Pakistan to get free F-16 upgrade, courtesy of you guys

2008-07-24 09:58:28

#1

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7042|London, England

By you guys I mean all you Amerikastani tax paying folk

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7523856.stm

The US has confirmed it hopes to use $230m of its $300m military funding to Pakistan in 2008 on upgrading the country's ageing F-16 fighter jets.

A report in the New York Times said some US Congressmen were dismayed, saying the jets did not help counter-terrorism operations.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino confirmed the upgrade but insisted the jets were for counter-terrorism use.

The planes have been used by Pakistan in counter-terror operations, but only rarely.

The U.S are not only being played by Israel when it comes to "Aid" like this, it looks like they're getting played by Pakistan as well...

Thoughts? A step forward in the war of terror or a waste of money that would be better spent elsewhere?

2008-07-24 10:03:00

#2

CaptainSpaulding71: Member; +119|6778|CA, USA

we should have a self-destruct mechanism in these parts that we give to our 'friends' so that when they are eventually used against us, we can just click the button and problem is gone. kinda like C4-ing the enemy jet and then waiting at the end of the runway on wake.

2008-07-24 10:05:11

#3

PureFodder: Member; +225|6706

Lockheed Martin lobbyists must be getting a big fat bonus today.

2008-07-24 10:52:24

#4

13rin: Member; +977|6900

Damnit.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2008-07-24 11:00:07

#5

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6764|tropical regions of london

this is really, really good. it will only strengthen the pakistani military and our relationship with the most important ally in the region. the people of pakistan will believe that the US is a partner for the long run. This is exactly the best thing to happen, especially for the war on terror. why arent people happy?

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2008-07-24 11:03:30

#6

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6764|tropical regions of london

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701f … istan.html

article wrote:
For all these reasons, a change in the strategic mindset of Pakistan’s military is now possible. Washington’s policy challenge lies in promoting and accelerating that change, weaning the army away from the Islamists, and cultivating an enduring partnership. Issuing threats — including to cut U.S. military assistance, end sales of major defense systems (such as F-16s), or curtail prestigious officer-training exchanges — is precisely the wrong approach. These threats weaken the United States’ friends and potential allies. They also arm skeptics in Pakistan’s military establishment who believe Washington will again abandon Pakistan once its tactical utility is gone.

2008-07-24 11:05:55

#7

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6970|UK

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:
kinda like C4-ing the enemy jet and then waiting at the end of the runway on wake.

You bastard! No matter though, they all tk each other so much the plane will never get off the ground.

Martyn

2008-07-24 11:06:12

#8

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7021|132 and Bush

Washington also agreed to upgrade the older F-16s, although these would have to be paid for directly by Islamabad.

But the BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan, in Islamabad, says the new plan set out by the Bush administration would now include this upgrade within its anti-terrorism aid package.

Syed Shoaib Hasan should provide evidence. We've known about the military aid to Pakistan. If they want to burn it all up on fighters .. oh well. When they raise the total amount of aid then I'll join in the frustration.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-07-24 12:49:06

#9

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7002|SE London

PureFodder wrote:
Lockheed Martin lobbyists must be getting a big fat bonus today.

2008-07-24 12:53:25

#10

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,991|7053|949

So we (taxpayers) give them (Pakistan government) $300 million and they turn around and give us (U.S. defense contractors) $230 million back?

Regardless of the foreign policy standpoint, that's just absurd business (unless of course you stand to gain from said contracts...).

2008-07-24 14:13:37

#11

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7092|UK

bomb the hindoos.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-07-24 14:14:39

#12

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7092|UK

God Save the Queen wrote:
this is really, really good. it will only strengthen the pakistani military and our relationship with the most important ally in the region. the people of pakistan will believe that the US is a partner for the long run. This is exactly the best thing to happen, especially for the war on terror. why arent people happy?

Pakistanis hate Americans. With a passion.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-07-24 14:25:58

#13

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7021|132 and Bush

m3thod wrote:
God Save the Queen wrote:
this is really, really good. it will only strengthen the pakistani military and our relationship with the most important ally in the region. the people of pakistan will believe that the US is a partner for the long run. This is exactly the best thing to happen, especially for the war on terror. why arent people happy?
Pakistanis hate Americans. With a passion.

