_Dominiko_PL
TITS or gtfo.
+97|6790|Polish state of EU
Hi! I have 'clean' hard drive, WD SATA II 320GB. I have new pc, but when i want to install vista on it it says that it cant find any hard drives. But the hd in BIOS is visible. Please help, Im depressed. Do i need to install some drivers? I can only find drivers for RAID... btw my chipset is AMD790FX

ah and my mobo is GA-MA790FX-DS5

Last edited by _Dominiko_PL (2008-07-10 12:45:01)

steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6650|the land of bourbon
yes you need the drivers for your sata controller.  they are small, will fit on a floppy, and you press f6 when you first boot off the cd.  then you can load the drivers.  pain in the ass, but necessary unfortunately.
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kylef
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+1,352|6762|N. Ireland
This happened to me the first time I reformatted and installed Vista. In your BIOS there should be a hard drive priority list somewhere ... make sure RAID is 1st with any other drivers after that.

Edit:
This is assuming that you have already got the drives in RAID mode, yes?

Last edited by kylef (2008-07-10 13:27:11)

menzo
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kylef wrote:

This happened to me the first time I reformatted and installed Vista. In your BIOS there should be a hard drive priority list somewhere ... make sure RAID is 1st with any other drivers after that.

Edit:
This is assuming that you have already got the drives in RAID mode, yes?
I think he dos not want raid, but when he tries to install vista,  the installer can't see his HDD.

but check in the bios if the HDD is top priority.
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RandomSchl
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steelie34 wrote:

yes you need the drivers for your sata controller.  they are small, will fit on a floppy, and you press f6 when you first boot off the cd.  then you can load the drivers.  pain in the ass, but necessary unfortunately.
R u serious?? I lol'd.
bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6581

steelie34 wrote:

yes you need the drivers for your sata controller.  they are small, will fit on a floppy, and you press f6 when you first boot off the cd.  then you can load the drivers.  pain in the ass, but necessary unfortunately.
Sorry to butt in ... where would I find said drivers? I need them for my RAID set up in case I have to reformat.
_Dominiko_PL
TITS or gtfo.
+97|6790|Polish state of EU
No, i have one HDD, i dont want any RAID. I dont have also floppy... cant i put those drivers on pendrive? Can you find it somewhere? I find it extremely difficult, dunno why
Agent_Dung_Bomb
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+302|7005|Salt Lake City

You shouldn't need drivers for the sata controller if you aren't in RAID.  As noted, double-check your BIOS settings for the drive and boot priority, and that your controller is not set to RAID mode.  Also, some boards have a specific sata connector they want the boot drive to be connected to.
Defiance
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RandomSchl wrote:

steelie34 wrote:

yes you need the drivers for your sata controller.  they are small, will fit on a floppy, and you press f6 when you first boot off the cd.  then you can load the drivers.  pain in the ass, but necessary unfortunately.
R u serious?? I lol'd.
I'm going to try and not be pretentious and elitist about being able to type "Are" and "You" but ignoring that agonizingly painful bit of text to read, what the hell is funny about it fitting on a floppy?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

Defiance wrote:

RandomSchl wrote:

steelie34 wrote:

yes you need the drivers for your sata controller.  they are small, will fit on a floppy, and you press f6 when you first boot off the cd.  then you can load the drivers.  pain in the ass, but necessary unfortunately.
R u serious?? I lol'd.
I'm going to try and not be pretentious and elitist about being able to type "Are" and "You" but ignoring that agonizingly painful bit of text to read, what the hell is funny about it fitting on a floppy?
What Defiance said. In the XP install, you are forced to use a floppy to get RAID drivers.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
_Dominiko_PL
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+97|6790|Polish state of EU
I checked everything 10 times... all BIOS setup's are correct. But still nothing. I posted this problem on techsupportforum.com maybe they will help me
steelie34
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+603|6650|the land of bourbon

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

You shouldn't need drivers for the sata controller if you aren't in RAID.  As noted, double-check your BIOS settings for the drive and boot priority, and that your controller is not set to RAID mode.  Also, some boards have a specific sata connector they want the boot drive to be connected to.
usually you dont, but lately it seems like more and more sata controllers need drivers, regardless of raid.  and if a controller is raid capable, it will most likely need drivers regardless of whether or not you are using it.  for example, we just received 30 new dell gx745's for our staff, and i had to use the sata drivers when i imaged them even though we dont have raid in the desktops.

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-07-10 16:21:21)

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kylef
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I don't get why you need special RAID drivers, I never needed any of this and most new motherboards have a RAID controller built in ... all I did was set it up using the RAID utility, configure the boot priority so RAID was the "primary drive" and then Vista saw it and I could install Vista fine. (Ultimate in <30 minutes at that!)
steelie34
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+603|6650|the land of bourbon

kylef wrote:

I don't get why you need special RAID drivers, I never needed any of this and most new motherboards have a RAID controller built in ... all I did was set it up using the RAID utility, configure the boot priority so RAID was the "primary drive" and then Vista saw it and I could install Vista fine. (Ultimate in <30 minutes at that!)
yeah, like i said above, not all mobos need the drivers.  vista has support for some, but definitely not the majority of systems out there.  i'm sure that will come with time, but if you have an older vista release, or a newer mobo, chances are you'll have to do the driver deal.
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steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6650|the land of bourbon

_Dominiko_PL wrote:

I checked everything 10 times... all BIOS setup's are correct. But still nothing. I posted this problem on techsupportforum.com maybe they will help me
i found the driver you need on gigabyte's website based on the mobo model number in your op.
on this page, there is a download (last one on the page) with this description:

