If I there was a world with a single government and I was alive. I would be living in it.
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Would you be against a single world government?
| Yes | 78% | 78% - 85 | ||||
| No | 21% | 21% - 23 | ||||
| Total: 108 | ||||||
i dont even think it's realisitically possible... there are way too many cultures and beliefs to be represented by a single entity. i think it would basically be what it is now. smaller govts that have to hope to work together and agree on common grounds, while compromising their differences.
Would I be against a one-world government?
I'll let Lennon answer that for me:
I'll let Lennon answer that for me:
John Lennon wrote:
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
world government? sure, I'd finally have a good reason to own all my guns.
Yes. Single country governments are bad enough...
The consolidation of power already is scary. Big fat no.
It's up to interpretation whether the no countries implies people don't care anymore (probably the intended one) or there is only one so there is only a country and no countries.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Would I be against a one-world government?
I'll let Lennon answer that for me:John Lennon wrote:
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
On another note, I hate that song, as the described place isn't desirable at all imo, especially the no religion part but I'll leave that rant on semantics of the word for another time.
No way in hell am I sharing a government with Mexico or Canada. (I know "intolerant asshole", I dont care) And...
Phrozenbot wrote:
The consolidation of power already is scary. Big fat no.
Last edited by Wallpaper (2008-07-01 21:29:04)
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I am already against our single world government.
Phrozenbot wrote:
The consolidation of power already is scary. Big fat no.
Well if you actually understood the govt of the USA, you would realize that it is a representative. Most stuff is handled at the state and local level versus the national. The national is more for stuff that a single state cannot control or representing the country on the international level.CameronPoe wrote:
Centralising power is the road to ruin. The more people are presided over in one single jurisdiction the less representative the government becomes. This is basic shit man, c'mon...
Look at the US: two diametrically opposed camps are all that are on offer to American voters. A nation of 300m people of all manner of ethnic and cultural origins with all manner of views and opinions. Do you want to extend that shit further?
Many people have forgotten that and lean on the federal govt when shit hits the fan when they should really be bitching at their own state govt ...
The federal government in the US is way way stronger than you make out. The way the Swiss govern themselves, in my view, is the best in the world. Federated almost-democratic cantons. Why would Turkey want to be governed by the same rulers as Greece? Why would any middle eastern nation want to be governed by the same rulers as Israel? Why would Venezuela or Iran or Iraq or France or China or Russia want to be governed by the same rulers as the US and the UK?CapnNismo wrote:
Well if you actually understood the govt of the USA, you would realize that it is a representative. Most stuff is handled at the state and local level versus the national. The national is more for stuff that a single state cannot control or representing the country on the international level.CameronPoe wrote:
Centralising power is the road to ruin. The more people are presided over in one single jurisdiction the less representative the government becomes. This is basic shit man, c'mon...
Look at the US: two diametrically opposed camps are all that are on offer to American voters. A nation of 300m people of all manner of ethnic and cultural origins with all manner of views and opinions. Do you want to extend that shit further?
Many people have forgotten that and lean on the federal govt when shit hits the fan when they should really be bitching at their own state govt ...
Democracy newsflash: the people of France and the Netherlands voted NO to the EU constitution.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-02 02:26:44)
No way.
Big govt = Big Brother = Big Corruption
Just look at the EU and the US admin.
Big govt = Big Brother = Big Corruption
Just look at the EU and the US admin.
Fuck Israel
Poe is right on this one. (did I actually SAY that?) The US goverment used to be primarally controlled by the states, until that whole 'Civil War' thing. Ever since, more and more power has been concentrated at the federal level.CameronPoe wrote:
The federal government in the US is way way stronger than you make out. The way the Swiss govern themselves, in my view, is the best in the world. Federated almost-democratic cantons. Why would Turkey want to be governed by the same rulers as Greece? Why would any middle eastern nation want to be governed by the same rulers as Israel? Why would Venezuela or Iran or Iraq or France or China or Russia want to be governed by the same rulers as the US and the UK?CapnNismo wrote:
Well if you actually understood the govt of the USA, you would realize that it is a representative. Most stuff is handled at the state and local level versus the national. The national is more for stuff that a single state cannot control or representing the country on the international level.CameronPoe wrote:
Centralising power is the road to ruin. The more people are presided over in one single jurisdiction the less representative the government becomes. This is basic shit man, c'mon...
