Gold star. Move to the top of the class.Turquoise wrote:
To sum up this thread... Religion is typically outdated in its view of gay people, gay people are often born with neurological traits that favor homosexuality, marriage should be separated from government, and civil unions should accommodate gay people in addition to straight ones.
Pedophilia itself is simply an attraction to children. When people act on this attraction, THEN it becomes harmful.CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
how do you draw the distinction between pedophilia as does not harm others? i'm lost as to how you get to that conclusion. i view pedophiles as predators targeting young people because they are exactly that young and vulnerable. easy to manipulate. as an older adult, you can talk circles around most young people. there is also a bond of trust around adults that young people are socialized into having that gets violated here. so i'm not sure what you mean here - please clarify how pedophilia alone does not harm other people.HurricaИe wrote:
I don't see what's terrible about homosexuality. Sexual relationships between two men usually occur when they're both of an age that they can make responsible decisions. I see no difference between a guy and a chick having sex and two guys having sex. Sure, I may not get hard from other men, but if others do then so be it.
Also, on a side note... preventing gays from marrying, in my opinion, is no different than preventing blacks from using the same water fountains as whites.
Before anyone pulls the idiotic pedophilia card again: homosexuality does not inherently harm others. If two men or women consensually have sex, then that's fine. Technically, pedophilia alone doesn't harm others... but child molestation and exploitation do (and pedophilia is often linked to molestation and exploitation).
i don't see homosexuality as evil. what i see as bad is the 'in-your-face-ness' of the agenda these people are pushing. Check out the Folsom Street Fair. this is way beyond what i call good taste and inclusiveness. if you want to celebrate your gay-ness, fine - just don't fuck eachother in the street. uh....i'm gonna hurl!
As long as gays neither adopt children nor "marry" (rename it if you wish, guys) I agree with what you've said.Braddock wrote:
Gold star. Move to the top of the class.Turquoise wrote:
To sum up this thread... Religion is typically outdated in its view of gay people, gay people are often born with neurological traits that favor homosexuality, marriage should be separated from government, and civil unions should accommodate gay people in addition to straight ones.
I just read that back and it sounded really sarcastic, I actually do agree with Turquoise.
Why no adoptions?konfusion wrote:
As long as gays neither adopt children nor "marry" (rename it if you wish, guys) I agree with what you've said.
-kon
If everybody were gay then we would cease to exist. ....cease to exists implies danger.oug wrote:
Read again. I never said it was in danger. Nor did I say that gays are not human beings. Wtf.ReTox wrote:
Yes... you are.oug wrote:
If everybody were gay then we would cease to exist. So I guess to my mind, preservation of the species would be reason enough to use it on an unborn child. Am I wrong?
Being gay doesn't mean that someone automatically can't reproduce. Genus homosapien is not in danger of extinction just because 'the gays' are out there.
It all comes down to a simple fact: gay or straight, you are still a human being.
Why the big opposition to gay marriage? I don't give a shit about the religious aspect of the argument but I do think gay couple should be entitled to the same tax benefits of heterosexual marriage.konfusion wrote:
As long as gays neither adopt children nor "marry" (rename it if you wish, guys) I agree with what you've said.
-kon
You've hit the nail on the head there lowing. Is it possible that these people believe that gay people still find members of the opposite sex sexually desirable yet choose to resist those urges and pursue members of the same sex?...because I would find that idea totally ludicrous.lowing wrote:
The very second, one of you, "its a choice" folks can tell me when you specifically chose to be attracted to the opposite sex. I will concede to that point.
Why not?konfusion wrote:
As long as gays neither adopt children
If the government doesn't recognize marriage anyone can call their civil union whatever they want. Whether you choose to call them married is up to you, just as they can call themselves whatever they wish.konfusion wrote:
nor "marry"
The fact of the matter is you get gay perverts and straight perverts. If you'd like to supply some reliable sources or statistics to back up your argument that most perverts and deviants tend to be gay then please post them. I have a friend who is a lesbian in a steady relationship, she has a daughter as a result of being raped...in spite of all of this she is one of the most responsible parents I know and her child is a lovely, well balanced, well behaved kid. The only sexual deviant in that conundrum is the heterosexual scumbag who raped her.Lotta_Drool wrote:
A high percentage of gays are nothing more than perverts, they would stick it in anything with a pulse. A disproportional number of boys are molested and raped each year by men than girls are if the gay population is 1 in 11 ( 1 in 22 for males then assuming half are lesbians ). I think this is because many gays are just perverts and they are perverts because they are readily willing to act on perverted thoughts and such. I am willing to bet every straight guy has seen the 14-17 year old girl that has made him go damn, but a normal person doesn't start hitting on them or decide to rape them. I have seen and heard enough about the gay community to know that 14-17 year old boys tend to be fair game among gay men and perferred by many.
