I remember reading that an EMP missile was used on an Iraqi communications building in 03, not sure if its true like.HurricaИe wrote:
If they started sinking our ships, Iran would be a crater.
We've got MOABs, we've got daisy cutters, we've probably got tactical nukes, and I wouldn't be surprised if we even had neutron or EMP bombs.
Same for the CIWS, never saw combat, never shot down any incoming missile.. in fact the only thing it did is damage a friendly!icecold2510 wrote:
It hasn't been proven in combat. So you can't be so sure about it. Just because it is said to do something doesn't mean it can.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Because it was designed for it.icecold2510 wrote:
What makes you so sure the Sunburn can take out a ship? Just because it flies at Mach 2 or 3?
http://www.missilethreat.com/cruise/id. … detail.asp
Saddam surely said that the mother of all battles has begun and he will teach NATO forces a lesson. Look what happened to the fourth largest army in the world during the Gulf War.
If the missile would be proven in combat, then maybe I'd believe the hype about it.
"June 4, 1996, a Japanese Phalanx accidentally shot down a US A-6 Intruder. The US plane was towing a radar target during gunnery exercises. A Phalanx aboard the Asagiri class destroyer Yūgiri locked onto the Intruder instead of the target. Both pilots ejected safely.[4] A post accident investigation concluded that the Yūgiri's gunnery officer gave the order to fire before the A-6 was out of the CIWS engagement envelope."
and before that:
"On February 25, 1991, during the first Gulf War, the Phalanx-equipped USS Jarrett was a few miles from the USS Missouri and the British destroyer HMS Gloucester. A Sea Dart missile launched from Gloucester destroyed an Iraqi Silkworm missile (often referred to as the 'Seersucker'), at which Missouri also fired its SRBOC chaff. The Phalanx system on Jarrett, operating in the automatic target-acquisition mode, fixed upon Missouri's chaff and fired a burst of rounds. From this burst, four rounds hit Missouri which was two to three miles (about 5 km) from Jarrett at the time. There were no injuries"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS
And Saddam army was already broken from years of sanctions and bombs.. Iraqi soldiers didnt want to fight.. Iran is another story.. again i'm not saying Iran can win a war against the US, all i'm saying is watch for the missiles.
your ignorance on military matters is comedic.
QFT!God Save the Queen wrote:
your ignorance on military matters is comedic.
Supposedly in Desert Storm we used these weapons that deployed some sort of fibrous material that would disrupt electrical connections. Just drop it on a substation, boom sparks and shit, and the power is out.M.O.A.B wrote:
I remember reading that an EMP missile was used on an Iraqi communications building in 03, not sure if its true like.HurricaИe wrote:
If they started sinking our ships, Iran would be a crater.
We've got MOABs, we've got daisy cutters, we've probably got tactical nukes, and I wouldn't be surprised if we even had neutron or EMP bombs.
And sure Iran has the Sunburn missile, but we have Tomahawk missiles that can be loaded with nuclear warheads (low-yield, at least compared to a Trident missile)
Iron filings I think, or sort of little tin strips confuse electrical signals or somat.HurricaИe wrote:
Supposedly in Desert Storm we used these weapons that deployed some sort of fibrous material that would disrupt electrical connections. Just drop it on a substation, boom sparks and shit, and the power is out.M.O.A.B wrote:
I remember reading that an EMP missile was used on an Iraqi communications building in 03, not sure if its true like.HurricaИe wrote:
If they started sinking our ships, Iran would be a crater.
We've got MOABs, we've got daisy cutters, we've probably got tactical nukes, and I wouldn't be surprised if we even had neutron or EMP bombs.
And sure Iran has the Sunburn missile, but we have Tomahawk missiles that can be loaded with nuclear warheads (low-yield, at least compared to a Trident missile)
Is this directed at me?God Save the Queen wrote:
your ignorance on military matters is comedic.