"AMD SATA RAID Driver (Preinstall driver, press F6 during Windows* setup to read from floppy) O.S. : Windows Vista x86 (32-bit),Windows Vista x64 (64-bit)"

dont be mislead by the description... it says raid because your controller supports raid, but it doesnt mean you are or have to use raid, its just the driver for your raid-capable controller.

download that file - direct download link

once you extract the files from the download, copy them onto a floppy disk, and when you boot from the windows CD, one of the first blue screens you'll see is one that says "press f6 to install third party drivers."  press f6, insert the floppy, select the driver, and hit enter.  even if it says "windows has a newer driver blah blah," ignore the message and make sure you tell it to use the driver on the floppy anyway.  then it will load the driver, see your hard drive, and complete the install. 

i've done many vista installs lately, so i'm getting to be a grizzled veteran... if you have any questions, post em.  good luck

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-07-10 16:31:06)

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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
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steelie34 wrote:

... floppy disk ... first blue screens ... press f6 ...
What Vista installer are you running?

Put in DVD, wait for setup, use mouse to click on Have Disk and choose your USB Drive when it asks. No mashing and panic and "did it see it?" like in XP.


Also I don't know what's with your uber fancy mobos, but all the ones I've been getting in have the option in BIOS to change the SATA controller to imitate IDE, and fuck off needing a controller driver. Performance isn't limited, its just how the motherboard reports the drive.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
steelie34
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+603|6650|the land of bourbon

Cheez wrote:

steelie34 wrote:

... floppy disk ... first blue screens ... press f6 ...
What Vista installer are you running?

Put in DVD, wait for setup, use mouse to click on Have Disk and choose your USB Drive when it asks. No mashing and panic and "did it see it?" like in XP.


Also I don't know what's with your uber fancy mobos, but all the ones I've been getting in have the option in BIOS to change the SATA controller to imitate IDE, and fuck off needing a controller driver. Performance isn't limited, its just how the motherboard reports the drive.
dude, have you ever done a clean install booting from the dvd from the bios?  what you are talking about is just putting in the dvd while you are running inside windows and waiting for the pretty little gui to come up.  that is not the same as what he is trying to do.  he isnt upgraded or installing over top the old windows, he is doing a cleeean install, format and everything, which can only be done while booting directly from the cd, and providing the proper drivers.

and the help i provided is directly from his mobo manufacturer.  i literally just imaged 30 brand new machines with vista.  im pretty sure i know what im doin.  the pre-setup boot environment will most likely not have drivers that can run his sata controller.  without that driver, the system will not see the hard drive.  no hard drive, no windows.  and remember, not all mobos are the same... some might not need a driver, but most do.  im not trying to be a prick, but its annoying when i gave the dude the proper answer and people just make it more confusing.

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-07-10 21:07:53)

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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6707|King Of The Islands

And I am telling you Vista's install has a GUI.

Boot from DVD =
https://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/454/how_to_vista_11.jpg

You may have some Volume License install, which is not what he will experience. That or you're describing XP install (brilliantly).
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
_Dominiko_PL
TITS or gtfo.
+97|6790|Polish state of EU

Cheez wrote:

And I am telling you Vista's install has a GUI.

Boot from DVD =
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/revi … sta_11.jpg

You may have some Volume License install, which is not what he will experience. That or you're describing XP install (brilliantly).
Unfortunately i cant get to this screen. First, there is a menu 'choose os language, your time and keyboard language'. something like that. I press OK or NEXt, nvrmnd, and i have 'install windows', 'repair' and 'what you nedd to know before installing'. When i click 'instal windows' there just plain background for a sec or two and this nightmare window: "windows could get any information about hard drives'. I dont even have an option to select drivers... i also dont get 'press f6 to install 3rd party drivers' when booting... damn it. I dont know if its important, but this drive isnt clean. There has never been any OS, but it contains about 20gb of junk files. help
kylef
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Are you sure RAID is set up?
menzo
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kylef wrote:

Are you sure RAID is set up?
He does not want any RAID
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steelie34
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+603|6650|the land of bourbon

Cheez wrote:

And I am telling you Vista's install has a GUI.

Boot from DVD =
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/revi … sta_11.jpg

You may have some Volume License install, which is not what he will experience. That or you're describing XP install (brilliantly).
interesting... we must have wildly different vista releases, my installer was a vista 64 bit ultimate volume license, but i get the traditional install screens.  leave it to microsoft to make things easy it sounds like dominiko has as even different installer.
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_Dominiko_PL
TITS or gtfo.
+97|6790|Polish state of EU
problem resolved - partly. I put HDD on my old PC and format it, now its ok. But here is another problem - i need drivers for my Western Digital WD3200KS Caviar SE16 SATAII . I searched for them on WD site, but i find only diagnostic tools or sth like that. Please help
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6762|N. Ireland

_Dominiko_PL wrote:

problem resolved - partly. I put HDD on my old PC and format it, now its ok. But here is another problem - i need drivers for my Western Digital WD3200KS Caviar SE16 SATAII . I searched for them on WD site, but i find only diagnostic tools or sth like that. Please help
You don't need drivers for a hard drive ..
Agent_Dung_Bomb
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_Dominiko_PL wrote:

problem resolved - partly. I put HDD on my old PC and format it, now its ok. But here is another problem - i need drivers for my Western Digital WD3200KS Caviar SE16 SATAII . I searched for them on WD site, but i find only diagnostic tools or sth like that. Please help
Once Windows is installed, you should be able to make the drive visible by enabling it in the drive management.

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