Its not about liking. Just a case whether his process is x86 or x64....
thanks, will wait 4-6 weeks, will do sme research in that time and hopefully have Vista so can FINALLY upgrade my mobo/cpu/ram.Sup wrote:
Since this is your first time using Ubuntu I'd say 32 bit. If you will like it order the 64bit later.rammunition wrote:
which should i order
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition
or
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition 64 bit
taking in mind my current OS is XP 32 bit
There are more problems with 64bit Ubuntu. It might be hard enough for him to work with 32bit. But if you recommend 64 bit...its for him to decide.=Karma-Kills= wrote:
Its not about liking. Just a case whether his process is x86 or x64....
Fair enough. Id just like to clear up with the OP in case of confusion, 32bit and 64bit are the "same" in that they are the same app, just some behind the scenes coding is different to allow you to take advantage of newer hardware. The only thing that could cause "problems" with 64bit is driver availability..Sup wrote:
There are more problems with 64bit Ubuntu. It might be hard enough for him to work with 32bit. But if you recommend 64 bit...its for him to decide.=Karma-Kills= wrote:
Its not about liking. Just a case whether his process is x86 or x64....
when i upgrade my mobo etc i might change it to 64 bit, but for now 32 will do fine, as XP 32 has worked kind of well=Karma-Kills= wrote:
Fair enough. Id just like to clear up with the OP in case of confusion, 32bit and 64bit are the "same" in that they are the same app, just some behind the scenes coding is different to allow you to take advantage of newer hardware. The only thing that could cause "problems" with 64bit is driver availability..Sup wrote:
There are more problems with 64bit Ubuntu. It might be hard enough for him to work with 32bit. But if you recommend 64 bit...its for him to decide.=Karma-Kills= wrote:
Its not about liking. Just a case whether his process is x86 or x64....
Linux is not bad... But I don't really understand the whole "windows XP is frustrating, linux is so much easier"Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I don't think you really want Linux at all. There is really, really not much reason to switch to Linux if you already have XP, especially if you are trying to game/run apps like Photoshop. At the most, dual boot.
To dual boot you partition your hard drive on to two parts, then install XP on one and Linux on the other. It allows you to pick which OS you want to use on boot.
edit: Unless you're buying Red Hat, Linux is free.
The thing about linux is.... it will work good, but you will have to set it up... a lot... especially as a newb.
Getting my 8800GTS to display any worth while resolutions took a few hours, lots of googling and a ton of different commands in the terminal...Then editing a few system files in nano (kinda like note pad...) My X-Fi sound card will still not work, even after working on it for a few days and trying all their different OSS drivers, the beta drivers, ect ect....
My printer/scanner works as a printer, but is not supported as a scanner.
Linux offers you a really powerful terminal, and you can do a lot to it...
But if you are doing it because XP was not friendly enough to you.... Well in the time you will spend learning how to set up linux, you could pretty easily learn how to fix what wasn't working in XP.
Linux does give you the cool cube...but what is the point of multiple desktops? Minimize the windows you don't want on screen....
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Ubuntu indeed gives you a good bridge between terminal lines and UI that you are used to from windows. Distro's are often based on a certain function (mulitmedia, network, tv, security, ...) so depends a bit what you want.
And ordering an ubuntu cd, even though it says it can up to 3 weeks, mine arrived in two days
And ordering an ubuntu cd, even though it says it can up to 3 weeks, mine arrived in two days
IMO windows is better for the things you want to do with your machine. I really prefer office over open office and using Photoshop and Games is just a huge PITA. Linux is a great OS if you want security or low weight, but for productivity and games, windows or even a mac is superior.
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Ubuntu.
the new opensuse is pretty damn good actually
still ubuntu 8.04 is the better OS right now for home users or small business.
Fedora 9 is also good from what i read, an improvement over the lack luster werewolf.
you can run many windows programs in WINE, although i really dont see the point because for every windows program there is usually a better open source version for general apps.
been playing TF2 in wine easily, i get about 40% less FPS though, it's still very playable in wine though
still ubuntu 8.04 is the better OS right now for home users or small business.
Fedora 9 is also good from what i read, an improvement over the lack luster werewolf.
you can run many windows programs in WINE, although i really dont see the point because for every windows program there is usually a better open source version for general apps.
been playing TF2 in wine easily, i get about 40% less FPS though, it's still very playable in wine though
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I really can't wait for you to work in a corporate IT job.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Seeing how little you seem to know about computers, and even Windows, I'd tip you not to get Linux. Even in Ubuntu, you gotta learn how to handle the command line. Stick to Windows, chances are that you'll install Ubuntu, try to run an exe, go wtf lol, and then uninstall it.
As to OP, I'd suggest not getting in to Linux. If you're looking for the learning experience, you could make it fine through Ubuntu/Fedora without stabbing yourself if you're prepared to google a lot. For your purposes though, it will be smoother to just stick with XP/Vista whenever you plan on that getting set up.
I can't comment on any other distro, but right now I'm really enjoying Ubuntu. However, I'm planning on testing a lot of them this summer in my spare time. After that I'll be able to tell you more. In my research, it seems that some of the best distros are Arch, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, and Gentoo. I can't really be opinionated, because I haven't used them. Hope you find the distro that's right for you!
I've used Ubuntu 8.04
Pretty user friendly. I like the LiveCD to test it out before making the switch on one of my low end computers. Runs pretty smooth too.
Pretty user friendly. I like the LiveCD to test it out before making the switch on one of my low end computers. Runs pretty smooth too.
Ubuntu's live CD is an amazing tool for partitioning though... makes it so easy