HurricaИe
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So it appears Maliki (who happens to be the leader of Iraq, not Bush) wants a timetable for troop withdrawal. Call me crazy but I don't think the guy would want that unless he was somewhat certain that his nation can (at least mostly) take care of itself.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01085.html

Iraq will not accept any security agreement with the United States unless it includes dates for the withdrawal of foreign forces, the government's national security adviser said on Tuesday.

But the government's spokesman said any timetable would depend on security conditions on the ground.

The differing stances underscore the intense debate in Baghdad over a deal with Washington that will provide a legal basis for U.S. troops to operate when a U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.

On Monday, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appeared to catch Washington off-guard by suggesting for the first time that a timetable be set for the departure of U.S. forces under the deal being negotiated, which he called a memorandum of understanding.

National security adviser Mowaffaq al-Rubaie appeared to go one step further on Tuesday.

"We can't have a memorandum of understanding with foreign forces unless it has dates and clear horizons determining the departure of foreign forces. We're unambiguously talking about their departure," he said.
Nasar al-Rubaie, a senior Sadrist lawmaker, welcomed Maliki's suggestion of a timetable, saying that Iraq's armed forces could take over security duties within a year. "This is an important step in the right path," Rubaie said.
Sounds pretty clear cut. "Thanks, we'll take it from here." Why shouldn't we listen? It's not as if we'd just be leaving on our own accord; it's obvious that they want us out. This is the test. Will our leader (and/or our presidential candidates) listen to the government of Iraq? Or is pulling out not convenient with contracting interests?
THE_EYE
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U.S campaign for world domination tbh
icecold2510
Member
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I think we should listen.

We've put a new government in, now it's time to pull out.  They are even doing things on their own military wise also.

Watch at us pull out then go to war with Iran
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
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I'm calling you crazy ..................... fine if he wants us out, then so be it ............... just make sure we leave the bill on his desk
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rammunition
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+143|6283
Fuck Maliki, he is just another U.S puppet
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6899|Communist Republic of CA, USA
(3 years later)
Maliki: "Oh, hello Mr. President.  How are things?  Good, good.  Listen, uhh, you know that thing about us wanting you out and stuff.  Well the funny thing is, and you're never going to believe this, we still, uhh, kinda need you.  Yeah, the Iraqi people didn't really realize what we were getting ourselves into when we asked you to leave, so uhh, we're sorry.  Listen, if you could just send a MEU or something over, that'd be just swell... We'd really appreciate it.  Alright, well, call me back."
HurricaИe
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+877|6383|Washington DC
@SERE and MLI
Yes, I thought of that as well. But it wouldn't be like us just up and leaving like the Dems wanted a few months ago, which would quite frankly look like how we left Vietnam.

Here, the people are actually insisting on us leaving.

@Rammunition, yeah, totally, that's why he wants us to leave Iraq right?
rammunition
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+143|6283

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

(3 years later)
Maliki: "Oh, hello Mr. President.  How are things?  Good, good.  Listen, uhh, you know that thing about us wanting you out and stuff.  Well the funny thing is, and you're never going to believe this, we still, uhh, kinda need you.  Yeah, the Iraqi people didn't really realize what we were getting ourselves into when we asked you to leave, so uhh, we're sorry.  Listen, if you could just send a MEU or something over, that'd be just swell... We'd really appreciate it.  Alright, well, call me back."
LOL, you Americans think the world revolves round you, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The day the plague exits Iraq, Iraq would be reunited just as Vietnam,
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6915|N. Ireland
Timetable just ain't gonna happen. Project all you like, there will be another attack from the Taliban or what not and foreign forces will be forced to stay to protect what is left of Iraqi people and dignity. Make one all you like, but I'd be willing to bet that it won't be stuck to - not saying that's the US's fault either.
icecold2510
Member
+31|6715

rammunition wrote:

Fuck Maliki, he is just another U.S puppet
You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6899|Communist Republic of CA, USA

rammunition wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

(3 years later)
Maliki: "Oh, hello Mr. President.  How are things?  Good, good.  Listen, uhh, you know that thing about us wanting you out and stuff.  Well the funny thing is, and you're never going to believe this, we still, uhh, kinda need you.  Yeah, the Iraqi people didn't really realize what we were getting ourselves into when we asked you to leave, so uhh, we're sorry.  Listen, if you could just send a MEU or something over, that'd be just swell... We'd really appreciate it.  Alright, well, call me back."
LOL, you Americans think the world revolves round you, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The day the plague exits Iraq, Iraq would be reunited just as Vietnam,
Pretty sure the world Economy does, in fact revolve around us.  So yeah.
HurricaИe
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+877|6383|Washington DC

icecold2510 wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Fuck Maliki, he is just another U.S puppet
You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
The Red White & Blue Death?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6977

SEREMAKER wrote:

I'm calling you crazy ..................... fine if he wants us out, then so be it ............... just make sure we leave the bill on his desk
You didn't notice the sign? "You break it, you pay for it."

