BF2S Forums Should all law offenders be on a register?

usmarine2 wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Insurance is mandatory in Australia. I see no reason why the police had no reason to impound the car. If you travel interstate in Australia and your vehicle is in the state for x amount of days you need to register your car with that state's vehicle registration office or your vehicle gets impounded. It's the same if you don't return to plates.

One would think that.  And kudos to Aussie land.  But, there is a reason we have "uninsured" insurance here in the US.

I guess we Aussies take our law for granted .

DesertFox- wrote:

I'd say so, just in order to end the hypocrisy exhibited by only making a certain kind of offender register and provide all that information. All or none would be best.

Like Turq says "I'm against this [sex offender] registration unless we instead create a registration of all murderers, sex offenders, rapists, and corporate criminals.  Only then would this idea be consistent in its execution."

That's what I thought at first. It's weird to only single out one type of crime on a register, but then I think about the actual crime Sex Offenders make..

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SenorToenails wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Insurance is mandatory in Australia. I see no reason why the police had no reason to impound the car. If you travel interstate in Australia and your vehicle is in the state for x amount of days you need to register your car with that state's vehicle registration office or your vehicle gets impounded. It's the same if you don't return to plates.

Yep.  That's what should have happened.  It looks great on paper when there are all these DUI convictions, but the assholes are back on the road anyway.  As long as they don't get pulled over or get into any accidents, no one ever finds out or does anything about it.

Hmm, backwards system much? I know I keep referring to Australian Law, but I'm just shocked about the way your country does things. Over here, you would have warrants for your arrest. Things would get done. A lot of police here have nothing better to do, so they would have no problem coming to your house to serve your warrant.

SenorToenails wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Hmm, backwards system much? I know I keep referring to Australian Law, but I'm just shocked about the way your country does things. Over here, you would have warrants for your arrest. Things would get done. A lot of police here have nothing better to do, so they would have no problem coming to your house to serve your warrant.

It pisses me off, since these laws exist to prevent exactly what happened.  I'm sure there are places where these laws get enforced...I grew up in a village that ticketed people going 31 in a 30 (kind of a funny story, actually).  But where the accident happened, the county sheriff was the main law enforcement and they just didn't care enough to do anything.

Edit:  He probably figured that since no one was hurt, it was no big deal.

Sheriff: "An appointed or elected county officer whose duties vary depending upon in which county and state he serves. The sheriffs duties may range from that of being the chief law enforcement officer to merely one who enforces judicial orders."

We don't have any of that. We have State Police (All State police are exactly the same in all states) and Federal Police. All with pretty much the same authority (slightly different laws per state). As for the getting fined for going 31 in a 30 zone, we get that too, but our Death Toll on the roads is the reason for it. We recently (last few years) had a Nation wide change to our maximum speed limit on streets and built up areas from 60 KM/h (36 mph) to 50 KM/h (30 mph) to account for a lot of fatalities on the roads.

And whether or not anybody was hurt, someone was breaking the law, you would think, that their job being to enfore the law, would be to investigate it further lol.

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SenorToenails wrote:

Zombie_Affair wrote:

Sheriff: "An appointed or elected county officer whose duties vary depending upon in which county and state he serves. The sheriffs duties may range from that of being the chief law enforcement officer to merely one who enforces judicial orders."

There are local police (based on village, town, city, etc...), county police, state police, and federal police.  At least, that has been my experience in New York State.

Zombie_Affair wrote:

And whether or not anybody was hurt, someone was breaking the law, you would think, that their job being to enfore the law, would be to investigate it further lol.

You'd think so.  They should have done their job.

You mentioned that the Sheriff said it was a common occurrence? I'm flabbergasted .

Zombie_Affair wrote:

You mentioned that the Sheriff said it was a common occurrence? I'm flabbergasted .

Whether he was saying that so we wouldn't be pissed or if it's actually happening all the time...I'm not sure.  It wouldn't surprise me if it was common though.  usmarine pretty much summed up why it wouldn't surprise me...

usmarine2 wrote:

But, there is a reason we have "uninsured" insurance here in the US.

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usmarine2 wrote:

When it comes to jobs that are controlled by tax dollars, cops have to make decisions based on money and manpower.  I am not saying it is right, but it is what it is.  You should really blame the local politicians and the voters.

I would certainly hope my tax dollars are going towards the Police doing their job. If things were being run like that here, well, I can't even think about it. Maybe you have too many cops? Every show on TV (yeah, It's TV I know).. It seems that you have twenty squad cars for the littlest of crimes.

Zombie_Affair wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

When it comes to jobs that are controlled by tax dollars, cops have to make decisions based on money and manpower.  I am not saying it is right, but it is what it is.  You should really blame the local politicians and the voters.

I would certainly hope my tax dollars are going towards the Police doing their job. If things were being run like that here, well, I can't even think about it. Maybe you have too many cops? Every show on TV (yeah, It's TV I know).. It seems that you have twenty squad cars for the littlest of crimes.

Not enough cops tbh.  If you treated every case by the letter of the law like the one you guys are talking about, then god knows what would happen.  The cops are handcuffed by lawyers and politicians, yet have to make decisions based on the guidance from lawyers and politicians.  See the problem?

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usmarine2 wrote:

SpIk3y wrote:

Only serious crimes, like armed burglary or murder.  Putting someone in a registry for something like vandalism is silly.

well, I would say only felonies, but i think people who have had more the three DUI's should be on there also.

In Japan, if you're convicted on a DUI charge they replace your tag lights with green lights so officers know to be prepared on the next time they pull that individual .... also its humiliating


I know they would argue the whole " He has paid his debt to society (bullshit) " but I think it would be a awesome idea ie. if I get a new neighbor and he has robbed, assaulted and murdered someone, I would like to know

oh and the ACLU would have hissy fit over this

Zombie_Affair wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

well, I would say only felonies, but i think people who have had more the three DUI's should be on there also.

In Japan, if you're convicted on a DUI charge they replace your tag lights with green lights so officers know to be prepared on the next time they pull that individual .... also its humiliating


I know they would argue the whole " He has paid his debt to society (bullshit) " but I think it would be a awesome idea ie. if I get a new neighbor and he has robbed, assaulted and murdered someone, I would like to know

oh and the ACLU would have hissy fit over this

That and the licence plate idea are pretty clever. But the crime would need to be hefty to have that punishment. How long do you have to have the plates (that USMarine mentioned) or the lights (SEREMAKER mentioned) on your vehicle? Indefinitely?

from what I understand in Japan once their on, they are on for life


you would be amazed on how many little green lights go driving by on the roads

HurricaИe wrote:

I'd say a guy who killed a man is just as dangerous as a rapist.

would you really?

usmarine2 wrote:

I don't know how long.  That law has been in place since '67, but very few judges use it.  It seems the judge around here thinks its a good idea.

How long until someone gets it declared 'cruel and unusual'?

Honestly, I think it's a great idea also.  Community pressure and embarrassment can work wonders on people.

I'm going to miss the confidentiality of criminal and medical records when I move away from Denmark. I don't want people snooping in my personal affairs.

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