DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6412|Vancouver | Canada

David.P wrote:

DefCon-17 wrote:

Am I missing something?

Engies turtling behind their sentries are easy as fuck to take out.

Get behind him, put the sapper on, switch to blade and backstab him as he attempts to hit it off.

..or is that too complicated?
Yes you are missing something.

They used to...

Remember the Crit wrench?
Most engies will go for the sapper first if they're turtling.

Even if they don't, run around like a headless chicken and backstab him when he changes his mind and goes back to the sapper.

Or jump around and keep stabbing. That sometimes ends up in a fluke backstab.
David.P
Banned
+649|6530

Peter wrote:

David.P wrote:

https://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k56/dvdpiddy/ofattackscritical.png
Thats quite interesting. I knew scouts critted less.

They're supposed to be the same anyway.

Still doesn't make up for the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
No shit.

They aren't.

Remember fight fire with fire!

Last edited by David.P (2008-06-12 09:59:24)

Eldu
Member
+62|6363|Belgium

Peter wrote:

David.P wrote:

Peter wrote:

I can still take out most things fine as spy. Are you sure you're not just making up lame excuses for being terrible?

And all melee weapons have the same crit chance, apart from butterfly knife.
Tell me then how many times have you gotten critted by the wrench? Because the Official TF2 stats say different.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k56/d … itical.png
Thats quite interesting. I knew scouts critted less.

They're supposed to be the same anyway.

Still doesn't make up for the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
You tell him Pete!

Pyro is so low btw?
I get crits with my flamethrower quite often, more than with wrench I think, though I don't really pay attention to it.
Also: facestab as spy=crit with the knife?
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6658|dm_maidenhead

Eldu wrote:

Peter wrote:

David.P wrote:


Tell me then how many times have you gotten critted by the wrench? Because the Official TF2 stats say different.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k56/d … itical.png
Thats quite interesting. I knew scouts critted less.

They're supposed to be the same anyway.

Still doesn't make up for the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
You tell him Pete!

Pyro is so low btw?
I get crits with my flamethrower quite often, more than with wrench I think, though I don't really pay attention to it.
Also: facestab as spy=crit with the knife?
When the logo in the top right is a backstab icon it = crit
Brasso
member
+1,549|6886

Eldu wrote:

Peter wrote:

David.P wrote:


Tell me then how many times have you gotten critted by the wrench? Because the Official TF2 stats say different.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k56/d … itical.png
Thats quite interesting. I knew scouts critted less.

They're supposed to be the same anyway.

Still doesn't make up for the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
You tell him Pete!

Pyro is so low btw?
I get crits with my flamethrower quite often, more than with wrench I think, though I don't really pay attention to it.
Also: facestab as spy=crit with the knife?
i was under the impression that there were no crits with the knife, thanks to tf2wiki.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
David.P
Banned
+649|6530

haffeysucks wrote:

Eldu wrote:

Peter wrote:


Thats quite interesting. I knew scouts critted less.

They're supposed to be the same anyway.

Still doesn't make up for the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
You tell him Pete!

Pyro is so low btw?
I get crits with my flamethrower quite often, more than with wrench I think, though I don't really pay attention to it.
Also: facestab as spy=crit with the knife?
i was under the impression that there were no crits with the knife, thanks to tf2wiki.
Knife crits are backstabs.
Eldu
Member
+62|6363|Belgium
I really think the facestab is the crit, oh well, no matter, I am not good with spy either way .
I am glad backstabbing 1 person .
teek22
Add "teek22" on your PS3 fools!
+133|6637|Bromley, London

David.P you make me RAGE so much when I read your fucking stupid posts!!!!!

Seriously Spies are just as gd as ever. It requires you to take your fucking time when taking out sentries not just spam them with sappers and hope they will die!!!!!! If they were any more powerful you could go up to a sentry and take them out even if an engy is hitting them non stop.
They are fine as they are. Uber demoman/pyro/heavy/spy can take them out.

Also you are meant to kill the engy before you take out the sentry. Perfect timing means you can backstab an engy and sap the level 3 sentry and still live!!!

Eldu
Member
+62|6363|Belgium

teek22 wrote:

David.P you make me RAGE so much when I read your fucking stupid posts!!!!!

Seriously Spies are just as gd as ever. It requires you to take your fucking time when taking out sentries not just spam them with sappers and hope they will die!!!!!! If they were any more powerful you could go up to a sentry and take them out even if an engy is hitting them non stop.
They are fine as they are. Uber demoman/pyro/heavy/spy can take them out.