Look at the US: two diametrically opposed camps are all that are on offer to American voters. A nation of 300m people of all manner of ethnic and cultural origins with all manner of views and opinions. Do you want to extend that shit further?
Many people have forgotten that and lean on the federal govt when shit hits the fan when they should really be bitching at their own state govt ...
Democracy newsflash: the people of France and the Netherlands voted NO to the EU constitution.
I feel alot more comfortable knowing that more people I know are against a One World Government, but my question is: is it too late? Have we given the leaders already too much room to do it themselves without consulting the people? Just look at Ireland, these people clearly don't want it, now the EU is trying to force it down them anyways.
Theres so many more examples too, look at the Trans Texas Corridor they are trying to build, that would extend from Mexico to Canada. Look at the United States, ever wondered why they haven't found a solution for immigration? Because they don't want to a solution. Think of it, if they built a huge wall along Mexico-United States border, then we would know for sure that these 2 countries wouldn't want to merge.
Theres so many more examples too, look at the Trans Texas Corridor they are trying to build, that would extend from Mexico to Canada. Look at the United States, ever wondered why they haven't found a solution for immigration? Because they don't want to a solution. Think of it, if they built a huge wall along Mexico-United States border, then we would know for sure that these 2 countries wouldn't want to merge.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
*revive* Why the hell havent I heard about this North American Union?
Or is that just full of shit?
Martyn
Or is that just full of shit?
Martyn
Mesa no like da single whirled government.
Can you imagen how fucked up the elections would be? Or does an elected president go out the window aswell :\
The sheer amount of checks & balances required for a world government to work would, by definition, mean multiple cooperating governments. I'm not so sure we're going to be seeing an Earth PM anytime soon.
Can that be translated into English?jsnipy wrote:
If I there was a world with a single government and I was alive. I would be living in it.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-07-18 16:45:04)
No chance. I'd fight against it. Unless it was an empire controlled by Britain, in which case yes. Otherwise no.
I would take up arms to prevent it.
It makes sense if you consider human beings to be rational people out for the good of all mankind and not themselves.
Trouble is we as humans value self preservation above all. And man will always seek to dominate his fellow man. Its in our nature. This is why it can never work and will end in a one world police state eventually.
It makes sense if you consider human beings to be rational people out for the good of all mankind and not themselves.
Trouble is we as humans value self preservation above all. And man will always seek to dominate his fellow man. Its in our nature. This is why it can never work and will end in a one world police state eventually.
I'd be all for it as long as everyone is white, speaks english, and is christian.
Jokes aside theres no way it would possibly work. The world is way too diverse.
Jokes aside theres no way it would possibly work. The world is way too diverse.
Absolutely not, as long as that single world govt. had MY best interests, and MY security as a priority, other than that, I will vote to keep things the way they are.CapnNismo wrote:
Would you be against it at all?
I for one would not. It would certainly stand a good chance of sorting out all the BS that we have to put up with because countries can't get along or they get butt-hurt from a cartoon ...
Yes, Because all governments will go corrupt at some point. Just like America has. If there was a world government there would be no way to escape.
15 more years! 15 more years!
Don't tell me you would even consider this, ATG!ATG wrote:
Where is option for " maybe "?
Your a bright mind, i think you could see how it would start off as a great idea and then be corrupted.
15 more years! 15 more years!
Even if we did manage to form some utopia like startreck (no Money ect) there wold have to be a dramatic shift from our currnt way of living to this new way. You cant be half assed.