Wait you should be able to do that. Right? The Core 2 Duo/Quad multipliers are locked from 6 to 9 right?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Which he doesn't.aimless wrote:
Or clock your cpu to 400MHz and turn the multiplier to 6, fsb:dram ratio = 1.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Yes. You're misunderstanding the point. It's like this - imagine you're catching balls every 5 seconds, but your mate, who's throwing them, starts throwing one every 4 seconds, very quickly you're going to get a ball in the face, or your mate is going to have to wait a second.
Edit: but you can't do this unless you have the Extreme version.
The max CPU FSB speed is fixed, unless it's an Extreeeeeme.aimless wrote:
Wait you should be able to do that. Right? The Core 2 Duo/Quad multipliers are locked from 6 to 9 right?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Which he doesn't.aimless wrote:
Or clock your cpu to 400MHz and turn the multiplier to 6, fsb:dram ratio = 1.
Edit: but you can't do this unless you have the Extreme version.
What he ideally needs is some PC2-8500, or even PC2-4200, instead of the PC2-3200's he's got.
Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-07-20 16:29:04)
He's got PC2-6400.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
The max CPU FSB speed is fixed, unless it's an Extreeeeeme.aimless wrote:
Wait you should be able to do that. Right? The Core 2 Duo/Quad multipliers are locked from 6 to 9 right?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Which he doesn't.
What he ideally needs is some PC2-8500, or even PC2-4200, instead of the PC2-3200's he's got.
Last edited by aimless (2008-07-20 16:44:35)
Actually, yes, I think you're right, my mistake. He still, ideally, needs 8500's...aimless wrote:
He's got PC2-6400.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
The max CPU FSB speed is fixed, unless it's an Extreeeeeme.aimless wrote:
Wait you should be able to do that. Right? The Core 2 Duo/Quad multipliers are locked from 6 to 9 right?
What he ideally needs is some PC2-8500, or even PC2-4200, instead of the PC2-3200's he's got.
Though, having said that, that's if his mobo supports them (cba to check), if not then he needs 4200's...
Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-07-20 16:56:58)
In the Advanced Bios Features Menu,
Disable all of the following:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)
CPU EIST Function (EIST is the speedstep one)
Disable all of the following:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)
CPU EIST Function (EIST is the speedstep one)
thanks for that. im out atm, on my mobile, when i get home will try it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, here goes...
1. Boot into the BIOS and go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section.
2. Ensure System Voltage Control is set to Auto (scroll down to find this).
3. Ensure CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) is set to 266 (which it should already be - if not, you may need to set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled first).
4. Set CPU Clock Ratio to, if I've done my math correctly, 9x - in case I haven't done my math correctly, CPU Frequency (on the line below) should read as 2.40Ghz.
Now, optionally, you can at this stage synchronise you RAM to your CPU - this will run the RAM slightly slower, but will improve overall performance (by reducing 'wait states'), if you wish to do this, do the following:
5. Change the System Memory Multiplier to whatever value is necessary to get the line below (Memory Frequency (Mhz)) to read as 266 (the manual pdf doesn't give enough info to tell what setting this will need to be - just make sure memory frequency says 266 and you won't go wrong).
Also i just realised my Ram is only running at 400MHZ (I think)
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … puzram.jpg
i got the OCZ PC2 6400 DDR2 800MHZ ram, 4GB of it
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116755
is the clock speed right???
if not how do i set it to its stock speed???
if you haven't realised im a intel noob, this is my first ever build and first ever intel computer (been with AMD for a few years)
I want my computer to be running every components at stock speeds!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, this is my mobo
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143228
the ram it supports are PC2-6400, PC2-5300, PC2-9600, PC2-8500.
Last edited by rammunition (2008-07-21 12:43:55)
are you sure this is the correct method???ReDevilJR wrote:
In the Advanced Bios Features Menu,
Disable all of the following:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)
CPU EIST Function (EIST is the speedstep one)
im now confused
ok i just did as you said, now on CPU Z it shows the clock speed ass 1.6GHZ but it jumps up and down to 2.4GHZ. I have also noticed that on CPU-Z that the clock multiply is jumping with it, x6 and to x9 when it goes to 2.4GHZScorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, here goes...
1. Boot into the BIOS and go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section.
2. Ensure System Voltage Control is set to Auto (scroll down to find this).
3. Ensure CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) is set to 266 (which it should already be - if not, you may need to set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled first).
4. Set CPU Clock Ratio to, if I've done my math correctly, 9x - in case I haven't done my math correctly, CPU Frequency (on the line below) should read as 2.40Ghz.
