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2008-07-20 13:40:01

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

ok, i just built a new computer yesterday. Most seems well. Here are my specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping (2.4GHz 1066MHz)
OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz X2
Zotac 8800GT 512MB DDR3
500GB Hard Drive
Hp dvd-rw drive
700W PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit
HP vs17e 17"monitor

ok, now i have a issue,well 2.

My CPU is a 2.4GHZ quad, but its only running at 1.6GHZ. I have googled this up and have noticed this is a common issue and it seems its caused by Intel speedstep, which underclocks the CPU to save power.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/for … 4006888831
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/246 … stuck-6ghz

now, i went into BIOS to have a look for speedstep but cannot find it. Can someone help???

another issue i have. Sometimes when i turn on my P.C, it goes to the Microsoft screen with the loading bar. Then for no reason my monitor would go to sleep. This has happended a few times now. I have to off my PC, then boot it up again and it then does boot up properly. What would be the problem???

thanks

2008-07-20 13:40:50

aimless: Member; +166|6393|Texas

It's called EIST in the bios.

2008-07-20 13:42:51

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

aimless wrote:
It's called EIST in the bios.

thanks, is it just a case of disableing it???

2008-07-20 13:44:18

aimless: Member; +166|6393|Texas

rammunition wrote:
aimless wrote:
It's called EIST in the bios.
thanks, is it just a case of disableing it???

Yes.

2008-07-20 13:46:44

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

aimless wrote:
rammunition wrote:
aimless wrote:
It's called EIST in the bios.
thanks, is it just a case of disableing it???
Yes.

thanks, can you help with the other issue??

2008-07-20 13:51:07

aimless: Member; +166|6393|Texas

If your monitor goes to sleep, you should be able to turn it back on. If it's turning off it could be a few other problems. Bad monitor/cables or bad video card. I doubt it's anything serious since you get it to work on reboot.

2008-07-20 14:14:05

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

aimless wrote:
If your monitor goes to sleep, you should be able to turn it back on. If it's turning off it could be a few other problems. Bad monitor/cables or bad video card. I doubt it's anything serious since you get it to work on reboot.

it gets annoying tbh, every time i turn the computer twice, the third time doesn't boot up properly, if you know what i mean

2008-07-20 14:15:23

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6762|N. Ireland

Why would you want to disable EIST anyway? For the average user ... most users in fact, it's a good thing to have on

2008-07-20 14:23:50

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

kylef wrote:
Why would you want to disable EIST anyway? For the average user ... most users in fact, it's a good thing to have on

My brother is a game designer and he does 3d rendering etc, so he needs the full power tbh

ok, i just disabled EIST and the CPU is still running at 1.6GHZ, now i know the CPU is fitted in prpoerly in the motherboard socket. What could the f**king problem be????

also, i got the issue of my monitor going to sleep again after i went into BIOS

2008-07-20 14:34:39

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

rammunition wrote:
kylef wrote:
Why would you want to disable EIST anyway? For the average user ... most users in fact, it's a good thing to have on
My brother is a game designer and he does 3d rendering etc, so he needs the full power tbh

ok, i just disabled EIST and the CPU is still running at 1.6GHZ, now i know the CPU is fitted in prpoerly in the motherboard socket. What could the f**king problem be????

also, i got the issue of my monitor going to sleep again after i went into BIOS

You've probably got the FSB and/or multipliers set incorrectly.

If you don't already have it, download and install CPUZ, then take screenies of the CPU and RAM pages and post them here...

2008-07-20 14:39:44

The_Sniper_NM: Official EVGA Fanboy; +94|6382|SC | USA |

Just calm down getting pissed off causes even more problems. You're sure turned off EIST? You need to save and exit. Also, Speed step clocks the CPU back up to stock when load is put on the CPU. It EIST is default on Dells and on my old dell I could run CPUZ on my second monitor while in a game, or Everest on my G15 to see the clock.

Edit: When you have your boot problem, does the computer turn off as well or does the monitor just turn off?