Also you are meant to kill the engy before you take out the sentry. Perfect timing means you can backstab an engy and sap the level 3 sentry and still live!!!

Don't read them?
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6724

Peter wrote:

Thats quite interesting. I knew scouts critted less.

They're supposed to be the same anyway.

Still doesn't make up for the fact that you're a whiny bitch.
Actually the base crit ratio for all guns is the same and the a;; melee weapons' crit ratios are the same but they are twice as likely to get crits as guns.

However that is only base ratio, getting kill streaks and completing objectives increases your ratio, and all weapons (knife and blutsauger included) have a 100% crit ratio during the victory period, which might be why that graph is off.
Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6528
What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6886

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Peter
Super Awesome Member
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haffeysucks wrote:

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.
?

It works..

Although I prefer quickly switching to sapper after the stab to disable sentry. Works quicker but is slightly harder to pull off.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6886

Peter wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.
?

It works..

Although I prefer quickly switching to sapper after the stab to disable sentry. Works quicker but is slightly harder to pull off.
orly?  never works for me.  video?

i do the stab/sap thing.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6658|dm_maidenhead

haffeysucks wrote:

Peter wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.
?

It works..

Although I prefer quickly switching to sapper after the stab to disable sentry. Works quicker but is slightly harder to pull off.
orly?  never works for me.  video?

i do the stab/sap thing.
Just stab then right click.
David.P
Banned
+649|6530

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.
Wrong. There is a glitch that if you go into cloak after attacking an engy, Then decloak with any disguise the sentry will kill you! Fucken funny this never happened before february 28th!
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6724
How come all these glitches only effect David? The one glitch that recurs often in TF2 that I am aware of is the Crit-Tracer glitch for Pyro and Heavy.
David.P
Banned
+649|6530

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

How come all these glitches only effect David? The one glitch that recurs often in TF2 that I am aware of is the Crit-Tracer glitch for Pyro and Heavy.
They don't just affect me, They affect alot of other people. Read the Valve TF2 forums. Alot of glitches are reported there.
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6412|Vancouver | Canada
..Cloaking doesn't stop sentries from shooting you.

You need to be disguised, as far as my experience goes.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7013|Argentina

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

How come all these glitches only effect David? The one glitch that recurs often in TF2 that I am aware of is the Crit-Tracer glitch for Pyro and Heavy.
Don't you know??  It's the David glitch, it's on the Valve forums.  It takes place when a player blames the game for his shitty performance.
SamTheMan:D
Banned
+856|6230|England

David.P wrote:

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

What the hell are you people on about engies being overpowered against spies.If they are sitting behind the sentry,kill them and cloak right away,before sentry turns around to kill you.Then disguise and sap his crap.It isnt that hard.
Wrong. There is a glitch that if you go into cloak after attacking an engy, Then decloak with any disguise the sentry will kill you! Fucken funny this never happened before february 28th!
feb 28th is my bday
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6526
There is a bug where if you cloak while it can see you, disguise, and then uncloak it will keep firing at you.

You have to go out of its range and then come back.
David.P
Banned
+649|6530

sergeriver wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

How come all these glitches only effect David? The one glitch that recurs often in TF2 that I am aware of is the Crit-Tracer glitch for Pyro and Heavy.
Don't you know??  It's the David glitch, it's on the Valve forums.  It takes place when a player blames the game for his shitty performance.
I don't blame the game. I Blame Valve and all those that whined and bitched to get things nerfed! What the fucking fuck! Can't there be one online game where noone bitches about things being too overpowered? I mean for fuck sakes this game was fucking perfect! Why doesn't Valve just stop listening to every fucking bitch that comes in their forums about Spy, Sniper, Demo, and Soldier being overpowered? You know what I wish? That Valve didn't listen to the community anymore! All these countless threads with the same ol' story. "Demoman is still too strong! Nerf him now!" "Soldier's Rockets are overpowered" "Spies backstab should'nt kill in one shot" "Headshots = Overpowered" WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK! Every single time one of these threads comes up I have to go in and debate the assholes down! I'm sick of it! I cant stand to see another Nerf!(Unless it's for engy)

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

There is a bug where if you cloak while it can see you, disguise, and then uncloak it will keep firing at you.

You have to go out of its range and then come back.
True. Except it's happened to me even after I disguised away from it's field of vision.

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