.Sup
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HD 4870X2 R700 launch 12 august, scores X6920

Price...









































...500€


According to some recent AMD documents, in just about one month, on August 12, the performance crown will again switch owners and move from Santa Clara to Sunnyvale. Yes August 12 is the debut day of the Radeon HD 4870 X2 aka R700 aka Spartan graphics card.

Featuring two RV770 chips on one PCB, the R700 will offer the power of 1600 Stream Processors and 2GB of GDDR5 memory plus a 2 x 256-bit memory interface, DirectX 10.1 support, PCI-Express 2.0 connectivity, UVD 2 (Unified Video Decoder) and CrossFireX. The latest reports put the Radeon HD 4870 X2 in the $500+ price zone so we hope you saved quite a few (Euro) cents in these last few months.
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Scorpion0x17
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.Sup wrote:

HD 4870X2 R700 launch 12 august, scores X6920

Price...
...500€


According to some recent AMD documents, in just about one month, on August 12, the performance crown will again switch owners and move from Santa Clara to Sunnyvale. Yes August 12 is the debut day of the Radeon HD 4870 X2 aka R700 aka Spartan graphics card.

Featuring two RV770 chips on one PCB, the R700 will offer the power of 1600 Stream Processors and 2GB of GDDR5 memory plus a 2 x 256-bit memory interface, DirectX 10.1 support, PCI-Express 2.0 connectivity, UVD 2 (Unified Video Decoder) and CrossFireX. The latest reports put the Radeon HD 4870 X2 in the $500+ price zone so we hope you saved quite a few (Euro) cents in these last few months.
Source?
Bell
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Question:  I assume then if you get the 2GB card you need a 64bit OS and probably 4GB of RAM?

Martyn
.Sup
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

HD 4870X2 R700 launch 12 august, scores X6920

Price...
...500€


According to some recent AMD documents, in just about one month, on August 12, the performance crown will again switch owners and move from Santa Clara to Sunnyvale. Yes August 12 is the debut day of the Radeon HD 4870 X2 aka R700 aka Spartan graphics card.

Featuring two RV770 chips on one PCB, the R700 will offer the power of 1600 Stream Processors and 2GB of GDDR5 memory plus a 2 x 256-bit memory interface, DirectX 10.1 support, PCI-Express 2.0 connectivity, UVD 2 (Unified Video Decoder) and CrossFireX. The latest reports put the Radeon HD 4870 X2 in the $500+ price zone so we hope you saved quite a few (Euro) cents in these last few months.
Source?
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php? … mp;catid=2





Why do you say so Haggis Martyn?
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Bell
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Buddy of mine is a beta tester for ATi/AMD which for the last two year's hasnt been that impressive, but he got a 4850 early, and has hinted at these X2s and he mentioned it to me, I also read this:

Well, if I've understood everything so far then the 4870X2 is only really suited to those running a 64 bit OS with 4GB RAM, due to the fact that in case the 2GB on the R700 it maps into system memory ie the old 4Gb really gives you 3.25Gb in XP.
Martyn
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Bell wrote:

Buddy of mine is a beta tester for ATi/AMD which for the last two year's hasnt been that impressive, but he got a 4850 early, and has hinted at these X2s and he mentioned it to me, I also read this:

Well, if I've understood everything so far then the 4870X2 is only really suited to those running a 64 bit OS with 4GB RAM, due to the fact that in case the 2GB on the R700 it maps into system memory ie the old 4Gb really gives you 3.25Gb in XP.
Martyn
But I still don't understand why 64bit OS? And does that mean 2x4870 1GB is worth getting if you don't have 4 GBs? Hope not, cos I really wanted to get either those 1GB cards or the X2.
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Bell
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.Sup wrote:

Bell wrote:

Buddy of mine is a beta tester for ATi/AMD which for the last two year's hasnt been that impressive, but he got a 4850 early, and has hinted at these X2s and he mentioned it to me, I also read this:

Well, if I've understood everything so far then the 4870X2 is only really suited to those running a 64 bit OS with 4GB RAM, due to the fact that in case the 2GB on the R700 it maps into system memory ie the old 4Gb really gives you 3.25Gb in XP.
Martyn
But I still don't understand why 64bit OS? And does that mean 2x4870 1GB is worth getting if you don't have 4 GBs? Hope not, cos I really wanted to get either those 1GB cards or the X2.
I think it means that if it's a 2GB video card, and you only have an OS capable of 3.25GB, then you only actually have 1.25GB of RAM available for tasks.

