Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7144|Eastern PA

sergeriver wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

emos?

thats all a serial killer is. 

"I hate the world, theyre gonna pay for the pain I feel!"
Reminded me that David.P hasn't posted for abit
He's been busy trying to contact Valve to tell them how they fucked TF2.
Lulz
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6890
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=87363

Yes mods this is the most intelligent post I can come up with.
topthrill05
Member
+125|7000|Rochester NY USA

HurricaИe wrote:

Not sure if this was a knock at my thread or not; but I really do wonder why whites are usually the perpetrators of mass crime.

I've always thought that a bulk of smaller crime (mugging, etc) is done by minorities while the really sick psycho shit is done by white guys with crazy beards or mad personalities.

Just look at Kasczynski, Bundy, McVeigh, Manson. All white.
One might look at the education level between Whites and Blacks in the US.

In todays paper there was a picture of a kindergarten class in 96 that graduated this year, out of 28 kids 8 made it to graduation. While this is a totally different topic I think having a good education can at times make you a little to smart.

Some will get what I am trying to get at, some wont.
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7251|Grapevine, TX
lonely. white. man.
needs power.
gets a victim, has power.
lonely. white. man.
needs more power.
gets another victim, has power.
lonely. white. man...

endless cycle, until caught.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7093|UK

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

lonely. white. man.
needs power.
gets a victim, has power.
lonely. white. man.
needs more power.
gets another victim, has power.
lonely. white. man...

endless cycle, until caught.
doesn't answer the question why zerial killaz are nearly always white.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7251|Grapevine, TX
lonely. black. man.
needs power.
gets a victim, has power.
lonely. black. man.
needs more power.
gets another victim, has power.
lonely. black. man...

endless cycle, until caught.
Schittloaf
not fulla schit
+23|6325|MN
dill13
Member
+67|6615

Serial killers are almost always well educated. Most other races other then Caucasian do not get as good of an education(except maybe Asians specifically Japanese). Another reason why is that most people in the US/Europe are Caucasian which is where most serial killers are from. Now why you may ask do most serial killers live in the developed world maybe most of the under developed world are to busy trying to survive to carefully think murders through. I dont know how more Asians dont snap and go on killing sprees I would if I lived in that densely populated cities. Maybe its because they are very strict in those countries and they have very little free time cause most of them are hard working.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
so everyone who isnt asian or white is lazy?
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6383|Washington DC
better lazy than a serial killer
san4
The Mas
+311|7110|NYC, a place to live
Am I confused or is the answer just that most American serial killers are white because most Americans are white?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6951|Global Command

m3thod wrote:

Some more stats to chew over

    *

      The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.
    *

      Europe in second, has 17%.  England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.

    * California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured.  Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind.

    * Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none.  Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.

    *

      84% of American killers are caucasian.
    *

      16% are black.
    *

      Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.
    *

      65% of victims are female.
    *

      89% of victims are white.
    *

      44% of all killers start in their twenties.
    *

      26% start in their teens.
    * 24% start in their thirties.

    * Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

No idea about the legitmacy of the source: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/stre … _stats.htm

ps

if i ever move to the US ima gonna live in Maine.
So you think China and Russia are reporting their real numbers?

If you do, then I must make you my first victim. just email me your addy soz I can come kill you.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7144|Eastern PA

san4 wrote:

Am I confused or is the answer just that most American serial killers are white because most Americans are white?
That's a part of it, but doesn't answer why white males are overrepresented in the ranks of serial killers.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7093|UK

ATG wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Some more stats to chew over

    *

      The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.
    *

      Europe in second, has 17%.  England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.

    * California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured.  Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind.

    * Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none.  Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.

    *

      84% of American killers are caucasian.
    *

      16% are black.
    *

      Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.
    *

      65% of victims are female.
    *

      89% of victims are white.
    *

      44% of all killers start in their twenties.
    *

      26% start in their teens.
    * 24% start in their thirties.

    * Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

No idea about the legitmacy of the source: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/stre … _stats.htm

ps

if i ever move to the US ima gonna live in Maine.
So you think China and Russia are reporting their real numbers?

