What graphics card would you reccomend...

2008-06-13 13:08:49

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Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|6976

PR and FH2 effects are causing a little too much lag for me for me . I'm also considering getting the famous Orange box anthology. So, I would like to run all of these games on the highest settings possible. However, I'm a little pressed for cash. What video card should I buy to get the most, as they say, bang for your buck? I'm not looking for something super nice that will last me 4 years, because I don't have the fastest pc as it is, and, like I said, I don't want to spend very much money. I don't know very much about hardware, so forgive me if this is a strange request.

Here is my system:

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
CPU speed: 2.79 GHz Performance Rated at 4.19 GHz
RAM: 2.0GB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Video card: RADEON X300 Series (RADEON X300/X550 Series (0x5B60))
Free disk space: 47.6 GB

Last edited by liquidat0r (2008-06-13 13:29:31)

2008-06-13 13:22:18

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Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|7012|London

You would have to say how much you are looking to spend.

2008-06-13 13:26:08

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Brasso: member; +1,549|6900

Currently, the 8800GT or 3870 will get you the most bang for your buck, but if you wait a week and a half, the GDDR3 versions of the 4850 and 4870 are coming out. In July, the GDDR5 version of the 4870 will come out and it will be godlike.

I suggest waiting til July.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-06-13 13:26:28)

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2008-06-13 13:35:24

#4

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6467|Winland

If it's PCI-E you're on, a HD3870. If it's AGP, the AGP 3850. Your whole computer needs a revamping.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-06-13 14:15:11

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CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6626|CA, USA

i'm waiting on the 280GTX. it's one week away. price is reduced to 499 now i hear.

2008-06-13 14:25:44

#6

Brasso: member; +1,549|6900

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
i'm waiting on the 280GTX. it's one week away. price is reduced to 499 now i hear.

the GTX 280 is a joke.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-06-13 14:33:22

#7

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

You should get the HD3870. I don't think your processor will be able to handle more.

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2008-06-13 14:38:46

#8

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6626|CA, USA

haffeysucks wrote:
CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
i'm waiting on the 280GTX. it's one week away. price is reduced to 499 now i hear.
the GTX 280 is a joke.

why do you say this? price performance vs 8800 solutions? i'm running a 680i board so i prefer nvidia gfx rather than ATI

2008-06-13 14:54:37

#9

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
i'm waiting on the 280GTX. it's one week away. price is reduced to 499 now i hear.
the GTX 280 is a joke.
why do you say this? price performance vs 8800 solutions? i'm running a 680i board so i prefer nvidia gfx rather than ATI

Then get 8800GT/GTS 512.

2008-06-13 15:02:17

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Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6819|UK

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
i'm waiting on the 280GTX. it's one week away. price is reduced to 499 now i hear.

If anyone gets one of those things (in the states) for less than $600 I will be impressed.

Feel sorry for the guys in europe and australia you guys are getting litterally crusified in the price. £450 is what am hearing for the UK. Apparantly it is no quicker than the GX2 in a lot of the tests.

Though I think it is somewhat of a tech team thing now for all us to hate Nvida, am not a big fan but with the 4870X2 tipped to enilate the 280 GTX (rumour), I would think twice before sinking a lot of money into that 280 GTX, atleast while its an unknown. The whole reason we are hearing price drop hints around the net is because Nvidia are somewhat concerned about ATi's cards. They know there not going to loose there crown till at the earliest august (if it even happens) but its the mid/high end card where gamers and loyalties are at. If they loose that there screwed.

Before I forget To the OP, like has been said just hold off a tad longer, we need to see how much of these rumours are actually true, it can work both ways, Nvidias card could be comperable to the second coming of jesus, or another R600 fiasco :\ And vice versa.

Martyn

2008-06-13 15:20:49

#11

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6626|CA, USA

Bell wrote:
CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
i'm waiting on the 280GTX. it's one week away. price is reduced to 499 now i hear.
If anyone gets one of those things (in the states) for less than $600 I will be impressed.

Feel sorry for the guys in europe and australia you guys are getting litterally crusified in the price. £450 is what am hearing for the UK. Apparantly it is no quicker than the GX2 in a lot of the tests.

Though I think it is somewhat of a tech team thing now for all us to hate Nvida, am not a big fan but with the 4870X2 tipped to enilate the 280 GTX (rumour), I would think twice before sinking a lot of money into that 280 GTX, atleast while its an unknown. The whole reason we are hearing price drop hints around the net is because Nvidia are somewhat concerned about ATi's cards. They know there not going to loose there crown till at the earliest august (if it even happens) but its the mid/high end card where gamers and loyalties are at. If they loose that there screwed.

Before I forget To the OP, like has been said just hold off a tad longer, we need to see how much of these rumours are actually true, it can work both ways, Nvidias card could be comperable to the second coming of jesus, or another R600 fiasco :\ And vice versa.

