BF2S Forums Expiring Tires

that guy is he interviewed is a fucking wanker, why not have an expiry date on tires? just to be on the safe side.
kind of like having phones in planes, having them off wont do shit but theres like a 0.000000000001 chance that it might screw some instruments, so they tell you to turn them off

classic fucking american attitude, thats why everyone hates americans

Nappy wrote:

classic fucking american attitude, thats why everyone hates americans

I take it there are no assholes in your part of the world?

As for the OP...interesting.  I will take a look at my tires tomorrow.

The reporter doesn't know what he's talking about in the last part of his report on the "cryptic code found on the sidewall of the tire", when he mentions that until recently the code has been on the inside of the tire. Now, I work in the tire industry, so this will be an expert statement. The date part of the DOT-code is on one side of the tire. If the tire is mounted at the dealership in a way that the code is on the inside, tough cookies. It's not a grand scheme plotted by tire manufacturers.

My advice is that people avoid driving with tires older than 5-6 years. The rubber not only starts cracking with age, but the compound also becomes harder and -> very slippery on wet surfaces, regardless of tread depth. So if it's not tire failure, they're just a bitch to drive, as well as noisy.

I'm actually surprised by the fact that the information of rubber compound aging hasn't been spread in the US, of all nations. Tire dealers should be informed not to sell old tires (it's not the consumers job to find out but it is the dealers job to inform). The fellow interviewed from the rubber manufacturers association (or what it was) says that there's no scientific information to back up the six year age limit. It's common knowledge. Naturally the way tires are stored affect the level of aging, so there is no rule of thumb on old tires. This is why it's impossible to set a "Best before" date on tires. However, the use of common sense is allowed. Not lawsuits, common sense.

The tire failures in the beginning of the report tell me that there's more to it than just old tires. E.g. condensation inside the tire if the tubeless structure is compromised will lead to steel ply corrosion and tread separation, under inflation will cause sidewalls to rupture. The load index of the tire might be too small for the vehicle in which it is mounted, the speed rating might be too small for highway use. All of this affects the performance of the tire. The older the tire gets, the more it matters.

When you buy tires, if the dealer isn't that professionally skilled, check for the following:

- DOT-date code (you know how to check it now)
- Load index (can the tire handle the weight of your car)
- Speed rating (how fast you can drive with the tire)

..and of course if the tire dimension is in compliance with your car.

Here's a pretty concise explanation of sidewall markings:

The#1Spot wrote:

If you can find the code on your tire post the date it was made.

3707

VicktorVauhn wrote:

TBH if the rubber of your tires isn't hardened or cracking from age... you probably don't have anything to worry about.

Aye.

Nappy wrote:

that guy is he interviewed is a fucking wanker, why not have an expiry date on tires? just to be on the safe side.
kind of like having phones in planes, having them off wont do shit but theres like a 0.000000000001 chance that it might screw some instruments, so they tell you to turn them off

classic fucking american attitude, thats why everyone hates americans

Wow.

Failpost is utter fail.

If you had gone without that last sentence, maybe people would have responded to you. Now you just sound like a dolt.

I tried to find it but couldnt on mine. Tire rash (I guess previous owner was old or a woman. I just realized that my front and rear tires are different brands.

My tires get inspected yearly, why would I do it if there was nothing wrong with them.

Hah,

buy new tires and sell the old ones on e-bay

Nappy wrote:

that guy is he interviewed is a fucking wanker, why not have an expiry date on tires? just to be on the safe side.
kind of like having phones in planes, having them off wont do shit but theres like a 0.000000000001 chance that it might screw some instruments, so they tell you to turn them off

No, that chance is on par with the individual instruments interfering with themselves. Cell Phones are banned because: 1) On takeoff/landing, sometimes it can get bumpy. Loose objects flying around hitting people equal lawsuits. That's why everything is tucked down, carry on bags and such. 2) If something personal happened to someone, like a relative getting in a car accident for example, they might freak out and start to panic. Most wouldn't, but it could happen. Keeping people calm and focused on the book they're reading is the best thing to do at 30k feet.

A few others for sure, and it takes away the chance of someone bitching that they're neighbor is constantly chatting away.

I won't say anything directly about your ignorance, the American comment and the previous will attest fine.

no wonder my room mate has been constantly changing out his tires.  he keeps buying em used at 25 dollars a pop.

Stingray24 wrote:

If your tires are expiring you need to:

1. drive more

or

2. this (preferably with a rockfist out the window)

Holy Crap! Over 2 and 1/2 minutes of smoke! Awesome!

Real quick question though? How does one go about preventing the car from moving forward while smoking? Or do you essentially just keep the wheels spinning fast enough so they never get grip without any need for brake pedal or e-brake? Karma for answer.

Edit: whoever gets around to answering this please PM me.

Last edited by commandochristian (2008-07-16 22:33:57)

Nappy wrote:

that guy is he interviewed is a fucking wanker, why not have an expiry date on tires? just to be on the safe side.
kind of like having phones in planes, having them off wont do shit but theres like a 0.000000000001 chance that it might screw some instruments, so they tell you to turn them off

classic fucking american attitude, thats why everyone hates americans

california tires last 30 years

chicago tires last 8 months

cell phones do not interfere with instruments, they interfere with flight attendants.


that is why