If you do, then I must make you my first victim. just email me your addy soz I can come kill you.
Hey i just found the source and i even put in a disclaimer

No idea about the legitmacy of the source: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/stre … _stats.htm

Don't shoot the messenger now will you...
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7138

dill13 wrote:

Serial killers are almost always well educated. Most other races other then Caucasian do not get as good of an education(except maybe Asians specifically Japanese). Another reason why is that most people in the US/Europe are Caucasian which is where most serial killers are from. Now why you may ask do most serial killers live in the developed world maybe most of the under developed world are to busy trying to survive to carefully think murders through. I dont know how more Asians dont snap and go on killing sprees I would if I lived in that densely populated cities. Maybe its because they are very strict in those countries and they have very little free time cause most of them are hard working.
Maybe because Asians care more about money? Well this is in Taiwan, if a kidnapping or a murder happens, it is always about money. People always black mail other people because of money.
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Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

dill13 wrote:

Serial killers are almost always well educated. Most other races other then Caucasian do not get as good of an education(except maybe Asians specifically Japanese). Another reason why is that most people in the US/Europe are Caucasian which is where most serial killers are from. Now why you may ask do most serial killers live in the developed world maybe most of the under developed world are to busy trying to survive to carefully think murders through. I dont know how more Asians dont snap and go on killing sprees I would if I lived in that densely populated cities. Maybe its because they are very strict in those countries and they have very little free time cause most of them are hard working.
Maybe because Asians care more about money? Well this is in Taiwan, if a kidnapping or a murder happens, it is always about money. People always black mail other people because of money.
Japan and Korea have had some creepy serial killers in recent years if memory serves me. I recall the media often trying to blame those violent, pseudo-paedophiliac manga style comic books.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7073|USA

Braddock wrote:

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Well the stats don't lie.

Approximately 9/10 serial killers are white males between the ages of 20 and 35, and cultural clichés present him as figures with a history of child abuse (possibly an over-possessive mother), petty crime, and a sexual motivation that underlies their murders. Far from being the manifestations of insanity, or irrational thought, serial killings are often patterned according to specific characteristics or conventions that grant the crimes a distinctive inherent logic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A4526129
thanks!  +1

i'm lucky i'm 37.   
Obviously this thread was started to make a point in relation to the thread about black criminals but it is quite interesting how the statistics play out. Lowing would argue that these people should have taken personal responsibility for their own lives, despite what abuse they might have suffered or how overbearing their mothers were! My main question would be why are so many people so quick to right off an entire race on the back of one set of statistics while negating the importance of a significant trend in another set of statistics when it reflects poorly on another race?
Very perceptive Braddock.......the fact is, MOST serial killers are white, I really have no idea as to why, nor could I fathom a guess, it is funny though, how saying this as a fact does not make me a racist, nor would it make a black man stating this fact a racist. Now, let me say most criminals are black, and the whole forum comes crashing down on me. lol

Here is the thing, I really do not care about stats, I do not care that most serial killers are white.I do not see in terms of race like that. I see a serial killer who needs to be put down like a fuckin' mangy dog. Blac kwhite or yellow means nothing to me..

OJ Simpson.....I did not see a black killer, I saw a killer...It was race related to the rest of the world.

Obama.... I do not see a black presidential candidate, I see a liberal who is a threat to my conservative values.

I am sorry guys, I am not a racist....I hold everyone in the same light and expect the same efforts.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:


thanks!  +1

i'm lucky i'm 37.   
Obviously this thread was started to make a point in relation to the thread about black criminals but it is quite interesting how the statistics play out. Lowing would argue that these people should have taken personal responsibility for their own lives, despite what abuse they might have suffered or how overbearing their mothers were! My main question would be why are so many people so quick to right off an entire race on the back of one set of statistics while negating the importance of a significant trend in another set of statistics when it reflects poorly on another race?
Very perceptive Braddock.......the fact is, MOST serial killers are white, I really have no idea as to why, nor could I fathom a guess, it is funny though, how saying this as a fact does not make me a racist, nor would it make a black man stating this fact a racist. Now, let me say most criminals are black, and the whole forum comes crashing down on me. lol

Here is the thing, I really do not care about stats, I do not care that most serial killers are white.I do not see in terms of race like that. I see a serial killer who needs to be put down like a fuckin' mangy dog. Blac kwhite or yellow means nothing to me..

OJ Simpson.....I did not see a black killer, I saw a killer...It was race related to the rest of the world.

Obama.... I do not see a black presidential candidate, I see a liberal who is a threat to my conservative values.

I am sorry guys, I am not a racist....I hold everyone in the same light and expect the same efforts.
No one can call you a racist for saying most criminals are black if you have the statistics to back it up and I don't recall anyone trying to do that in any of these threads. I think a lot of people inferred a level of racism from you from the way you described certain stereotypes regarding black culture and particularly black attitudes when attitudes can in fact vary greatly from individual to individual. You also seemed to automatically assume Cam was talking about black people in one post just because he mentioned the words 'ghetto' and 'shooting up' when in fact he didn't specify race at all.