Atleast I think it is something along those lines, I keep reading people touting the same thing and talking about having to get a 64bit OS with it, so this is the conclusion I draw.  Never have read into this sort of stuff (system memory) it doesnt really interest me

Martyn
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.Sup wrote:

Bell wrote:

Buddy of mine is a beta tester for ATi/AMD which for the last two year's hasnt been that impressive, but he got a 4850 early, and has hinted at these X2s and he mentioned it to me, I also read this:

Well, if I've understood everything so far then the 4870X2 is only really suited to those running a 64 bit OS with 4GB RAM, due to the fact that in case the 2GB on the R700 it maps into system memory ie the old 4Gb really gives you 3.25Gb in XP.
Martyn
But I still don't understand why 64bit OS? And does that mean 2x4870 1GB is worth getting if you don't have 4 GBs? Hope not, cos I really wanted to get either those 1GB cards or the X2.
64bit OS because 32bit OS can't access more than 4GB.
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Bell wrote:

Buddy of mine is a beta tester for ATi/AMD which for the last two year's hasnt been that impressive, but he got a 4850 early, and has hinted at these X2s and he mentioned it to me, I also read this:


Martyn
But I still don't understand why 64bit OS? And does that mean 2x4870 1GB is worth getting if you don't have 4 GBs? Hope not, cos I really wanted to get either those 1GB cards or the X2.
64bit OS because 32bit OS can't access more than 4GB.
But Martyn didn't say you need MORE than 4GBs of ram. As far as I understood him you need at least 4Gb so the problem is the missing 0.75GBs that you can't get in Xp.
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.Sup wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

.Sup wrote:


But I still don't understand why 64bit OS? And does that mean 2x4870 1GB is worth getting if you don't have 4 GBs? Hope not, cos I really wanted to get either those 1GB cards or the X2.
64bit OS because 32bit OS can't access more than 4GB.
But Martyn didn't say you need MORE than 4GBs of ram. As far as I understood him you need at least 4Gb so the problem is the missing 0.75GBs that you can't get in Xp.
2GB system RAM + 2GB video RAM = 4GB total RAM.
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

In the army now....

Basic training going on. Combat training starts next week. And shooting with live ammo. <3
Good Luck Man!
.Sup
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CrazeD wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


64bit OS because 32bit OS can't access more than 4GB.
But Martyn didn't say you need MORE than 4GBs of ram. As far as I understood him you need at least 4Gb so the problem is the missing 0.75GBs that you can't get in Xp.
2GB system RAM + 2GB video RAM = 4GB total RAM.
4GB of ram is not "more than 4GB".
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.Sup
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ATI, graphics product group of Advanced Micro Devices, said that it would release two versions of its high-end dual-chip ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 graphics cards to target different market segments. In addition, the company said, it is testing 8-way multi-GPU technology, but has no immediate plans to release the technology commercially.


"The HD 4870 X2 is going to be available in August. There will be two different flavors for that, available at different price points," said Chris Hook, head of desktop platform PR and performance communication, in an interview with Techtree web-site.

Currently little is known about the specifications of the different ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 flavours, but a natural guess would be to expect different memory configurations on two boards. This will allow ATI to address customers with different budgets and be a little more flexible in terms of costs.

In addition, representative of AMD indicated that the company had begun playing with 8-way multi-GPU technology, but did not say when it plans to make such technology available for consumers.

"As an aside, AMD has already built a computer that has four 4870 X2s in it. So it has eight GPUs; drivers will not be supporting eight GPUs at this point of time," Mr. Hook said.

Potentially, eight graphics processing units may offer extreme performance and quality, however, given that virtually all games are rendered using alternate frame rendering mode (the mode when each graphics chips render their own frames in parralel, which has a number of drawbacks, one of which is freezing) in multi-GPU environments, the actual potential of 8-way multi-GPU graphics sub-system may never be demonstrated in real-world video-games (which frequently require results of the previous frame to render the next one).
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.Sup wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

.Sup wrote:

But Martyn didn't say you need MORE than 4GBs of ram. As far as I understood him you need at least 4Gb so the problem is the missing 0.75GBs that you can't get in Xp.
2GB system RAM + 2GB video RAM = 4GB total RAM.
4GB of ram is not "more than 4GB".
1. "At least 4GB" implies "more than 4GB".
2. There is no such "missing 0.75GBs that you can't get in XP".
3. I can't wait 'till we all move over to 64bit, then we'll have no more of these types of stupid discussions where two or more people who don't know what they're talking about, argue over something where none of them knows what they're talking about. If you know what I'm talking about.

OH, and I think Martyn is most probably right:

Bell wrote:

I think it means that if it's a 2GB video card, and you only have an OS capable of 3.25GB, then you only actually have 1.25GB of RAM available for tasks.

Atleast I think it is something along those lines, I keep reading people touting the same thing and talking about having to get a 64bit OS with it, so this is the conclusion I draw.  Never have read into this sort of stuff (system memory) it doesnt really interest me

Martyn
(except, it's not the OS that means you get 3.25GB (or then 1.25), it's the BIOS)

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