usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio
..when you idiots listen to Al Gore paranoia and all his hippie friends?

"Without the increase in biofuels, global wheat and maize stocks would not have declined appreciably and price increases due to other factors would have been moderate," the report said.

It added that the drive for biofuels has distorted food markets by diverting grain away from food for fuel, encouraging farmers to set aside land for its production, and sparked financial speculation on grains."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080704/ts … kusbritain



/waits for bold text from Spark yelling at me.

Last edited by usmarine2 (2008-07-04 07:43:03)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7042|London, England
And the reason more biofuel is being grown is because the price of Oil is rising, we're all fucked either way.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

And the reason more biofuel is being grown is because the price of Oil is rising
No.  This started WAY before the price of oil shot up.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249
How is this so terrible?


If you can prove global warming doesn't exist, then perhaps.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

ZombieVampire! wrote:

How is this so terrible?
taking food away from peoples mouths and forcing people to suffer and die is not terrible?
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249
Oh, please.  If we distributed food to prevent starvation it wouldn't exist.  A rise in prices just means some pork-pie rich kid won't get an extra hotdog.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6951|Global Command

usmarine2 wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

How is this so terrible?
taking food away from peoples mouths and forcing people to suffer and die is not terrible?
He doesn't understand.
It's less about caring than it is about understanding and mudslinging.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Oh, please.  If we distributed food to prevent starvation it wouldn't exist.  A rise in prices just means some pork-pie rich kid won't get an extra hotdog.
ya ok.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
the whole world is feeling it.  Werent they having food shortages and riots in egypt not too long ago?
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249
It's true.  People were starving in Africa before the bio-fuels push, but you didn't care because it wasn't useful for you to care.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6827|North Carolina

ZombieVampire! wrote:

It's true.  People were starving in Africa before the bio-fuels push, but you didn't care because it wasn't useful for you to care.
Damn straight.  Of course, it's easy to blame Al Gore for just about anything (just like blaming Muslims).

Whatever the case, producing ethanol from sugar cane is better than producing it from corn.  We should take the route that Brazil has.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

ZombieVampire! wrote:

but you didn't care because it wasn't useful for you to care.
is that right?  It seems to me there is plenty of aid from the US in Africa.  I think you are confused.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

Damn straight.  Of course, it's easy to blame Al Gore for just about anything (just like blaming Muslims).
its easier to blame bush and the repubs also.  see, two can play this game.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6827|North Carolina

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Damn straight.  Of course, it's easy to blame Al Gore for just about anything (just like blaming Muslims).
its easier to blame bush and the repubs also.  see, two can play this game.
Hey, I agree as well.  I don't like it when people toss blame around just because they're easy targets.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

Hey, I agree as well.  I don't like it when people toss blame around just because they're easy targets.
If you think TONS of people, especially college and high school kids, were not influenced by his movie, then I think you are terribly mistaken.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6765|tropical regions of london
I had to write an essay on that movie for a final in english
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

God Save the Queen wrote:

I had to write an essay on that movie for a final in english
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ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249

usmarine2 wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

but you didn't care because it wasn't useful for you to care.
is that right?  It seems to me there is plenty of aid from the US in Africa.  I think you are confused.
Plenty?  Less than the UN suggested 0.7%, and there were still plenty of Starvin' Marvins.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6827|North Carolina

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Hey, I agree as well.  I don't like it when people toss blame around just because they're easy targets.
If you think TONS of people, especially college and high school kids, were not influenced by his movie, then I think you are terribly mistaken.
Of course they were influenced.  Facts should be very influential in this discussion, and that movie was highly factual.  Of course, Gore has an agenda just like your oil financed "scientist" buddies on the other side of the global warming debate.

There are facts to support either side, but cross-referencing should be the focus in researching this topic, not trusting any one source as gospel.
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

and that movie was highly factual.
ok, enough.  I cant even talk to you anymore.  Are you kidding me?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7138

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

and that movie was highly factual.
ok, enough.  I cant even talk to you anymore.  Are you kidding me?
^^.

Al Gore doesn't swallow his own bullshit, why should we?
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6914|Connecticut

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Oh, please.  If we distributed food to prevent starvation it wouldn't exist.  A rise in prices just means some pork-pie rich kid won't get an extra hotdog.
Oh pleez my ass. I don't think you get it. Farmers can't raise poultry and cattle if the grain they fed them is being used for bio fuels and the hunt for manbearpig. That means your basic grains, meats and vegetables will raise in price as well as the cost of the fuel neded to put in trucks gas tanks to DISTRIBUTE it. Besides, food is distributed already to grocery stores.
Malloy must go
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

and that movie was highly factual.
ok, enough.  I cant even talk to you anymore.  Are you kidding me?
^^.

Al Gore doesn't swallow his own bullshit, why should we?
Very true.  They also seem to admonish the working class, telling us we have to go green and conserve, yet I do not hear a fucking word out of gore's mouth when celebs like tiger woods and celine neon have their water bills made public, and they use more water themselves then most small cities ffs.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249

deeznutz1245 wrote:

ZombieVampire! wrote:

Oh, please.  If we distributed food to prevent starvation it wouldn't exist.  A rise in prices just means some pork-pie rich kid won't get an extra hotdog.
Oh pleez my ass. I don't think you get it. Farmers can't raise poultry and cattle if the grain they fed them is being used for bio fuels and the hunt for manbearpig. That means your basic grains, meats and vegetables will raise in price as well as the cost of the fuel neded to put in trucks gas tanks to DISTRIBUTE it. Besides, food is distributed already to grocery stores.
Which results in higher food costs.

What am I not getting?
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7111|Tampa Bay Florida

usmarine2 wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

I had to write an essay on that movie for a final in english
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you have the right to say what you want about the movie, if you thought it was bullshit, put it in the essay

As far as my understanding goes, the only that the movie F'ed up on was one of the charts they presented didn't show the entire timeline or something.  But can you give more examples of how the movie was wrong?

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