I personally would bet that you're not actually racist in terms of everyday dealings with other races. You do seem to have your own assumptions about black people in general though, or at least large sections of the black community...am I wrong?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7073|USA

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Obviously this thread was started to make a point in relation to the thread about black criminals but it is quite interesting how the statistics play out. Lowing would argue that these people should have taken personal responsibility for their own lives, despite what abuse they might have suffered or how overbearing their mothers were! My main question would be why are so many people so quick to right off an entire race on the back of one set of statistics while negating the importance of a significant trend in another set of statistics when it reflects poorly on another race?
Very perceptive Braddock.......the fact is, MOST serial killers are white, I really have no idea as to why, nor could I fathom a guess, it is funny though, how saying this as a fact does not make me a racist, nor would it make a black man stating this fact a racist. Now, let me say most criminals are black, and the whole forum comes crashing down on me. lol

Here is the thing, I really do not care about stats, I do not care that most serial killers are white.I do not see in terms of race like that. I see a serial killer who needs to be put down like a fuckin' mangy dog. Blac kwhite or yellow means nothing to me..

OJ Simpson.....I did not see a black killer, I saw a killer...It was race related to the rest of the world.

Obama.... I do not see a black presidential candidate, I see a liberal who is a threat to my conservative values.

I am sorry guys, I am not a racist....I hold everyone in the same light and expect the same efforts.
No one can call you a racist for saying most criminals are black if you have the statistics to back it up and I don't recall anyone trying to do that in any of these threads. I think a lot of people inferred a level of racism from you from the way you described certain stereotypes regarding black culture and particularly black attitudes when attitudes can in fact vary greatly from individual to individual. You also seemed to automatically assume Cam was talking about black people in one post just because he mentioned the words 'ghetto' and 'shooting up' when in fact he didn't specify race at all.

I personally would bet that you're not actually racist in terms of everyday dealings with other races. You do seem to have your own assumptions about black people in general though, or at least large sections of the black community...am I wrong?
I have mirrored what Bill Cosby and others have already said, and was barated for it by the black community...This is a fact....

Of course each individual attitude varies, there are something that just should implied in a forum Braddock, and one ofthose things are, we all speak in general context, unless you are like Cam who no doubt has met every person on the planet.

I do my assuming/judging based on appearance, mannerisms, and actions..........NOT skin color........so sorry to disappoint, but yeah, you are wrong about me.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:


Very perceptive Braddock.......the fact is, MOST serial killers are white, I really have no idea as to why, nor could I fathom a guess, it is funny though, how saying this as a fact does not make me a racist, nor would it make a black man stating this fact a racist. Now, let me say most criminals are black, and the whole forum comes crashing down on me. lol

Here is the thing, I really do not care about stats, I do not care that most serial killers are white.I do not see in terms of race like that. I see a serial killer who needs to be put down like a fuckin' mangy dog. Blac kwhite or yellow means nothing to me..

OJ Simpson.....I did not see a black killer, I saw a killer...It was race related to the rest of the world.

Obama.... I do not see a black presidential candidate, I see a liberal who is a threat to my conservative values.

I am sorry guys, I am not a racist....I hold everyone in the same light and expect the same efforts.
No one can call you a racist for saying most criminals are black if you have the statistics to back it up and I don't recall anyone trying to do that in any of these threads. I think a lot of people inferred a level of racism from you from the way you described certain stereotypes regarding black culture and particularly black attitudes when attitudes can in fact vary greatly from individual to individual. You also seemed to automatically assume Cam was talking about black people in one post just because he mentioned the words 'ghetto' and 'shooting up' when in fact he didn't specify race at all.

I personally would bet that you're not actually racist in terms of everyday dealings with other races. You do seem to have your own assumptions about black people in general though, or at least large sections of the black community...am I wrong?
I have mirrored what Bill Cosby and others have already said, and was barated for it by the black community...This is a fact....

Of course each individual attitude varies, there are something that just should implied in a forum Braddock, and one ofthose things are, we all speak in general context, unless you are like Cam who no doubt has met every person on the planet.

