BF2S Forums Overstating Our Fears

I wiill agree with that. I've not witnessed any people be affected in their day-to-day life by the threat of terrorism. Supposedly, our threat level is elevated or whatever it is at now, but people still act like Semptember 10, 2001. The only ones I have seen who act like the sky is falling are those people who report the news.

_{Remember SARS, what happened to that, anyway?}

Last edited by DesertFox- (2008-07-14 13:23:18)

9-11, didn't change anything. The world was a dangerous place before and after 9-11. National security has always been an issue - we are an Empire. And right now - the terrorists seem to fit the necessary evil enemy profile. Put more simply - the American public is a butt-kazoo, plug-in and play.

So yeah I'd agree with assessment, more or less.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-07-14 14:48:35)

American intelligence gathering and analysis is good.

What the administration does with it is bad.

SealXo wrote:

also, obama wants to fuck the wiretappng in the patriot act, which has never been abused and has stopped a few incidents in its early stages. but once again, never mentioned and downplayed as it could have never become reality

not the media ive been exposed to.

do you know what we're talking about?

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-07-14 15:18:07)

SealXo wrote:

the media downplays terrorism

everytime there is a bomb threat such as JFK the media goes, oh wah wah they could have never pulled it off. But in reality one of the three guys worked in cargo.........

also, obama wants to fuck the wiretappng in the patriot act, which has never been abused and has stopped a few incidents in its early stages. but once again, never mentioned and downplayed as it could have never become reality

Why warrantless wiretapping though?

Why not just get a fucking warrant?  The way we're supposed to....

SealXo wrote:

the media downplays terrorism

everytime there is a bomb threat such as JFK the media goes, oh wah wah they could have never pulled it off. But in reality one of the three guys worked in cargo.........

also, obama wants to fuck the wiretappng in the patriot act, which has never been abused and has stopped a few incidents in its early stages. but once again, never mentioned and downplayed as it could have never become reality

You're loopy.

The intelligence community does not need the media to do its work. Honestly WTF are you trying to say? That if the media hyped up that past JFK situation and scared people more then the FBI, CIA, whoever - would do a better job? Or if the media didn't cover the event at all - then the FBI would have had their hands tied and something would have happened? If so, you're plain nutso.

They, the FBI, CIA, etc, are quite capable of doing their persistent and necessary job - without any media hype/help.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-07-14 15:32:18)

Spearhead wrote:

SealXo wrote:

the media downplays terrorism

everytime there is a bomb threat such as JFK the media goes, oh wah wah they could have never pulled it off. But in reality one of the three guys worked in cargo.........

also, obama wants to fuck the wiretappng in the patriot act, which has never been abused and has stopped a few incidents in its early stages. but once again, never mentioned and downplayed as it could have never become reality

Why warrantless wiretapping though?

Why not just get a fucking warrant?  The way we're supposed to....

You're being anti-American ... BURN HIM!

Can't really argue with the guy's logic. The GWOT is fairly incoherent...by trying to focus on every terrorist organization with remote ties to AQ, it ends up focusing very little where it needs to: on AQ directly.

FEOS wrote:

Can't really argue with the guy's logic. The GWOT is fairly incoherent...by trying to focus on every terrorist organization with remote ties to AQ, it ends up focusing very little where it needs to: on AQ directly.

AQ is a brand name.

Obama has " moved to the right " on issues such as Israel and Iraq because, and as I've stated from day one of this war _{long before this forum and before the aevent of run on sentence wall of text dst posts} thePresident doesn't really make war policy.

He may be presented a slew of options by military commanders but they may only point to one end; conflict.

George Bush didn't go into Iraq to settle a debt or score with or about his daddy, an assertion btw that has discredited many otherwise valid arguments about the war. He went there because the real powers that be dictated that that was to be the policy of the united States.

Why would Bill Clinton authorize war acts against Saddam; engage in exactly the same rhetoric and behavior when he was president, and then talk shit about it afterward?

It's because he was handed a piece of paper. A prepared statement. Just like Bush 2 when he told Saddam and his sons to gtfo of Iraq or die.



Anymore, presidents seems to exist to be a focus of rage and hatred. A puppet and shield to the real masters.

The question we should be asking is who are these people and how do we literally destroy them before it is too late?

Kmarion wrote:

Fear is a very powerful force.

An interesting and true statement.  Reminds me of Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes - a classic conversation into the interdependancy of power and fear.  However, his idea was that fear would balance the want for power, whereas now it seems fear is a key componant, perhaps even essential to the consolidation and continual lust for power.

Do you agree with his assessment?  Is he missing something?  Is the American public as sheepish as he seems to think they are?

Yes
No - except US actions have gone a long way towards radicalising the muslim world.
Yes

Its much easier to hoodwink the population with 'All muslims are out to kill us and take away our apple pies'
than 'Out of many millions of moslems there are about 1000 jihadists trying to attack us directly, all we need to do is up border policing a smidgen and we'll be fine'
Also there is minimal profit for Halliburton in option 2.