Flecco
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Okay, so here I was reading time magazine, which occasionally has articles relating to computer games. I didn't expect to see coverage of South Korea's 'e-sport industry' though. What really flipped me out was the fact that the article actually treated the subject very seriously. TIME's online article is linked and quoted but it got me thinking...

Link to the online article.

Some choice quotes for those too lazy to read the whole thing.

The online article wrote:

"I don't have any hobbies," says 24-year-old Choi Yeun Sung, who arguably works longer hours at his chosen career than does South Korea's president. "I just practice as much as I can, so I will improve." Of course many parents the world over would consider Choi's career itself a hobby, but in South Korea, being a professional video-gamer is a serious business.

Gamers at Choi's level of skill can earn several hundred thousand dollars a year off their keyboard and mouse — and the adulation of the nation's twenty- and thirty somethings, especially young women.

The international competitor must have the focus of a Buddhist monk and the hand-eye coordination of a neurosurgeon in order to defeat rival combatants in contests that typically last about 20 minutes. During that time, a gamer's heart rate can race to 160 beats per minute (equivalent to that of pro basketball player), while both hands work the mouse and keyboard at speeds of about 500 clicks per minute. They may be sitting down in a chair, but the sweat that pours off them suggests they're anything but couch potatoes.

"You need absolute mind control," says Ju Hoon, head coach of SK Telecom. And like most other professional sports, pro gaming takes a physical and mental toll on players — crippling backaches, shoulder pain, headaches, tired eyes and sore wrists are par for the course, explains Hoon, a graduate in sports psychology.
The magazine article also mentioned some statistics and history on the 'industry'. The only one I can remember off the top of my head is that e-sports employs 25,000 people in Seoul.

Do you think that it is a viable industry or a passing fad brought on by the economic downturn in South Korea in the late 90s? Do you think that, to quote the article in the magazine, 'e-sports is the ultimate spectator sport'? Can the highly successful model be adapted for other countries or is the situation going to remain unique to South Korea?

Will get the magazine tomorrow and update the post with some of the more interesting things mentioned. Maybe.
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Doctor Strangelove
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I really don't see the difference between video games and sports. Both are games. Both exist solely for entertainment. Both have people who take them way to seriously.

However with video games you don't need your body to be made a certain way, there is no specific body build that you need to be good at them. Also certain video games require allot more strategy than sports.

And most importantly you'll be playing video games after highschool, unlike sports.
HurricaИe
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I'd say it's a different kind of sport, more of a mind sport rather than a physical exertion sport. Just like how some people try to legitimize chess as a sport... sure you don't have to bench 300lbs and run a mile in 5 minutes to play chess, but you have to be damned good to be a Grand Master.

And just look at YouTube videos of Guitar Hero players... they get a fair few views.

It'd be cool if it became more popular in the US... then I would have a reason to buy a sports package for digital cable when I'm on my own (I generally don't care for watching sports on TV except for the World Cup and super bowl).
Vilham
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Personally I think they should change the name to E-competition, then ppl will stop bitching either way.
usmarine2
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HurricaИe wrote:

then I would have a reason to buy a sports package for digital cable when I'm on my own
2nd best group of channels for digital cable (or SAT) next to the discovery/history channel group.  Plus, if you get in HD also.......pwn.

If you do get those channels, I highly recommend this accessory that I use.  It helps
http://www.la-z-boy.com/furniture/product.aspx?pid=5401
HurricaИe
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usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

then I would have a reason to buy a sports package for digital cable when I'm on my own
2nd best group of channels for digital cable (or SAT) next to the discovery/history channel group.  Plus, if you get in HD also.......pwn.

If you do get those channels, I highly recommend this accessory that I use.  It helps
http://www.la-z-boy.com/furniture/product.aspx?pid=5401
I've got it at both my parent's houses, cause my dad likes to watch rugby and sometimes I have friends over who wanna watch some of a game.

And yes, HD is awesome. We got our first HDTV back in '06 right around when the World Cup started... so that was pretty good timing
i g
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sure it's a sport. you are competing in a game.
usmarine2
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Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

sure it's a sport. you are competing in a game.
but on a even playing field?  not with computers.
i g
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usmarine2 wrote:

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

sure it's a sport. you are competing in a game.
but on a even playing field?  not with computers.
lans
usmarine2
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Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

sure it's a sport. you are competing in a game.
but on a even playing field?  not with computers.
lans
oh you are talking about a room of monster drinking spazoids...
i g
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usmarine2 wrote:

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:


but on a even playing field?  not with computers.
lans
oh you are talking about a room of monster drinking spazoids...
pretty much
Flaming_Maniac
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usmarine2 wrote:

Eye-GiZzLe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:


but on a even playing field?  not with computers.
lans
oh you are talking about a room of monster drinking spazoids...
No, the normal pubish stuff like pub BF2 and CoD4 is not really a sport, that's like going to play catch outside. There are probably some people who are better than others, but who the fuck cares, it's just catch.

It's really easy to play relaxed competitive game too though, like a game of flag football or pickup basketball. This summer and last I've been scrimming counterstrike with friends, and even though we suck balls, it's good fun.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

oh you are talking about a room of monster drinking spazoids...
No, the normal pubish stuff like pub BF2 and CoD4 is not really a sport, that's like going to play catch outside. There are probably some people who are better than others, but who the fuck cares, it's just catch.

It's really easy to play relaxed competitive game too though, like a game of flag football or pickup basketball. This summer and last I've been scrimming counterstrike with friends, and even though we suck balls, it's good fun.
For actual matches... Those frigging stadium things they have in Korea with sound-proofed areas for the players to play in and identical PCs etc etc.
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Flaming_Maniac
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Flecco wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

oh you are talking about a room of monster drinking spazoids...
No, the normal pubish stuff like pub BF2 and CoD4 is not really a sport, that's like going to play catch outside. There are probably some people who are better than others, but who the fuck cares, it's just catch.

It's really easy to play relaxed competitive game too though, like a game of flag football or pickup basketball. This summer and last I've been scrimming counterstrike with friends, and even though we suck balls, it's good fun.
For actual matches... Those frigging stadium things they have in Korea with sound-proofed areas for the players to play in and identical PCs etc etc.
exactly

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