Now, optionally, you can at this stage synchronise you RAM to your CPU - this will run the RAM slightly slower, but will improve overall performance (by reducing 'wait states'), if you wish to do this, do the following:
5. Change the System Memory Multiplier to whatever value is necessary to get the line below (Memory Frequency (Mhz)) to read as 266 (the manual pdf doesn't give enough info to tell what setting this will need to be - just make sure memory frequency says 266 and you won't go wrong).
Its Vista. Theres a setting in power management options. Change it to high performance.rammunition wrote:
ok i just did as you said, now on CPU Z it shows the clock speed ass 1.6GHZ but it jumps up and down to 2.4GHZ. I have also noticed that on CPU-Z that the clock multiply is jumping with it, x6 and to x9 when it goes to 2.4GHZScorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, here goes...
1. Boot into the BIOS and go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section.
2. Ensure System Voltage Control is set to Auto (scroll down to find this).
3. Ensure CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) is set to 266 (which it should already be - if not, you may need to set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled first).
4. Set CPU Clock Ratio to, if I've done my math correctly, 9x - in case I haven't done my math correctly, CPU Frequency (on the line below) should read as 2.40Ghz.
Now, optionally, you can at this stage synchronise you RAM to your CPU - this will run the RAM slightly slower, but will improve overall performance (by reducing 'wait states'), if you wish to do this, do the following:
5. Change the System Memory Multiplier to whatever value is necessary to get the line below (Memory Frequency (Mhz)) to read as 266 (the manual pdf doesn't give enough info to tell what setting this will need to be - just make sure memory frequency says 266 and you won't go wrong).
tried that, it doesn't make a difference.Sup wrote:
Its Vista. Theres a setting in power management options. Change it to high performance.rammunition wrote:
ok i just did as you said, now on CPU Z it shows the clock speed ass 1.6GHZ but it jumps up and down to 2.4GHZ. I have also noticed that on CPU-Z that the clock multiply is jumping with it, x6 and to x9 when it goes to 2.4GHZScorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, here goes...
1. Boot into the BIOS and go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section.
2. Ensure System Voltage Control is set to Auto (scroll down to find this).
3. Ensure CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) is set to 266 (which it should already be - if not, you may need to set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled first).
4. Set CPU Clock Ratio to, if I've done my math correctly, 9x - in case I haven't done my math correctly, CPU Frequency (on the line below) should read as 2.40Ghz.
Now, optionally, you can at this stage synchronise you RAM to your CPU - this will run the RAM slightly slower, but will improve overall performance (by reducing 'wait states'), if you wish to do this, do the following:
5. Change the System Memory Multiplier to whatever value is necessary to get the line below (Memory Frequency (Mhz)) to read as 266 (the manual pdf doesn't give enough info to tell what setting this will need to be - just make sure memory frequency says 266 and you won't go wrong).
Ram is 400MHz, at Command rate of 2T which makes it 800MHzrammunition wrote:
thanks for that. im out atm, on my mobile, when i get home will try it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, here goes...
1. Boot into the BIOS and go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section.
2. Ensure System Voltage Control is set to Auto (scroll down to find this).
3. Ensure CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) is set to 266 (which it should already be - if not, you may need to set CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled first).
4. Set CPU Clock Ratio to, if I've done my math correctly, 9x - in case I haven't done my math correctly, CPU Frequency (on the line below) should read as 2.40Ghz.
Now, optionally, you can at this stage synchronise you RAM to your CPU - this will run the RAM slightly slower, but will improve overall performance (by reducing 'wait states'), if you wish to do this, do the following:
5. Change the System Memory Multiplier to whatever value is necessary to get the line below (Memory Frequency (Mhz)) to read as 266 (the manual pdf doesn't give enough info to tell what setting this will need to be - just make sure memory frequency says 266 and you won't go wrong).
Also i just realised my Ram is only running at 400MHZ (I think)
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … puzram.jpg
i got the OCZ PC2 6400 DDR2 800MHZ ram, 4GB of it
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116755
is the clock speed right???
if not how do i set it to its stock speed???
if you haven't realised im a intel noob, this is my first ever build and first ever intel computer (been with AMD for a few years)
I want my computer to be running every components at stock speeds!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, this is my mobo
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143228
the ram it supports are PC2-6400, PC2-5300, PC2-9600, PC2-8500.
Most probably it will not be better. RAM running at as high as 800MHz will outperform synchronized ram at 533MHz. If it was sync 533 vs non-sync 667 the synced might be better, but in this case faster ram wins.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That why I said it was an optional step - by setting it to 400 you're going to get what are known as 'wait states' - where the RAM is waiting for the CPU or the CPU is waiting for the RAM - this is because the two clock speeds are not synchronised - by down-clocking the RAM to 266 it will then be synchronised to the CPU - effectively eliminating RAM-CPU wait states - yes, the RAM is running slower, but the overall performance will be better.