Last edited by The_Sniper_NM (2008-07-20 14:41:52)

2008-07-20 14:43:48

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
rammunition wrote:
kylef wrote:
Why would you want to disable EIST anyway? For the average user ... most users in fact, it's a good thing to have on
My brother is a game designer and he does 3d rendering etc, so he needs the full power tbh

ok, i just disabled EIST and the CPU is still running at 1.6GHZ, now i know the CPU is fitted in prpoerly in the motherboard socket. What could the f**king problem be????

also, i got the issue of my monitor going to sleep again after i went into BIOS
You've probably got the FSB and/or multipliers set incorrectly.

If you don't already have it, download and install CPUZ, then take screenies of the CPU and RAM pages and post them here...

here there are

http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … puzcpu.jpg

http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … puzram.jpg

2008-07-20 14:46:47

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

The_Sniper_NM wrote:
Just calm down getting pissed off causes even more problems. You're sure turned off EIST? You need to save and exit. Also, Speed step clocks the CPU back up to stock when load is put on the CPU. It EIST is default on Dells and on my old dell I could run CPUZ on my second monitor while in a game, or Everest on my G15 to see the clock.

Edit: When you have your boot problem, does the computer turn off as well or does the monitor just turn off?

100% sure i have turned off EIST and saved it.

with the boot probelm its just the monitor that sleeps. The computer stays on, you can hear the fan powering up as it sleeps. I have turned off the monitor by the mains but no luck. I only install vista today. it might be a problem with vista tbh

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2008-07-20 14:48:22

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

rammunition wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
rammunition wrote:

My brother is a game designer and he does 3d rendering etc, so he needs the full power tbh

ok, i just disabled EIST and the CPU is still running at 1.6GHZ, now i know the CPU is fitted in prpoerly in the motherboard socket. What could the f**king problem be????

also, i got the issue of my monitor going to sleep again after i went into BIOS
You've probably got the FSB and/or multipliers set incorrectly.

If you don't already have it, download and install CPUZ, then take screenies of the CPU and RAM pages and post them here...
here there are

http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … puzcpu.jpg

http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … puzram.jpg

Yes, I think you're cpu fsb is wrong.

leme see if I can find a pdf of the manual for your mobo and work out what BIOS settings you need...

2008-07-20 14:54:29

dill13: Member; +67|6462

do you have super pi if not download and do 1m test and see if your speed goes up.
Edit: Im not sure but shouldnt the multiplier be 8 instead of 6

Last edited by dill13 (2008-07-20 15:01:42)

2008-07-20 14:59:26

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6130

i don't know if this will help

http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … sytune.jpg

thats what my settings are atm, i havn't touched anything. Before i switched off the EIST, the orignal CIA2 on the screen was 2.4, but its now dropped

im off to sleep will read on the replies in the morning, maybe afternoon. thanks for helping everyone

Last edited by rammunition (2008-07-20 15:01:22)

2008-07-20 15:14:51

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

OK, here goes...

1. Boot into the BIOS and go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section.
2. Ensure System Voltage Control is set to Auto (scroll down to find this).
3. Ensure CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) is set to 266 (which it should already be - if not, you may need to set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled first).
4. Set CPU Clock Ratio to, if I've done my math correctly, 9x - in case I haven't done my math correctly, CPU Frequency (on the line below) should read as 2.40Ghz.

Now, optionally, you can at this stage synchronise you RAM to your CPU - this will run the RAM slightly slower, but will improve overall performance (by reducing 'wait states'), if you wish to do this, do the following:

5. Change the System Memory Multiplier to whatever value is necessary to get the line below (Memory Frequency (Mhz)) to read as 266 (the manual pdf doesn't give enough info to tell what setting this will need to be - just make sure memory frequency says 266 and you won't go wrong).

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2008-07-20 15:16:18

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

rammunition wrote:
i don't know if this will help

http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … sytune.jpg

I've seen that thing report completely the wrong information, so DO NOT TRUST IT.

rammunition wrote:
im off to sleep will read on the replies in the morning, maybe afternoon. thanks for helping everyone

D'oh, you shoulda waited just 15 more minutes!

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-07-20 15:20:16)

2008-07-20 15:44:39

aimless: Member; +166|6393|Texas

EasyTune reports accurate information.

Go back to your bios and disable C1E and TM2 as well. For me this solved the problem.

Intel EIST has very poor judgement on deciding when to run the cpu at full clock speeds. Which is why you disable it. I've had it run on full clocks only during prime95/super pi and running completely downclocked when in crysis and when rendering video.