Yep MOAB that was it. Pretty low-tech tbh, but effective. Nothing fancy, it just has to short out / overload the electrical systems.
what do you thinkAutralianChainsaw wrote:
Is this directed at me?God Save the Queen wrote:
your ignorance on military matters is comedic.
It is a 5 page thread, i'm not the only guy posting in it..God Save the Queen wrote:
what do you thinkAutralianChainsaw wrote:
Is this directed at me?God Save the Queen wrote:
your ignorance on military matters is comedic.
may i ask, If 3 U.S navy ships were scared of 5-6- Iranians speedboats a few months ago what's going to happen when the Iranians launch their full might????
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rammunition wrote:
may i ask, If 3 U.S navy ships were scared of 5-6- Iranians speedboats a few months ago what's going to happen when the Iranians launch their full might????
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But on a smaller scale. You can go home now.
edit: If Wikipedia is right and the trident's payload is like the Peacekeeper's each one of those streaks in the first picture is equivalent to 25 Hiroshima bombs
edit2: I actually don't want war with Iran, but I'm just pointing out what we're capable of (much like how you're pointing out what Iran is capable of).
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Funny how you talk about nuking a country like it is nothing.
You are the reason why i will always be on the side of the enemies of the USA and israel.
edit: Afer seeing you edit#2, i retract my statement.. YOU are not the reason why i side with the enemies of the USA.. only the ones who wish and dream about a nuclear attack on Iran.
You are the reason why i will always be on the side of the enemies of the USA and israel.
edit: Afer seeing you edit#2, i retract my statement.. YOU are not the reason why i side with the enemies of the USA.. only the ones who wish and dream about a nuclear attack on Iran.
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Then why all this faith in their missiles when it hasn't been proven in combat. It can fail, just like the CIWS. Nobody knows if it can defeat the ships' defenses.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Same for the CIWS, never saw combat, never shot down any incoming missile.. in fact the only thing it did is damage a friendly!
And Saddam army was already broken from years of sanctions and bombs.. Iraqi soldiers didnt want to fight.. Iran is another story.. again i'm not saying Iran can win a war against the US, all i'm saying is watch for the missiles.
Then why did they even fight? He had them lined up on the Kuwait,Iraq/Saudi Arabia border. They had good defenses set up but superior technology defeated them. The Iranian president is doing the same thing. Beefing up his military by words, saying they can defeat America's military.
Lol? Scared? More like warning them off so they don't get in any confrontation with them. Nice try.rammunition wrote:
may i ask, If 3 U.S navy ships were scared of 5-6- Iranians speedboats a few months ago what's going to happen when the Iranians launch their full might????
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm talking about using tactical nuclear weaponry, not strategic nuclear weaponry.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Funny how you talk about nuking a country like it is nothing.
You are the reason why i will always be on the side of the enemies of the USA and israel.
And likewise to you and your pal ramm, "funny how you talk about destroying ships and the deaths of sailors like it is nothing."
edit: Good to see that's cleared up. Like I said, I don't want war with Iran... frankly it'd be nice if we never needed any war
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Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.icecold2510 wrote:
Then why all this faith in their missiles when it hasn't been proven in combat. It can fail, just like the CIWS. Nobody knows if it can defeat the ships' defenses.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Same for the CIWS, never saw combat, never shot down any incoming missile.. in fact the only thing it did is damage a friendly!
And Saddam army was already broken from years of sanctions and bombs.. Iraqi soldiers didnt want to fight.. Iran is another story.. again i'm not saying Iran can win a war against the US, all i'm saying is watch for the missiles.
Then why did they even fight? He had them lined up on the Kuwait,Iraq/Saudi Arabia border. They had good defenses set up but superior technology defeated them. The Iranian president is doing the same thing. Beefing up his military by words, saying they can defeat America's military.
and you are the reason why America doesnt care about what the world thinks of it.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Funny how you talk about nuking a country like it is nothing.
