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You gonna stick to it?

Yes84%84% - 205
No15%15% - 39
Total: 244
2008-06-11 20:06:00
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6889

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

If anyone would like to start making a definition of spam I would be happy to hear any ideas. As people have said it is a very vague word, and we just go by instinct. It's not exactly fair to users you're right, but it's the only efficient way of doing it and the results are usually pretty good I think.
I volunteer to do so. It will be long, and through and cover everything I described in my post. If the mods (and by mods I mean you FM) approve it i'll have it posted tomorrow.

FM I'll PM it to you when I'm done with it. okay?
2008-06-11 20:18:50
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7127|67.222.138.85

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

If anyone would like to start making a definition of spam I would be happy to hear any ideas. As people have said it is a very vague word, and we just go by instinct. It's not exactly fair to users you're right, but it's the only efficient way of doing it and the results are usually pretty good I think.
I volunteer to do so. It will be long, and through and cover everything I described in my post. If the mods (and by mods I mean you FM) approve it i'll have it posted tomorrow.

FM I'll PM it to you when I'm done with it. okay?
Fine by me, just know in no way do I have the final say, and this is just brainstorming.

Remember though, the longer it is, the less likely people will actually read it.
2008-06-11 20:23:58
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6889

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

If anyone would like to start making a definition of spam I would be happy to hear any ideas. As people have said it is a very vague word, and we just go by instinct. It's not exactly fair to users you're right, but it's the only efficient way of doing it and the results are usually pretty good I think.
I volunteer to do so. It will be long, and through and cover everything I described in my post. If the mods (and by mods I mean you FM) approve it i'll have it posted tomorrow.

FM I'll PM it to you when I'm done with it. okay?
Fine by me, just know in no way do I have the final say, and this is just brainstorming.

Remember though, the longer it is, the less likely people will actually read it.
Okay, I won't make it to long. But it does need to cover allot of stuff.

If you feel that you shouldn't get the final say on it, that other mods should look at it also that's find by me, though I would prefer it if you pm it to them not me as that 1 minute PM thing is annoying if you try to pm many people the same thing.
2008-06-11 20:28:07
ThaReaper
Banned
+410|7060
I'm the king of spam.
2008-06-11 20:29:18
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7127|67.222.138.85

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

I volunteer to do so. It will be long, and through and cover everything I described in my post. If the mods (and by mods I mean you FM) approve it i'll have it posted tomorrow.

FM I'll PM it to you when I'm done with it. okay?
Fine by me, just know in no way do I have the final say, and this is just brainstorming.

Remember though, the longer it is, the less likely people will actually read it.
Okay, I won't make it to long. But it does need to cover allot of stuff.

If you feel that you shouldn't get the final say on it, that other mods should look at it also that's find by me, though I would prefer it if you pm it to them not me as that 1 minute PM thing is annoying if you try to pm many people the same thing.
Who do you think gets the final say on this stuff?

As I have said numerous times on this thread, chuy gets the final say on everything. I can tell you what I think of it from my perspective, I can tell you what I think he may/may not like, but I can't make any sort of official definitive ruling.

edit: Think of the moderators like policemen. We don't enforce the rules, we just enforce them at our discretion, and a we aren't very popular with a lot of people because of it.
2008-06-11 20:30:24
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7263|Alberta, Canada

ThaReaper wrote:

I'm the king of spam.
See, it's people like you that should really be allowed to post.
We are discussing how to prevent spam, and all you are doing is spamming more.
2008-06-11 20:33:20
i g
Banned
+876|6284|GA

Ryan wrote:

ThaReaper wrote:

I'm the king of spam.
See, it's people like you that should really be allowed to post.
We are discussing how to prevent spam, and all you are doing is spamming more.
seriously man. you should already be banned from that gay thread you made last night. cut the shit man; it's not funny.
2008-06-11 20:35:30
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7127|67.222.138.85
dealt with, back on topic
2008-06-12 03:42:40
bennisboy
Member
+829|7067|Poundland
TBH, I think the current method of identifying and dealing with spam is fine. Moderator's discretion seem to work well.
I mean, ahving a definition of what is spam wont stop it, jut like having a definition of stealing doesn't stop people from doing it. Its all about how it is enforced. People will always spam, but hopefully people can learn to do it less if it means we'll actually have somewhere for non-serious topics on trackr.

Also, I find it weird how FM is the only mod to post in here so far
2008-06-12 03:48:22
Zombie_Affair
Amputee's...BOOP
+78|6236|Fattest Country in the world.
If you have nothing to contribute...

Chuy's post sums it up, I think people need a good read over that thread.
2008-06-12 04:45:06
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6707|eng

bennisboy wrote:

TBH, I think the current method of identifying and dealing with spam is fine. Moderator's discretion seem to work well.
I mean, ahving a definition of what is spam wont stop it, jut like having a definition of stealing doesn't stop people from doing it. Its all about how it is enforced. People will always spam, but hopefully people can learn to do it less if it means we'll actually have somewhere for non-serious topics on trackr.
I agree with this completely. I think that maybe the sigs and avs are going saying "LETS GET EE LOLOL" are a bit much, and slightly dangerous, because judging by chuy's past performance, he will go against the general if that's what he wants. I reckon we should all just shut the fuck up about it, he knows we want it, the more we say it the more tiresome it becomes..
#rekt
2008-06-12 05:00:17
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6822|dm_maidenhead

OrangeHound wrote:

and IRC where it seems to germinate.
I like it when people who don't even go on IRC blame it for the spam.
2008-06-12 06:37:33
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6809|New York