Also, downclocking your ram is a very good way to not get great performance out of your RAM. You ram speeds (in bios) should read 400MHz, not 226MHz.

Last edited by aimless (2008-07-20 15:46:05)

2008-07-20 15:47:25

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

aimless wrote:
EasyTune reports accurate information.

Not always.

I set-up a friends PC recently that had a similar problem (almost exactly the same problem on almost exactly the same set-up in fact) and his EasyTune refused to display the correct information.

2008-07-20 15:51:26

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

aimless wrote:
Also, downclocking your ram is a very good way to not get great performance out of your RAM. You ram speeds (in bios) should read 400MHz, not 226MHz.

That why I said it was an optional step - by setting it to 400 you're going to get what are known as 'wait states' - where the RAM is waiting for the CPU or the CPU is waiting for the RAM - this is because the two clock speeds are not synchronised - by down-clocking the RAM to 266 it will then be synchronised to the CPU - effectively eliminating RAM-CPU wait states - yes, the RAM is running slower, but the overall performance will be better.

2008-07-20 15:54:05

aimless: Member; +166|6393|Texas

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
aimless wrote:
Also, downclocking your ram is a very good way to not get great performance out of your RAM. You ram speeds (in bios) should read 400MHz, not 226MHz.
That why I said it was an optional step - by setting it to 400 you're going to get what are known as 'wait states' - where the RAM is waiting for the CPU or the CPU is waiting for the RAM - this is because the two clock speeds are not synchronised - by down-clocking the RAM to 266 it will then be synchronised to the CPU - effectively eliminating RAM-CPU wait states - yes, the RAM is running slower, but the overall performance will be better.

This is what the cpu:dram ratio is for. So you don't have to downclock your ram.

2008-07-20 15:59:30

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

aimless wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
aimless wrote:
Also, downclocking your ram is a very good way to not get great performance out of your RAM. You ram speeds (in bios) should read 400MHz, not 226MHz.
That why I said it was an optional step - by setting it to 400 you're going to get what are known as 'wait states' - where the RAM is waiting for the CPU or the CPU is waiting for the RAM - this is because the two clock speeds are not synchronised - by down-clocking the RAM to 266 it will then be synchronised to the CPU - effectively eliminating RAM-CPU wait states - yes, the RAM is running slower, but the overall performance will be better.
This is what the cpu:dram ratio is for. So you don't have to downclock your ram.

Yes. You're misunderstanding the point. It's like this - imagine you're catching balls every 5 seconds, but your mate, who's throwing them, starts throwing one every 4 seconds, very quickly you're going to get a ball in the face, or your mate is going to have to wait a second.

2008-07-20 16:14:24

aimless: Member; +166|6393|Texas

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
aimless wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That why I said it was an optional step - by setting it to 400 you're going to get what are known as 'wait states' - where the RAM is waiting for the CPU or the CPU is waiting for the RAM - this is because the two clock speeds are not synchronised - by down-clocking the RAM to 266 it will then be synchronised to the CPU - effectively eliminating RAM-CPU wait states - yes, the RAM is running slower, but the overall performance will be better.
This is what the cpu:dram ratio is for. So you don't have to downclock your ram.
Yes. You're misunderstanding the point. It's like this - imagine you're catching balls every 5 seconds, but your mate, who's throwing them, starts throwing one every 4 seconds, very quickly you're going to get a ball in the face, or your mate is going to have to wait a second.

Or clock your cpu to 400MHz and turn the multiplier to 6, fsb:dram ratio = 1.

Last edited by aimless (2008-07-20 16:16:20)

2008-07-20 16:16:16

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

aimless wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
aimless wrote:

This is what the cpu:dram ratio is for. So you don't have to downclock your ram.
Yes. You're misunderstanding the point. It's like this - imagine you're catching balls every 5 seconds, but your mate, who's throwing them, starts throwing one every 4 seconds, very quickly you're going to get a ball in the face, or your mate is going to have to wait a second.
Or clock your cpu to 400MHz and turn the multiplier to 6, fsb:dram ratio = 1.

Edit: but you can't do this unless you have the Extreme version.

Which he doesn't.

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