You are the reason why i will always be on the side of the enemies of the USA and israel.
Ok , whatever.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.icecold2510 wrote:
Then why all this faith in their missiles when it hasn't been proven in combat. It can fail, just like the CIWS. Nobody knows if it can defeat the ships' defenses.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Same for the CIWS, never saw combat, never shot down any incoming missile.. in fact the only thing it did is damage a friendly!
And Saddam army was already broken from years of sanctions and bombs.. Iraqi soldiers didnt want to fight.. Iran is another story.. again i'm not saying Iran can win a war against the US, all i'm saying is watch for the missiles.
Then why did they even fight? He had them lined up on the Kuwait,Iraq/Saudi Arabia border. They had good defenses set up but superior technology defeated them. The Iranian president is doing the same thing. Beefing up his military by words, saying they can defeat America's military.
I still won't believe any bullshit Iran says about their military until either Israel or the US goes to war with them.
I hope America attacks Iran, so they get into a recession, billions if not trillions of dollars more in debt and hopefully this will be the final chapter in the history of America, they are biting moe than they can chew. India/China ill become bigger super powers than the U.S in 10 years so we are safeicecold2510 wrote:
Ok , whatever.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.icecold2510 wrote:
Then why all this faith in their missiles when it hasn't been proven in combat. It can fail, just like the CIWS. Nobody knows if it can defeat the ships' defenses.
Then why did they even fight? He had them lined up on the Kuwait,Iraq/Saudi Arabia border. They had good defenses set up but superior technology defeated them. The Iranian president is doing the same thing. Beefing up his military by words, saying they can defeat America's military.
I still won't believe any bullshit Iran says about their military until either Israel or the US goes to war with them.
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dont hold your breath kid.rammunition wrote:
I hope America attacks Iran, so they get into a recession, billions if not trillions of dollars more in debt and hopefully this will be the final chapter in the history of America, they are biting moe than they can chew. India/China ill become bigger super powers than the U.S in 10 years so we are safeicecold2510 wrote:
Ok , whatever.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.
I still won't believe any bullshit Iran says about their military until either Israel or the US goes to war with them.
we will be here for a LONG fucking time, just for you to hate
edit:
oh and
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rammunition, who are you?
Ah yes, Chinese rule over ze world!rammunition wrote:
I hope America attacks Iran, so they get into a recession, billions if not trillions of dollars more in debt and hopefully this will be the final chapter in the history of America, they are biting moe than they can chew. India/China ill become bigger super powers than the U.S in 10 years so we are safeicecold2510 wrote:
Ok , whatever.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.
I still won't believe any bullshit Iran says about their military until either Israel or the US goes to war with them.
You really think the world would be safer if the US disappeared and China took over as the mainstream superpower?
So you want people to die and the world's economy to collapse because.........................................................................................................?rammunition wrote:
I hope America attacks Iran, so they get into a recession, billions if not trillions of dollars more in debt and hopefully this will be the final chapter in the history of America, they are biting moe than they can chew. India/China ill become bigger super powers than the U.S in 10 years so we are safeicecold2510 wrote:
Ok , whatever.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.
I still won't believe any bullshit Iran says about their military until either Israel or the US goes to war with them.
Last edited by DoctaStrangelove (2008-07-09 13:01:38)
you've never explained why you hate the US so muchrammunition wrote:
I hope America attacks Iran, so they get into a recession, billions if not trillions of dollars more in debt and hopefully this will be the final chapter in the history of America, they are biting moe than they can chew. India/China ill become bigger super powers than the U.S in 10 years so we are safeicecold2510 wrote:
Ok , whatever.AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Remember how Hezbollah was able to almost sink an Israeli warship with a single missile? Iran have thousands of different kind of missile.
I still won't believe any bullshit Iran says about their military until either Israel or the US goes to war with them.
Seriously, what the fuck did I or Docta or any American here do to you?