As for Maliki - if he is pushing for a timetable for withdrawal then why wouldn't the Americans acquiesce? Ulterior motives....?
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6899|Communist Republic of CA, USA

HurricaИe wrote:

icecold2510 wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Fuck Maliki, he is just another U.S puppet
You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
The Red White & Blue Death?
Why does it burn when I pee?
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6383|Washington DC

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

icecold2510 wrote:

You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
The Red White & Blue Death?
Why does it burn when I pee?
It's the freedom in your blood pushing the communism into your urethra to be expelled from your body.

@CamPoe, military industrial complex? It's not uncommon knowledge that Cheney was/is in kahootz with Halliburton... guess who provides food and contracting services over there...

Last edited by HurricaИe (2008-07-08 12:44:06)

SEREMAKER
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CameronPoe wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

I'm calling you crazy ..................... fine if he wants us out, then so be it ............... just make sure we leave the bill on his desk
You didn't notice the sign? "You break it, you pay for it."
they must have changed that policy ............. it was " Destroyed in under 30 mins or its free"
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Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6963|Texas - Bigger than France

CameronPoe wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

I'm calling you crazy ..................... fine if he wants us out, then so be it ............... just make sure we leave the bill on his desk
You didn't notice the sign? "You break it, you pay for it."

As for Maliki - if he is pushing for a timetable for withdrawal then why wouldn't the Americans acquiesce? Ulterior motives....?
You think Iraq is ready right now?
imortal
Member
+240|7086|Austin, TX

HurricaИe wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


The Red White & Blue Death?
Why does it burn when I pee?
It's the freedom in your blood pushing the communism into your urethra to be expelled from your body.

@CamPoe, military industrial complex? It's not uncommon knowledge that Cheney was/is in kahootz with Halliburton... guess who provides food and contracting services over there...
Yeah, that took a whole bunch of figuring, as one of two companies in the world that conduct operations in military areas to support troops, and the only american company at that.  Brown and Root, which was bought by Kellogg (which became KBR), then became a subsidiary of Halliburton, has been providing support to the US military in hazardous areas at least as far back as 1996, in Bosnia.  Why does everyone still drool over this?
CameronPoe
Member
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Pug wrote:

You think Iraq is ready right now?
How much longer will it take? The US ploughed in an extra 30,000 troops and managed to get violence down to slightly above 2004 levels. Can your country afford to continue this money vacuum of a mission? The global recession is in the post.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-08 12:54:44)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7111|Tampa Bay Florida

icecold2510 wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Fuck Maliki, he is just another U.S puppet
You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
Airstrip one
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7106|United States of America

Spearhead wrote:

icecold2510 wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Fuck Maliki, he is just another U.S puppet
You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
Airstrip one
https://www.worldstadiums.com/oceania/maps/oceania.gif
They're planning something. You don't think he gave it the same name out of conicidence, do you?

On topic though, I say put something down on paper, Georgy boy.

Last edited by DesertFox- (2008-07-08 13:07:17)

icecold2510
Member
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DesertFox- wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

icecold2510 wrote:


You might want to get out of the UK, they are our allies.

The UK will contract the virus that is America!
Airstrip one
http://www.worldstadiums.com/oceania/maps/oceania.gif
They're planning something. You don't think he gave it the same name out of conicidence, do you?

On topic though, I say put something down on paper, Georgy boy.
I don't understand the last two posts
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7111|Tampa Bay Florida

icecold2510 wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

Spearhead wrote:


Airstrip one
http://www.worldstadiums.com/oceania/maps/oceania.gif
They're planning something. You don't think he gave it the same name out of conicidence, do you?

On topic though, I say put something down on paper, Georgy boy.
I don't understand the last two posts
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Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7068
Timetables are nothing more than a political gimmick. People want certainty in uncertain times.

They should be more concerned with achieving goals and bench marks and evaluating whats realistic and what isn't.(run-on-sentences are fun sometimes)

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