Peter wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

and IRC where it seems to germinate.
I like it when people who don't even go on IRC blame it for the spam.
Oh jesus fucking christ, not this shit again. Honestly, it was hardly the case when there was an issue with spam months ago, and it certainly is NOT the case now. Just about all the people that spam don't even come on IRC.
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
2008-06-12 06:52:27
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6884|A W S M F O X

kptk92 wrote:

Me on trackr wrote:

- Not spam as often as on BF2s
- Be a nice person to everyone
- Like OH more even thought he wanted to ban me on purpose
2008-06-12 09:06:50
l41e
Member
+677|7069

What is this blame game shit? Just how about everyone not spam and not point fingers at everyone else, and everyone's happy instead of bitching at someone else because they're, I dunno, fuckin' evil or something. Simple enough?
2008-06-12 10:10:28
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6900|Somewhere else

heggs wrote:

Peter wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

and IRC where it seems to germinate.
I like it when people who don't even go on IRC blame it for the spam.
Oh jesus fucking christ, not this shit again. Honestly, it was hardly the case when there was an issue with spam months ago, and it certainly is NOT the case now. Just about all the people that spam don't even come on IRC.
IRC is something entirely different. Spam is basically what IRC is.  Since IRC is not a forum, i never consider the two to be related in anything.


and another thing.  So far it looks like after 19 Permabans, you'd have 100% compliance in the no spam policy.

Last edited by RoosterCantrell (2008-06-12 10:11:50)

2008-06-12 11:17:56
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6920|so randum

Mint Sauce wrote:

bennisboy wrote:

TBH, I think the current method of identifying and dealing with spam is fine. Moderator's discretion seem to work well.
I mean, ahving a definition of what is spam wont stop it, jut like having a definition of stealing doesn't stop people from doing it. Its all about how it is enforced. People will always spam, but hopefully people can learn to do it less if it means we'll actually have somewhere for non-serious topics on trackr.
I agree with this completely. I think that maybe the sigs and avs are going saying "LETS GET EE LOLOL" are a bit much, and slightly dangerous, because judging by chuy's past performance, he will go against the general if that's what he wants. I reckon we should all just shut the fuck up about it, he knows we want it, the more we say it the more tiresome it becomes..
I don't think they're too much.

I think they show just how much the community wants this, and are making a conscious effort to cut back on the bollocks that gets posted.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
2008-06-12 11:21:49
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7127|67.222.138.85
I would wear a shut the fuck up and don't spam sig year-round.
2008-06-12 11:23:04
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6920|so randum

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I would wear a shut the fuck up and don't spam sig year-round.
If if makes people change how they post, so would i.


Timmmahh, get to work!
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
2008-06-12 14:01:27
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6809|New York

RoosterCantrell wrote:

heggs wrote:

Peter wrote:


I like it when people who don't even go on IRC blame it for the spam.
Oh jesus fucking christ, not this shit again. Honestly, it was hardly the case when there was an issue with spam months ago, and it certainly is NOT the case now. Just about all the people that spam don't even come on IRC.
IRC is something entirely different. Spam is basically what IRC is.  Since IRC is not a forum, i never consider the two to be related in anything.


and another thing.  So far it looks like after 19 Permabans, you'd have 100% compliance in the no spam policy.
First of all, we have more meaningful conversations on IRC than most of the shit that gets posted here in EE.
I'm assuming you mean 19 perms in general for various people, because I have yet to get an AWM, and I certainly don't even have a temp ban.
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
2008-06-12 14:02:29
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6884|cuntshitlake

OrangeHound wrote:

and IRC where it seems to germinate.
Due with all respect, I would like you to elaborate. In my view those days are gone, and this topic has been discussed over. There is hardly any spam, not to even talk about generating spam to forums. Also, I haven't seen you there for about 8 months, so I'd guess it really is hard for you to say.

And for reference I idle/chat there 24/7, and am an operator on the #bf2s channel along with many else. I pretty much know the difference between IRC and Forums. They live their own separate lives.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-06-12 14:30:39)

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2008-06-12 14:22:13
l41e
Member
+677|7069

So people will shut up until the all-clear is given (the section on trackr is implemented). Then they will proceed to spam their collective asses off as if nothing had happened. If that's how it's going to work than it seems to be an exercise in futility. Yes, certain regulars of Everything Else (when'd it get renamed? again? feh) are mature enough to handle not being total jackasses, but there are those who are not. The latter are the ones being targeted by this and they are the same ones who I fear it will have little lasting effect on. (Incidentally, those are the same people who just like to do things to piss people off and would probably spam to kill this.)
2008-06-12 14:30:11
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6989|Mountains of NC

with us (" vets ")  the anti-spam as been expressed in this thread but when we enter new grounds on trackr and new members show up and ignore the rules and begin to spam bc if one wants to spam the name of the section isn't going to stop one spamming

now of course the mods will come in and give swift justice to the spammer but his actions have been posted, the best we can do as " vets " is, don't post anything in the thread or quote the spammer just report and move on
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
2008-06-12 14:36:16
i g
Banned
+876|6284|GA

SEREMAKER wrote:

now of course the mods will come in and give swift justice to the spammer but his actions have been posted, the best we can do as " vets " is, don't post anything in the thread or quote the spammer just report and move on
exactly. that's where the majority of spam comes from anyway. if someone posts something stupid, click report and move on. DO NOT POST IN A SPAM THREAD even if you feel that you aren't spamming i.e. minimodding.
2008-06-12 14:37:20
THE_EYE
Banned
+76|6225|Amsterdam, NY

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

now of course the mods will come in and give swift justice to the spammer but his actions have been posted, the best we can do as " vets " is, don't post anything in the thread or quote the spammer just report and move on
exactly. that's where the majority of spam comes from anyway. if someone posts something stupid, click report and move on. DO NOT POST IN A SPAM THREAD even if you feel that you aren't spamming i.e. minimodding.
QFT

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