blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7066
If Barack Obama has a problem among Jewish voters, then Sen. Joseph Lieberman is in monumental trouble.

Among the most high-profile Jews in Congress, Lieberman is viewed far more unfavorably than the presumptive Democratic nominee, according to a new poll. Only 37 percent of Jews view the Connecticut Independent in a favorable light compared to 48 percent who have a negative perception. As for Obama, 60 percent of Jews view him favorably while 34 percent view him unfavorably.The findings were released as part of a recent survey of American Jews by the new progressive pro-Israel group J Street. They seem to upturn some of this year's conventional political wisdom.

Lieberman does score better among the 900 Jewish voters polled than other major political and religious figures. President Bush is viewed unfavorably by 74 percent of Jews, compared to 22 percent who see him in a positive light. McCain, meanwhile, is viewed favorably by just 34 percent of Jews, while 57 said they had a negative perception. On the lowest end of the spectrum stood Obama's former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who was viewed favorably by just five percent of Jews and unfavorably by 68 percent.

Not that there is tremendous significance to these developments or numbers. Lieberman has eagerly taken to his role of McCain attack dog, in the process alienating large portions of the Democrats that make up both the Jewish community and his Connecticut constituency. Not to mention the relatively common misconception that Jews naturally are aligned with Lieberman's hard-line tilt on foreign affairs.

As for the rest of J Street's finding, they provide a mixed bag for Obama. The Illinois Democrat - who one percent of the population thinks is Jewish - has a substantial lead among Jews in the presidential race: 62 percent to 32 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/2 … 14182.html
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7042|London, England
I've always thought besides the Lobby Zionists that the average Jew, especially in the U.S, are democrats. Infact I'm guessing pretty much all minorities in the US are by large democrats
i g
Banned
+876|6285|GA

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I've always thought besides the Lobby Zionists that the average Jew, especially in the U.S, are democrats. Infact I'm guessing pretty much all minorities in the US are by large democrats
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7042|London, England

i g wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I've always thought besides the Lobby Zionists that the average Jew, especially in the U.S, are democrats. Infact I'm guessing pretty much all minorities in the US are by large democrats
https://www.ratemyeverything.net/image/9877/0/Condoleezza_Rice_Bikini_Show.ashx
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Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6910|Gogledd Cymru

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

i g wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

I've always thought besides the Lobby Zionists that the average Jew, especially in the U.S, are democrats. Infact I'm guessing pretty much all minorities in the US are by large democrats
https://www.ratemyeverything.net/image/9877/0/Condoleezza_Rice_Bikini_Show.ashx
https://sweetdaddy.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/borat.jpg
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i g
Banned
+876|6285|GA

epic
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7250|Grapevine, TX
truly
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6212|Dublin, Ohio
guess a lot of people just changed their vote lulz.  filthy jew lover
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6976
I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-22 15:50:02)

Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7137

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it?
it gives you plenty of time to worry about what's going on in the US...lol...
Love is the answer
Thorax
Banned
+77|6225

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.
I'm glad you live there too.  Stay there.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6976

Thorax wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.
I'm glad you live there too.  Stay there.
I have no intention of moving. Except for holidays. Looking forwards to Boston, MA, in August for the cheap shopping as a matter of fact.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-22 16:01:51)

CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6778|CA, USA

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.
i think in general, many of us here would enjoy such a idealist view as you hold to be true in america as well, however the influence of special interest lobbies is very powerful over here.  eg:  if you don't support my abc position, i will make it hard for you to get votes needed for things you are trying to pass.  it almost smells like extortion in some cases.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6976

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

i think in general, many of us here would enjoy such a idealist view as you hold to be true in america as well, however the influence of special interest lobbies is very powerful over here.  eg:  if you don't support my abc position, i will make it hard for you to get votes needed for things you are trying to pass.  it almost smells like extortion in some cases.
It almost seems like 'unionisation' as you might find in the workplace. Voting blocs rather than individuals exercising their democratic duties.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6832|'Murka

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.
Ask the media...they're the ones who feed the beast.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7093|Colorado

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.
The one & only time we agree other than guinness is the best beer
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6950|Global Command

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc. What's with the ethno-creed divisions? How about individual human beings making decisions based on policies and manifestos? The idea of appealing to distinct minority groupings and categorizing blocs of people doesn't seem very 'melting pot' does it? Maybe I'm spoiled with the relative ethnic homogeneity over here.
I dig it Cam.
American politics have distilled down into diversions.

The more focus people expend worrying about the things you mentioned, the more able the government is able to pass draconian laws and raise taxes. Divert the masses with sound bytes and petty outrages while behind the scenes economic warfare is waged.


That why Obama said what he said about people clinging to guns and religion; the sheeple are easily outraged and divided into easily managed camps with hot button issues and the real important things are left behind.

Then a lot of voters start staying home and we have 35% election turn outs because " it's all bullshit and the courts nover ride the will of the voters. "

Not knowing that local judges are usually elected and federal judges are appointed by people who are elected.

Average Joe is apathetic, uniformed and uninvolved while the unions send out voter guides and encourage the members  to the polls and fund commercials advocating that point of view.

I bet the average teenager hanging out in DST could go head to head with Obama or McCain on a host of unscripted debates, and win.
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7093|Colorado
I'd love the chance to shame them.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6958|Long Island, New York
The Illinois Democrat - who one percent of the population thinks is Jewish - has a substantial lead among Jews in the presidential race: 62 percent to 32 percent.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6527|eXtreme to the maX
I've always thought besides the Lobby Zionists that the average Jew, especially in the U.S, are democrats.
Most jews are smart and sensible, its the zionists who are the problem.
I'm glad I live in a democracy where the topics of conversation don't involve "who will the jews vote for?", "who will the blacks vote for?", "who will the hispanics vote for?", "who will the evangelicals vote for?", etc.
I don't get it either, other nationalities use their brains.

Except here in Aus we just take the 'How to vote' card from the prettiest girl in the line and follow that.
At least thats what I did.

That why Obama said what he said about people clinging to guns and religion; the sheeple are easily outraged and divided into easily managed camps with hot button issues and the real important things are left behind.
Americans seem more prone to Single Issue Fanaticism than most.

'Obama could make abortion more legal? Holy crap I'd better vote McCain, never mind the economy, Armageddon, healthcare etc.'

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-07-23 06:27:04)

Fuck Israel
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6826|North Carolina
Lieberman is the main reason why I'm not as pissed at Gore losing in 2000 as I otherwise would be.

I'd rather even have Bush in office a third term than have that cunt running things.

Whatever the case, hopefully, McCain won't make Lieberman anything more than his current lap dog if he actually wins this election.

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