Gtx 280 Review Here

2008-06-16 09:59:26

#1

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6734|Hong Kong

Well, the CARD BLOWS. Its outperformed by its last gen 9800GX2 by quite a margin, it sucks.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware … view.ars/1

I'm reading this one:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14934/3

Yeah, okay, anyhow, the GTX280 still sucks.

Guru3D:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-g … view-test/

Last edited by JaMrulezass (2008-06-16 10:07:16)

2008-06-16 10:08:42

#2

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6819|UK

Let the drivers settle, these are still beta. Still, it isnt exactly good marketing to launch a card beaten by your previous flagship.

Martyn

2008-06-16 10:24:14

#3

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6716|Amsterdam‫

OW that is not good news. I hope it will improve with better drivers.
Does the 280GTX cost more than the 9800GX2?

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2008-06-16 10:31:34

#4

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6467|Winland

menzo2003 wrote:
OW that is not good news. I hope it will improve with better drivers.
Does the 280GTX cost more than the 9800GX2?

They're about the same, it seems.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-06-16 11:05:43

#5

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7006|Salt Lake City

If the reviews of the 4870 are favorable, my 8800GT is being partially decommissioned into my secondary box.

One review by the Inq. indicated that they couldn't get SLI to work even using a 1KW PSU.

2008-06-16 11:15:57

#6

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6819|UK

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
If the reviews of the 4870 are favorable, my 8800GT is being partially decommissioned into my secondary box.

One review by the Inq. indicated that they couldn't get SLI to work even using a 1KW PSU.

The power requirments are ludacris. I remember specing a 1KW PSU for a buddy of mine saying you would never really need to replace that thing (other than if you where so inclined to buy a more efficent one as the years progress). Yet I was blatently wrong!

It's also quite funny though, Nvidia hammered ATi for R600 in regards to it's poor yields and the power consumption vs performance generated, yet here we are a few years later and the tables turned. I dont even think with the 55nm refresh they have already taped out is going to help matters that much, as 65 > 55nm isnt as big as the jump from say 80 >55nm in regards to the 2900XT > 3870.

And then there is the price, that is beyond insane. SLI prices would be quoted at $1400-2100 for duall and Tri SLI! If I still loved in the UK I would be looking at £1500 (just shy of $3000) for Tri SLI, not to mention some other high end components capable of running the thing :\

Still, am interested to see Maxishines vid on youtube, if he actually does it again.

Edit: Typo

Martyn

Last edited by Bell (2008-06-16 11:18:29)

2008-06-16 11:19:49

#7

Brasso: member; +1,549|6900

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2008-06-16 11:32:33

#8

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6716|Amsterdam‫

look at this

https://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/productdb/ZGRnn2ZkyZhl/bGRkaJiZmJbK,bGRkaJiZmJfK,bGZkapiSmJbK,bGRkZJiXmJTK,bGNkZ5iamJfKYMg,bGRkaJiXmJfK,bGRkaZiXmJnK,bGNkapibmJbK,bGNkaJiYmJPKYsg,bGNkZ5iamJfKYcg,bGRkZJiUmJTKYMg,bGNkbJiUmJTKZcg,bGRkapiUmJHKYMg/FF0000,FF0000,FF0000,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,00FF00,0000FF/benchmark/

huge gap with the 9800gtx

2008-06-16 11:43:10

#9

ELITE-UK: Scratching my back; +170|6744|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND

Anyone know when Ati's new cards are coming out, i got plenty of money to splash out on the best.

Should i get this new Nvidia card or wait for the Ati?

Oh and if i eventually get a Ati card will it work on a Nforce 780i sli mobo?

Last edited by ELITE-UK (2008-06-16 11:43:26)

2008-06-16 11:49:32

#10

mikkel: Member; +383|6871

Let's wait 'till the cards aren't engineering samples, and the drivers are actually done before we start making absolute statements. The 280GTX is the first performance card launched in the new series, while the 9800GX2 is the last performance card released in the 8/9 series. I'm sure that we'll see improved 280GTX results when the drivers are final, and I'm sure that we'll see cards in the 200 series that'll absolutely blow the 9800GX2 out of the water.

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2008-06-16 11:59:22

#11

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7006|Salt Lake City

ELITE-UK wrote:
Anyone know when Ati's new cards are coming out, i got plenty of money to splash out on the best.

Should i get this new Nvidia card or wait for the Ati?

Oh and if i eventually get a Ati card will it work on a Nforce 780i sli mobo?

Everything I've seen says June 23rd.

2008-06-16 12:30:12

#12

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6837|NYC / Hamburg

I have mixed feelings about this card. The power requirements and price are crazy. It's going to be a bitch to get them to run quietly.