What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for men to like young women and use that as an excuse for rape? What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for the farmer to screw sheep or the necrophiliac to like dead people.
Point being is that everything could ultimately be blamed on genetics. And just because some people can't follow a conversation I will include this disclaimer:
I have never stated homosexuality is wrong. This threads intent is not to equate homosexuality to illegal activities. It's only intent is to illistrate that say " My actions are not my choice, it is genetic " is a bullshit arguement that is paper thin.
Could you please read up to my last post, and answer the question posed in it? Basically, when did you DECIDE to be straight? WHen did you wiegh all of your options and make a choice?Lotta_Drool wrote:
A high percentage of gays are nothing more than perverts, they would stick it in anything with a pulse. A disproportional number of boys are molested and raped each year by men than girls are if the gay population is 1 in 11 ( 1 in 22 for males then assuming half are lesbians ). I think this is because many gays are just perverts and they are perverts because they are readily willing to act on perverted thoughts and such. I am willing to bet every straight guy has seen the 14-17 year old girl that has made him go damn, but a normal person doesn't start hitting on them or decide to rape them. I have seen and heard enough about the gay community to know that 14-17 year old boys tend to be fair game among gay men and perferred by many.
What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for men to like young women and use that as an excuse for rape? What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for the farmer to screw sheep or the necrophiliac to like dead people.
Point being is that everything could ultimately be blamed on genetics. And just because some people can't follow a conversation I will include this disclaimer:
I have never stated homosexuality is wrong. This threads intent is not to equate homosexuality to illegal activities. It's only intent is to illistrate that say " My actions are not my choice, it is genetic " is a bullshit arguement that is paper thin.
Could you please scroll up to my last post then and answer the question posed?Lotta_Drool wrote:
A high percentage of gays are nothing more than perverts, they would stick it in anything with a pulse. A disproportional number of boys are molested and raped each year by men than girls are if the gay population is 1 in 11 ( 1 in 22 for males then assuming half are lesbians ). I think this is because many gays are just perverts and they are perverts because they are readily willing to act on perverted thoughts and such. I am willing to bet every straight guy has seen the 14-17 year old girl that has made him go damn, but a normal person doesn't start hitting on them or decide to rape them. I have seen and heard enough about the gay community to know that 14-17 year old boys tend to be fair game among gay men and perferred by many.
What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for men to like young women and use that as an excuse for rape? What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for the farmer to screw sheep or the necrophiliac to like dead people.
Point being is that everything could ultimately be blamed on genetics. And just because some people can't follow a conversation I will include this disclaimer:
I have never stated homosexuality is wrong. This threads intent is not to equate homosexuality to illegal activities. It's only intent is to illistrate that say " My actions are not my choice, it is genetic " is a bullshit arguement that is paper thin.
I choose to be straight before every sexual act I engage in.lowing wrote:
Could you please read up to my last post, and answer the question posed in it? Basically, when did you DECIDE to be straight? WHen did you wiegh all of your options and make a choice?Lotta_Drool wrote:
A high percentage of gays are nothing more than perverts, they would stick it in anything with a pulse. A disproportional number of boys are molested and raped each year by men than girls are if the gay population is 1 in 11 ( 1 in 22 for males then assuming half are lesbians ). I think this is because many gays are just perverts and they are perverts because they are readily willing to act on perverted thoughts and such. I am willing to bet every straight guy has seen the 14-17 year old girl that has made him go damn, but a normal person doesn't start hitting on them or decide to rape them. I have seen and heard enough about the gay community to know that 14-17 year old boys tend to be fair game among gay men and perferred by many.
What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for men to like young women and use that as an excuse for rape? What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for the farmer to screw sheep or the necrophiliac to like dead people.
Point being is that everything could ultimately be blamed on genetics. And just because some people can't follow a conversation I will include this disclaimer:
I have never stated homosexuality is wrong. This threads intent is not to equate homosexuality to illegal activities. It's only intent is to illistrate that say " My actions are not my choice, it is genetic " is a bullshit arguement that is paper thin.
I did not choose to straight, it is simply the mere thought of sex with a guy is repulsive to me. I am sure you feel the same.Lotta_Drool wrote:
I choose to be straight before every sexual act I engage in.lowing wrote:
Could you please read up to my last post, and answer the question posed in it? Basically, when did you DECIDE to be straight? WHen did you wiegh all of your options and make a choice?Lotta_Drool wrote:
A high percentage of gays are nothing more than perverts, they would stick it in anything with a pulse. A disproportional number of boys are molested and raped each year by men than girls are if the gay population is 1 in 11 ( 1 in 22 for males then assuming half are lesbians ). I think this is because many gays are just perverts and they are perverts because they are readily willing to act on perverted thoughts and such. I am willing to bet every straight guy has seen the 14-17 year old girl that has made him go damn, but a normal person doesn't start hitting on them or decide to rape them. I have seen and heard enough about the gay community to know that 14-17 year old boys tend to be fair game among gay men and perferred by many.