I do my assuming/judging based on appearance, mannerisms, and actions..........NOT skin color........so sorry to disappoint, but yeah, you are wrong about me.
But lowing if you do you're assuming based on each individual's appearance, mannerisms and actions then you don't have to pay any attention to all the negative stereotypes...but yet you do, and are quite passionate about them at that.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7073|USA

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


No one can call you a racist for saying most criminals are black if you have the statistics to back it up and I don't recall anyone trying to do that in any of these threads. I think a lot of people inferred a level of racism from you from the way you described certain stereotypes regarding black culture and particularly black attitudes when attitudes can in fact vary greatly from individual to individual. You also seemed to automatically assume Cam was talking about black people in one post just because he mentioned the words 'ghetto' and 'shooting up' when in fact he didn't specify race at all.

I personally would bet that you're not actually racist in terms of everyday dealings with other races. You do seem to have your own assumptions about black people in general though, or at least large sections of the black community...am I wrong?
I have mirrored what Bill Cosby and others have already said, and was barated for it by the black community...This is a fact....

Of course each individual attitude varies, there are something that just should implied in a forum Braddock, and one ofthose things are, we all speak in general context, unless you are like Cam who no doubt has met every person on the planet.

I do my assuming/judging based on appearance, mannerisms, and actions..........NOT skin color........so sorry to disappoint, but yeah, you are wrong about me.
But lowing if you do you're assuming based on each individual's appearance, mannerisms and actions then you don't have to pay any attention to all the negative stereotypes...but yet you do, and are quite passionate about them at that.
I do not live in a cave Braddock, I actually have eyes and ears and everything..........
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

I have mirrored what Bill Cosby and others have already said, and was barated for it by the black community...This is a fact....

Of course each individual attitude varies, there are something that just should implied in a forum Braddock, and one ofthose things are, we all speak in general context, unless you are like Cam who no doubt has met every person on the planet.

I do my assuming/judging based on appearance, mannerisms, and actions..........NOT skin color........so sorry to disappoint, but yeah, you are wrong about me.
But lowing if you do you're assuming based on each individual's appearance, mannerisms and actions then you don't have to pay any attention to all the negative stereotypes...but yet you do, and are quite passionate about them at that.
I do not live in a cave Braddock, I actually have eyes and ears and everything..........
Do you judge every black person on their own merits? If so then stop worrying about stereotypes, they should never cloud your judgement.

You've already said you don't pay any heed to statistics, stop paying heed to stereotypes.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-06-24 06:25:13)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7073|USA

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


But lowing if you do you're assuming based on each individual's appearance, mannerisms and actions then you don't have to pay any attention to all the negative stereotypes...but yet you do, and are quite passionate about them at that.
I do not live in a cave Braddock, I actually have eyes and ears and everything..........
Do you judge every black person on their own merits? If so then stop worrying about stereotypes, they should never cloud your judgement.

You've already said you don't pay any heed to statistics, stop paying heed to stereotypes.
First of all, stereotypes are BASED in fact.

Second, just because I judge people based on merit does not mean GENERALLY speaking what I have said is not true. It just may not be true to the specific person in question.  Will you deny or not, what I said in my orginal post that started this whole debate?

Third. I have already shown that prominant black figures already have established the observation that I relayed in these few forums. I simply agree with them..
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6712|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

I do not live in a cave Braddock, I actually have eyes and ears and everything..........
Do you judge every black person on their own merits? If so then stop worrying about stereotypes, they should never cloud your judgement.

You've already said you don't pay any heed to statistics, stop paying heed to stereotypes.
First of all, stereotypes are BASED in fact.

Second, just because I judge people based on merit does not mean GENERALLY speaking what I have said is not true. It just may not be true to the specific person in question.  Will you deny or not, what I said in my orginal post that started this whole debate?

Third. I have already shown that prominant black figures already have established the observation that I relayed in these few forums. I simply agree with them..
Statistics are based in fact too you know. They don't just make the numbers up.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-06-24 06:43:45)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7179|Argentina

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:


I do not live in a cave Braddock, I actually have eyes and ears and everything..........
Do you judge every black person on their own merits? If so then stop worrying about stereotypes, they should never cloud your judgement.

You've already said you don't pay any heed to statistics, stop paying heed to stereotypes.
First of all, stereotypes are BASED in fact.

Second, just because I judge people based on merit does not mean GENERALLY speaking what I have said is not true. It just may not be true to the specific person in question.  Will you deny or not, what I said in my orginal post that started this whole debate?

Third. I have already shown that prominant black figures already have established the observation that I relayed in these few forums. I simply agree with them..
1-Sterotypes are shit.  They don't reflect the reality, they are a generalization of it, nothing else.

2-Deny.

3-What prominent black figures?

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