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holy cow, you are god, its worked, its now at 2.4GHZ stable , the clock speed isn't jumping up and down anymoreReDevilJR wrote:
In the Advanced Bios Features Menu,
Disable all of the following:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)
CPU EIST Function (EIST is the speedstep one)
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … ent=24.jpg
does everthing look ok on CPU-Z????
one question though, should i leave the System Voltage Control(in BIOS) on auto???
its was on maunal before.
anyway, just my boot up issue left to sort out
Last edited by rammunition (2008-07-21 16:15:52)
Hey I suggested that on page 1!
As for the voltage control, leave it on auto unless you start overclocking and need more voltage.
As for the voltage control, leave it on auto unless you start overclocking and need more voltage.
Yep, that all looks correct.rammunition wrote:
holy cow, you are god, its worked, its now at 2.4GHZ stable , the clock speed isn't jumping up and down anymoreReDevilJR wrote:
In the Advanced Bios Features Menu,
Disable all of the following:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)
CPU EIST Function (EIST is the speedstep one)
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … ent=24.jpg
does everthing look ok on CPU-Z????
one question though, should i leave the System Voltage Control(in BIOS) on auto???
its was on maunal before.
anyway, just my boot up issue left to sort out
As you probably gathered from others posts, the clock speed jumping up and down was due to the C1E/TM2/EIST settings - once we got your cpu multiplier set correctly these things kicked in - now that they're disabled, it's locked to full speed it would be safe to to re-enable these if you want to ensure your CPU has as long a life span as possible, but, that will cause the speed-fluctuations to return.
And, yes, leave System Voltage Control on Auto - you only need to use the manual setting whilst over-clocking (and even then, auto is probably often the best option).
Oh, and, as whoever it was that said it said, yep 800Mhz RAM runs at 400Mhz (confusing isn't it?)
Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-07-21 22:04:11)
I've never seen, nor have had the privilege of having the available hardware to do, a full test the overall performances of the various different setups.DeathUnlimited wrote:
Most probably it will not be better. RAM running at as high as 800MHz will outperform synchronized ram at 533MHz. If it was sync 533 vs non-sync 667 the synced might be better, but in this case faster ram wins.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That why I said it was an optional step - by setting it to 400 you're going to get what are known as 'wait states' - where the RAM is waiting for the CPU or the CPU is waiting for the RAM - this is because the two clock speeds are not synchronised - by down-clocking the RAM to 266 it will then be synchronised to the CPU - effectively eliminating RAM-CPU wait states - yes, the RAM is running slower, but the overall performance will be better.
I would love to see exactly how they all compare, because you may well be correct.
I have noticed. Since i set the CPU speed at 2.4, my computers monitor has stopped going to sleep on boot up. Might have been linked tbhScorpion0x17 wrote:
Yep, that all looks correct.rammunition wrote:
holy cow, you are god, its worked, its now at 2.4GHZ stable , the clock speed isn't jumping up and down anymoreReDevilJR wrote:
In the Advanced Bios Features Menu,
Disable all of the following:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)
CPU EIST Function (EIST is the speedstep one)
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … ent=24.jpg
does everthing look ok on CPU-Z????
one question though, should i leave the System Voltage Control(in BIOS) on auto???
its was on maunal before.
anyway, just my boot up issue left to sort out
As you probably gathered from others posts, the clock speed jumping up and down was due to the C1E/TM2/EIST settings - once we got your cpu multiplier set correctly these things kicked in - now that they're disabled, it's locked to full speed it would be safe to to re-enable these if you want to ensure your CPU has as long a life span as possible, but, that will cause the speed-fluctuations to return.
And, yes, leave System Voltage Control on Auto - you only need to use the manual setting whilst over-clocking (and even then, auto is probably often the best option).
Oh, and, as whoever it was that said it said, yep 800Mhz RAM runs at 400Mhz (confusing isn't it?)
my computer is running at 40'C idle, the CPU is 37'C, GPU at 57'C. Its a good temperature and am leaving the CPU settings. I have 6 fans in total in my computer so it will stay cool!
one question, how do i speed up my GPU fan as its only running at 800RPM, and would like atleast 1000RPM. I have riva tuner but it looks confusing.
Also what otehr good fan tuning applications are there, as speed fan doesn't find all my fans
For your GPU fan, open up RivaTuner. On the main tab in the "Target Adapter" area, there is a section that names your video card and to the right it says "customize" with a little arrow. Click the arrow and choose low level system settings (the first one). A new box will pop up.
Enable low level fan control and choose Detect Now. Select "fixed" and move the slider to the speed you want. Hit apply. If you want you can have your settings remember when windows boots up, click the check box if you want.
Enable low level fan control and choose Detect Now. Select "fixed" and move the slider to the speed you want. Hit apply. If you want you can have your settings remember when windows boots up, click the check box if you want.