Martyn

just today on http://www.fudzilla.com i saw reports of some speeds of 3 way SLI with gtx280 and compared with quad SLI. looks like gtx solution is much faster than the gx2 solution. further, consider the heat given off by these cards. if the gtx280 is even of same order of magnitude performance as gx2, i'd prefer the lower power version (which gtx280 appears to be) due to heat. my office is already a sauna because of all the heat of my components. due to the larger # of stream processors (240) i'm thinking the 280 would be the way to go. i want something to last 2 years or more. if i go with 8800 series i could save money up front but then i might again be in same boat where i cannot play certain games due to gfx slowness. CoD4 for me is slideshow in anything under 1024x768 with all detail at low currently.

i'm not saying i'm going to buy or pre-buy the card right when it comes out. obviously it would be prudent to get it maybe a week or two later when we get the specs to determine if it is worth it. i have budget for 1-2 of these cards at the prices they were quoting. i'll probably go with only one and maybe stage another for a later purchase if needed.

2008-06-13 16:01:41

#12

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6819|UK

GTX is not a lower power version (as in watts). It zaps more power than a GX2 and has arguably a less impressive cooler. There are reports of it running as much as 30% hotter than a R600 chip (not to patronise but that is a very bad thing). Two of them is going to call for insane additional cooling.

Although I cant really rip appart the argument of getting a 280 GTX (yet), because there little in the way of solid real world reliable benchmarks, for all I know the card could be insane, but, if what we have been led to believe is true, then I would suggest a better use of your hard earned is a mid range card this year, and then another new mid range next year. It work out cheaper and allow you to play the games of the next two years at respectable settings. You cant tell the difference above 60fps.

Martyn

2008-06-13 16:22:52

#13

i g: Banned; +876|6134|GA

8800gs for 100 bucks will play all those games on max settings

2008-06-13 16:24:31

#14

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

I say 8600GT for that rig. From first hand experience, I have run TF2, PR, BF2, BF2142 and CoD4 on all high with decent or better fps.

And you can pick it up for around $50 on newegg.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-06-13 16:32:51)

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2008-06-13 16:29:17

#15

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6626|CA, USA

Bell wrote:
GTX is not a lower power version (as in watts). It zaps more power than a GX2 and has arguably a less impressive cooler. There are reports of it running as much as 30% hotter than a R600 chip (not to patronise but that is a very bad thing). Two of them is going to call for insane additional cooling.

Although I cant really rip appart the argument of getting a 280 GTX (yet), because there little in the way of solid real world reliable benchmarks, for all I know the card could be insane, but, if what we have been led to believe is true, then I would suggest a better use of your hard earned is a mid range card this year, and then another new mid range next year. It work out cheaper and allow you to play the games of the next two years at respectable settings. You cant tell the difference above 60fps.

Martyn

RE: power consumption

i was basing my opinions from http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=283808 and http://www.goodcleantech.com/2008/06/th … antigr.php so browsing through this i got impression that gtx was better than gx2.

true that 2-3 of them will be problematic since they are tight fit. again, look at fudzilla site for pic of 2 and 3 of them installed on a mobo. looks pretty though. not sure how to route wires for the headers underneath for usb, fire wire, etc - it's soo tight in there

2008-06-13 16:33:20

#16

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6819|UK

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
Bell wrote:
GTX is not a lower power version (as in watts). It zaps more power than a GX2 and has arguably a less impressive cooler. There are reports of it running as much as 30% hotter than a R600 chip (not to patronise but that is a very bad thing). Two of them is going to call for insane additional cooling.

Although I cant really rip appart the argument of getting a 280 GTX (yet), because there little in the way of solid real world reliable benchmarks, for all I know the card could be insane, but, if what we have been led to believe is true, then I would suggest a better use of your hard earned is a mid range card this year, and then another new mid range next year. It work out cheaper and allow you to play the games of the next two years at respectable settings. You cant tell the difference above 60fps.

Martyn
RE: power consumption

i was basing my opinions from http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=283808 and http://www.goodcleantech.com/2008/06/th … antigr.php so browsing through this i got impression that gtx was better than gx2.

true that 2-3 of them will be problematic since they are tight fit. again, look at fudzilla site for pic of 2 and 3 of them installed on a mobo. looks pretty though. not sure how to route wires for the headers underneath for usb, fire wire, etc - it's soo tight in there

Quick responce Just came back in the room and refreshed this, it's not as if am sitting waitin on you 8-)

Anyway, if you look down the vr-zone thread there is an explination about it though:

Well that 3dMark06 number is 62% out of TDP (236W)

Martyn

2008-06-13 16:38:15

#17

Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|6976

DeathUnlimited wrote:
I say 8600GT for that rig. From first hand experience, I have run TF2, PR, BF2, BF2142 and CoD4 on all high with decent or better fps.

And you can pick it up for around $50 on newegg.

Does anybody else think this is the way to go?

2008-06-13 16:49:09

#18

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

Deadmonkiefart wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
I say 8600GT for that rig. From first hand experience, I have run TF2, PR, BF2, BF2142 and CoD4 on all high with decent or better fps.