What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for men to like young women and use that as an excuse for rape? What makes saying Homosexuality is genetic any more acceptable than saying that it is genetic for the farmer to screw sheep or the necrophiliac to like dead people.
Point being is that everything could ultimately be blamed on genetics. And just because some people can't follow a conversation I will include this disclaimer:
I have never stated homosexuality is wrong. This threads intent is not to equate homosexuality to illegal activities. It's only intent is to illistrate that say " My actions are not my choice, it is genetic " is a bullshit arguement that is paper thin.
Have you ever choose NOT to have gay sex? Sex is a choice. I have never denied that some people have hormonal issues or genes that make them perfer their own sex.
My whole point is that people have control over what actions they take. My whole point is that the " Gays have no choice " logic is dangerous because I see the criminals of the world using it. " Me screwing 12 year olds is genetic, I was born that way. It is not my fault, I have a disability..... "
I have nothing against two concenting adults doing their thing in private or living their life. I do believe though that a high percent of Homosexuals are just perverts. If not explain bisexuals?
My reasons are all over the old gay thread. Not sure which one it was... But basically, I think marriage is between man and woman, and idiot celebrities who take it as a joke should not be allowed IMO. I don't care what they call it, tbh.ZombieVampire! wrote:
Why not?konfusion wrote:
As long as gays neither adopt childrenIf the government doesn't recognize marriage anyone can call their civil union whatever they want. Whether you choose to call them married is up to you, just as they can call themselves whatever they wish.konfusion wrote:
nor "marry"
Ah, but the ACT of eating asparagus is a choice. This is my point. There are many things I would like to do but choose not too. You weren't born forced to not eat asparagus, you just perfer not too.lowing wrote:
I did not choose to straight, it is simply the mere thought of sex with a guy is repulsive to me. I am sure you feel the same.Lotta_Drool wrote:
I choose to be straight before every sexual act I engage in.lowing wrote:
Could you please read up to my last post, and answer the question posed in it? Basically, when did you DECIDE to be straight? WHen did you wiegh all of your options and make a choice?
Have you ever choose NOT to have gay sex? Sex is a choice. I have never denied that some people have hormonal issues or genes that make them perfer their own sex.
My whole point is that people have control over what actions they take. My whole point is that the " Gays have no choice " logic is dangerous because I see the criminals of the world using it. " Me screwing 12 year olds is genetic, I was born that way. It is not my fault, I have a disability..... "
I have nothing against two concenting adults doing their thing in private or living their life. I do believe though that a high percent of Homosexuals are just perverts. If not explain bisexuals?
I do not choose to hate asparagus, I just do not like it, you however might love the stuff...........did you choose to love it? ( if you do that is)
bisexuals are just that............they are not repulsed by same sex, sex like you and I are........asparagus all over again.
Your "choice" to be straight before every sexual act you perform is do to one thing........your lack of a choice. Since you are wired to be repulsed by same sex, sex...you have NO CHOICE, but to have heterosexual sex.
I am completely in line with lowing's thinking on this one. Food is actually a good example as a comparison for the sexual urge, when you're hungry you crave for the foods you love to sate your hunger, if you have gone without sex for a long time you crave for sexual intimacy with the type of sexual partner you desire (women for straight guys and men for gay guys). The kind of sexual activity you see in prisons can even be compared with starvation, if a human gets hungry enough he will sometimes eat anything!lowing wrote:
I did not choose to straight, it is simply the mere thought of sex with a guy is repulsive to me. I am sure you feel the same.Lotta_Drool wrote:
I choose to be straight before every sexual act I engage in.lowing wrote:
Yadda yadda.
Have you ever choose NOT to have gay sex? Sex is a choice. I have never denied that some people have hormonal issues or genes that make them perfer their own sex.
My whole point is that people have control over what actions they take. My whole point is that the " Gays have no choice " logic is dangerous because I see the criminals of the world using it. " Me screwing 12 year olds is genetic, I was born that way. It is not my fault, I have a disability..... "
I have nothing against two concenting adults doing their thing in private or living their life. I do believe though that a high percent of Homosexuals are just perverts. If not explain bisexuals?
I do not choose to hate asparagus, I just do not like it, you however might love the stuff...........did you choose to love it? ( if you do that is)
bisexuals are just that............they are not repulsed by same sex, sex like you and I are........asparagus all over again.
Your "choice" to be straight before every sexual act you perform is do to one thing........your lack of a choice. Since you are wired to be repulsed by same sex, sex...you have NO CHOICE, but to have heterosexual sex.