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2008-06-16 12:57:00

#13

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6627|CA, USA

so is the 280gtx 65nm process? if so, when is the new 55nm version supposed to come out?

as proven before, timing on upgrades here is everything so you don't get obseleted too fast.

2008-06-16 13:11:09

#14

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6819|UK

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
so is the 280gtx 65nm process? if so, when is the new 55nm version supposed to come out?

as proven before, timing on upgrades here is everything so you don't get obseleted too fast.

They already taped it out, could be any time, but it wont nescesarily help that much, it may bring heat down to tolerable levels but I doubt it will offer much in the way of inivation. Although, I would bank on a 55nm 280 Ultra version with 256SP to take the crown off the 4870X2 if that does indeed take it in august.

Martyn

2008-06-16 13:11:21

#15

[-DER-]Omega: membeR; +188|7097|Lithuania

Freezer7Pro wrote:
menzo2003 wrote:
OW that is not good news. I hope it will improve with better drivers.
Does the 280GTX cost more than the 9800GX2?
They're about the same, it seems.

Uh, it's roughly $150 USD more than the 9800gx2....

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2008-06-16 13:25:36

#16

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6467|Winland

[-DER-]Omega wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
menzo2003 wrote:
OW that is not good news. I hope it will improve with better drivers.
Does the 280GTX cost more than the 9800GX2?
They're about the same, it seems.
Uh, it's roughly $150 USD more than the 9800gx2....

$150 is nothing tbh. You can probably find a GX2 for more than a 280 as well.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-06-16 13:39:40

#17

[-DER-]Omega: membeR; +188|7097|Lithuania

Freezer7Pro wrote:
$150 is nothing tbh.

You're the odd one out on that thought tbh

You can probably find a GX2 for more than a 280 as well.

What does that mean? I bet I can find a super ultra mega clocked 8800 that's more than a 280 as well. In most cases, 280 > gx2 in cost.

2008-06-16 17:34:22

#18

=Karma-Kills=: "Don't post while intoxicated."; +356|6854|England

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ … cores-here

2008-06-16 17:41:15

#19

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6467|Winland

[-DER-]Omega wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
$150 is nothing tbh.
You're the odd one out on that thought tbh

You can probably find a GX2 for more than a 280 as well.
What does that mean? I bet I can find a super ultra mega clocked 8800 that's more than a 280 as well. In most cases, 280 > gx2 in cost.

In comparative prices, $150 is nothing. When different manufacturers start releasing them, the differences can be $150 for the same card.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-06-16 18:16:59

#20

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|6839|Portland, OR, USA

=Karma-Kills= wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/14/complete-gtx280-scores-here

That looks like quite an improvement to me...

2008-06-16 19:08:14

#21

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6807|Long Island, New York

Disappointing, in all honesty. I expected more.

I'll see what happens when the 4870x2 benchmarks come out. You have to remember that they're using beta drivers. So when you think about it, the performance it's shown with beta drivers is damn good. I also think some people are forgetting that it's a single card, not two cards like the 9800 GX2. Imagine 2 of these in SLi?

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-06-16 19:11:44)

2008-06-17 23:07:05

#22

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6870|132 and Bush

=Karma-Kills= wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/14/complete-gtx280-scores-here

"That's what you get for signing NDAs, which is why we don't".

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-06-17 23:19:37

#23

SpIk3y: Minister of Silly Walks; +67|6409|New Jersey

=Karma-Kills= wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/14/complete-gtx280-scores-here

It looks like a pretty nice card according to that.

2008-06-18 00:15:38

#24

G-NOT_(:0): Banned; +19|6269

JaMrulezass wrote:
Well, the CARD BLOWS. Its outperformed by its last gen 9800GX2 by quite a margin, it sucks.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware … view.ars/1

I'm reading this one:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14934/3

Yeah, okay, anyhow, the GTX280 still sucks.

Guru3D:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-g … view-test/

You fail to realize that the drivers are immature...just like the gx2 when it first came out...everyone saying it was a shitty card...
since then the drivers have improved immensely...

theres some new drivers out now for the card and it should improve...other than that, its a single gpu chip, not dual chips into one card...and still, 5-10 fps lower than the 9800gx2....thats pretty damn good. Espeically haviing beta drivers....

*sigh* ati fanboyz

2008-06-18 02:41:43

#25

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6891|London, England

I don't know why people are comparing it to the 9800GTX, it should be compared to its nearest rival in terms of price. Which is the 9800GX2. Which is cheaper and better at games. Now, when the 280 GX2 comes out, then you'll see the shit. But then when that comes out, how much will it cost? Probably $1000

BF2S Forums Gtx 280 Review Here

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