And you can pick it up for around $50 on newegg.
Does anybody else think this is the way to go?

Nope, i'd never recommend that card. 3850 is better.

2008-06-13 17:03:44

#19

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6467|Winland

.Sup wrote:
Deadmonkiefart wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
I say 8600GT for that rig. From first hand experience, I have run TF2, PR, BF2, BF2142 and CoD4 on all high with decent or better fps.

And you can pick it up for around $50 on newegg.
Does anybody else think this is the way to go?
Nope, i'd never recommend that card. 3850 is better.

You're outdated, .Sup. The 8600 series is actually quite good nowmore. It was just crappy drivers that held it back in the early months, and that hirt the line's reputation a lot. From 8600GT being about equal to 7600GS/GT and 8600GTS being about equal to 7600GT/7800GS, they're both about twice as fast as their counterparts. Seeing how op has a P4, it'd create a pretty balanced system. One 8600GT can perform about 5k in 3DMark06. My 3870+P4 can squeeze out 6k8, and that's a P4 clocked 1.2GHz faster than his.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-06-13 17:08:02

#20

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6723|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Does anybody else think this is the way to go?
Nope, i'd never recommend that card. 3850 is better.
You're outdated, .Sup. The 8600 series is actually quite good nowmore. It was just crappy drivers that held it back in the early months, and that hirt the line's reputation a lot. From 8600GT being about equal to 7600GS/GT and 8600GTS being about equal to 7600GT/7800GS, they're both about twice as fast as their counterparts. Seeing how op has a P4, it'd create a pretty balanced system. One 8600GT can perform about 5k in 3DMark06. My 3870+P4 can squeeze out 6k8, and that's a P4 clocked 1.2GHz faster than his.

So basically you're saying 8600GT is better than HD3850?

2008-06-13 17:08:48

#21

Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|6976

Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Does anybody else think this is the way to go?
Nope, i'd never recommend that card. 3850 is better.
You're outdated, .Sup. The 8600 series is actually quite good nowmore. It was just crappy drivers that held it back in the early months, and that hirt the line's reputation a lot. From 8600GT being about equal to 7600GS/GT and 8600GTS being about equal to 7600GT/7800GS, they're both about twice as fast as their counterparts. Seeing how op has a P4, it'd create a pretty balanced system. One 8600GT can perform about 5k in 3DMark06. My 3870+P4 can squeeze out 6k8, and that's a P4 clocked 1.2GHz faster than his.

So, yes? I should get a 8600GT?
I am happy with the price. If it's a little bit slower, I don't mind.

2008-06-13 17:12:39

#22

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6467|Winland

.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Nope, i'd never recommend that card. 3850 is better.
You're outdated, .Sup. The 8600 series is actually quite good nowmore. It was just crappy drivers that held it back in the early months, and that hirt the line's reputation a lot. From 8600GT being about equal to 7600GS/GT and 8600GTS being about equal to 7600GT/7800GS, they're both about twice as fast as their counterparts. Seeing how op has a P4, it'd create a pretty balanced system. One 8600GT can perform about 5k in 3DMark06. My 3870+P4 can squeeze out 6k8, and that's a P4 clocked 1.2GHz faster than his.
So basically you're saying 8600GT is better than HD3850?

Definitly not, but it's a better value than the 3850, concerning his CPU. A 3850 would just be a huge overkill. It wouldn't perform much better than an 8600GT.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:

Nope, i'd never recommend that card. 3850 is better.
You're outdated, .Sup. The 8600 series is actually quite good nowmore. It was just crappy drivers that held it back in the early months, and that hirt the line's reputation a lot. From 8600GT being about equal to 7600GS/GT and 8600GTS being about equal to 7600GT/7800GS, they're both about twice as fast as their counterparts. Seeing how op has a P4, it'd create a pretty balanced system. One 8600GT can perform about 5k in 3DMark06. My 3870+P4 can squeeze out 6k8, and that's a P4 clocked 1.2GHz faster than his.
So, yes? I should get a 8600GT?
I am happy with the price. If it's a little bit slower, I don't mind.

Yes, I'd go for it. It should make a fairly balanced system.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-06-13 17:13:41)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-06-13 17:16:52

#23

Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|6976

Thank you very much. I was looking for cheapest quality I could get. I just need 1 more person to agree/confirm before I buy. Anyone?

2008-06-13 17:18:19

#24

Yellowman03: Once Again, We Meet at Last; +108|6504|Texas

Deadmonkiefart wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
I say 8600GT for that rig. From first hand experience, I have run TF2, PR, BF2, BF2142 and CoD4 on all high with decent or better fps.

And you can pick it up for around $50 on newegg.
Does anybody else think this is the way to go?

i have the exact same rig as you only my processor is one level above. I upgraded from an x300 last Christmas to xfx 8600gt XXX edition. It runs all the new games well, and I couldn't be happier.

2008-06-13 17:20:31

#25

Deadmonkiefart: Floccinaucinihilipilificator; +177|6976

Thank you all for your help. +1 all around

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