piss ur money down the drain then yes go extreme otherwise....save ur dosh an buy a good case or something along those lines
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02fxnmaurer wrote:

G-NOT_(:0) wrote:

listen bro, go xfx 790i mobo on newegg....its ddr3 and very reliable...the evga 790i's aren't doing so well.

Plus, dont go c2e...thats a HUGE waste of money, I MEAN HUGE! go with a qx9650, its quad, hence you will love the OC'n ability and the multiplier is unlocked...

if not, go with the q9650 this Q3 or the start of July, its the same as the qx9650, but with locked multiplier...so if you can save yourself 500 dollars, do it.

xfx 790i mobo - $350
qx9650 - $1030
q9650 - $ 530
no ......q9650...just no ..... over priced an frankly its shit bang for ur buck ....go for the q9450, just as good for gaming. If u wanna piss ur money down the drain then yes go extreme otherwise....save ur dosh an buy a good case or something along those lines
Yeah, no point paying 530 for a CPU when Nehalems are coming out...
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Gooners wrote:

02fxnmaurer wrote:

G-NOT_(:0) wrote:

listen bro, go xfx 790i mobo on newegg....its ddr3 and very reliable...the evga 790i's aren't doing so well.

Plus, dont go c2e...thats a HUGE waste of money, I MEAN HUGE! go with a qx9650, its quad, hence you will love the OC'n ability and the multiplier is unlocked...

if not, go with the q9650 this Q3 or the start of July, its the same as the qx9650, but with locked multiplier...so if you can save yourself 500 dollars, do it.

xfx 790i mobo - $350
qx9650 - $1030
q9650 - $ 530
no ......q9650...just no ..... over priced an frankly its shit bang for ur buck ....go for the q9450, just as good for gaming. If u wanna piss ur money down the drain then yes go extreme otherwise....save ur dosh an buy a good case or something along those lines
Yeah, no point paying 530 for a CPU when Nehalems are coming out...
there's no point in posting if you don't know what the hell you're talking about...

refer to the two above, not you Gooners.
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no i know exactli what im on bout tbh .......i merely remarked tht the q9650 is a complete rip off
go for the 790i with a q9450...

or dont bother frankly....wait for nehalem in q4 this year,
haffey, the fact that gooners agreed with what i stated, clearli makes your comments worthless so stfu

Last edited by 02fxnmaurer (2008-06-11 15:20:51)

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02fxnmaurer wrote:

no i know exactli what im on bout tbh .......i merely remarked tht the q9650 is a complete rip off
go for the 790i with a q9450...

or dont bother frankly....wait for nehalem in q4 this year,
haffey, the fact that gooners agreed with what i stated, clearli makes your comments worthless so stfu
okidokey i will shut up because i dont know what im saying

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-06-11 15:24:10)

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