We've got 10x's more Indian Americans than Pakistani Americans. Maybe that's why.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-07-24 14:31:28

#14

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7092|UK

Kmarion wrote:
m3thod wrote:
God Save the Queen wrote:
this is really, really good. it will only strengthen the pakistani military and our relationship with the most important ally in the region. the people of pakistan will believe that the US is a partner for the long run. This is exactly the best thing to happen, especially for the war on terror. why arent people happy?
Pakistanis hate Americans. With a passion.
We've got 10x's more Indian Americans than Pakistani Americans. Maybe that's why.

I'm talking about the Pakistanis from the motherland. The ones who wont shut up about how they hate emrica whenever i go back to see family once every 17 years.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-07-24 14:31:41

#15

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7002|SE London

Kmarion wrote:
m3thod wrote:
God Save the Queen wrote:
this is really, really good. it will only strengthen the pakistani military and our relationship with the most important ally in the region. the people of pakistan will believe that the US is a partner for the long run. This is exactly the best thing to happen, especially for the war on terror. why arent people happy?
Pakistanis hate Americans. With a passion.
We've got 10x's more Indian Americans than Pakistani Americans. Maybe that's why.

That makes perfect sense. There are 10x more Indians than Pakistanis.

2008-07-24 14:39:06

#16

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|7137

it's good to have them on our side... we aren't giving them Raptors...lol... If they got squirelly with the F16s(Lawn Darts as my Crew Chief friend calls them)... i'm sure our AF could deal with it...

Love is the answer

2008-07-24 14:42:12

#17

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7002|SE London

[TUF]Catbox wrote:
it's good to have them on our side... we aren't giving them Raptors...lol... If they got squirelly with the F16s(Lawn Darts as my Crew Chief friend calls them)... i'm sure our AF could deal with it...

Surely armoured ground vehicles would be of far more use than fighter jets, against terrorists anyway. This is all about getting the aid money back into the US economy. They should've bought bradleys or something, then most of the money would go into the British economy......

2008-07-24 15:33:19

#18

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6764|tropical regions of london

Bertster7 wrote:
[TUF]Catbox wrote:
it's good to have them on our side... we aren't giving them Raptors...lol... If they got squirelly with the F16s(Lawn Darts as my Crew Chief friend calls them)... i'm sure our AF could deal with it...
Surely armoured ground vehicles would be of far more use than fighter jets, against terrorists anyway. This is all about getting the aid money back into the US economy. They should've bought bradleys or something, then most of the money would go into the British economy......

I think its all about showing the pakistani government that we will remain an ally for the long run.

They cant buy bradleys. The Army is in fact having a bradley shortage at the moment. The last ones built were from the mid 90's. Need some new legislature in congress if we even want to think of producing more. All we're doing is refurbishing the suckers.

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2008-07-24 15:34:38

#19

usmarine2: Banned; +233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

f-16's are old new anyway. especially the ones they have.

2008-07-24 15:35:36

#20

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7021|132 and Bush

Bertster7 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
m3thod wrote:

Pakistanis hate Americans. With a passion.
We've got 10x's more Indian Americans than Pakistani Americans. Maybe that's why.
That makes perfect sense. There are 10x more Indians than Pakistanis.

Glad I could help.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-07-24 15:35:38

#21

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6764|tropical regions of london

better than bi planes

2008-07-24 15:35:58

#22

usmarine2: Banned; +233|6212|Dublin, Ohio

and the brits gave israel nukes. what is your point?

2008-07-24 15:47:48

#23

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6764|tropical regions of london

f16's are better than bi planes with a pilot dropping molotovs out with his arm.

2008-07-24 15:49:52

#24

God Save the Queen: Banned; +628|6764|tropical regions of london

m3thod wrote:
God Save the Queen wrote:
this is really, really good. it will only strengthen the pakistani military and our relationship with the most important ally in the region. the people of pakistan will believe that the US is a partner for the long run. This is exactly the best thing to happen, especially for the war on terror. why arent people happy?
Pakistanis hate Americans. With a passion.

why do you think that is?

2008-07-24 15:51:44

#25

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|6991|Portland, OR, USA

I love to see my tax dollars at work doing absolutely nothing for me.

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