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2008-07-24 21:49:16
OrangeHound
Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...
+1,335|7070|Washington DC

HurricaИe wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


...and? Given the choice between an easy job with minimum wage and a hard job with minimum wage, guess which one most people would pick...
Given the choice between a hard job at minimum wage and no job at all, many homeless select the latter ... that's why they are homeless (yeah, I work with them too).
I'd work a hard job, it's just that I'd rather have an easy job.
Sure.  I understand ...

Last year, there was a mother who was concerned that her 15 year old son was too spoiled and soft.  He did nothing but watch TV, play on the computer, and text message friends.  She wanted him to get out and discover the meaning of work, so she asked if I would hire him to help with some of the massive amounts of stuff I have to do around here.  I hired him to do landscaping ... basically hauling and spreading out about 20 cubic yards of mulch.  Four hours later, he had moved about 8 wheel barrels of mulch ... and I found him sitting in the shade claiming that he was exhausted.  Pathetic.

Crap, my 7 year old son can do better than that.  He and I then spent the next 7-8 hours moving the remaining 19 yards of mulch - our shirts were soaked in sweat - and my son was like a steam shovel.  He's learning what it means to bear down, grit his teeth and do some real work.  Sure, someday he may be in a suit and tie in a temp controlled office, but he will have learned a work ethic that he can use for the rest of his life.



P.S.  Work starts at 6 am ... oh, and no bathroom so you'll need to hold your piss for 8 hours.  That should harden you the f*** up. 
2008-07-24 21:55:36
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6382|Washington DC

OrangeHound wrote:

P.S.  Work starts at 6 am ... oh, and no bathroom so you'll need to hold your piss for 8 hours.  That should harden you the f*** up. 
instead of fixing your porch you should consider installing a toilet and some plumbing
2008-07-24 22:07:55
OrangeHound
Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...
+1,335|7070|Washington DC

HurricaИe wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

P.S.  Work starts at 6 am ... oh, and no bathroom so you'll need to hold your piss for 8 hours.  That should harden you the f*** up. 
instead of fixing your porch you should consider installing a toilet and some plumbing
Oh I have plenty of toilets.  It is just that if you work very hard in the hot sun, you won't need to piss ... your body somehow conserves all water and keeps it out of your bladder.

On the other hand, if you don't work hard ... then you'll need to piss ... so, you'll just have to hold it. 
2008-07-24 22:13:36
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6786|California
hurricane, apply for a packing job, that will definately get you in, well it does here in california
2008-07-24 22:18:27
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6382|Washington DC

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

hurricane, apply for a packing job, that will definately get you in, well it does here in california
you mean like working at UPS or do you mean working at a grocery store putting shit on the shelves?
2008-07-24 22:39:31
Home
Section.80
+447|7268|Seattle, Washington, USA

I've found that when you're 16 and apply to higher quality stores like Best Buy, you won't get hired because they have a lot of applications from older kids that they can use. Do you already have work experience to put on your app?

Also, it helps to not get a job this late in the summer. Most of them are taken already.
2008-07-24 22:42:26
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6574|what

HurricaИe wrote:

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

hurricane, apply for a packing job, that will definately get you in, well it does here in california
you mean like working at UPS or do you mean working at a grocery store putting shit on the shelves?
It's not that bad. If your a sneaky bastard you can keep a pet spider.
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2008-07-24 22:44:10
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6382|Washington DC

Home wrote:

Also, it helps to not get a job this late in the summer. Most of them are taken already.
I know, but I was also thinking of extending it through the school year.

And yeah I put my volunteer experience (last summer and this summer) down...
2008-07-24 23:30:30
Zilla
Killa of threads
+122|7062|7th level of hell

Hurri, the EASIEST way to find out where you stand with jobs you've applied for is... CALL THEM.
ring them up, "Hello, this is Hurricane, I put in a application x days ago and I was wondering if you've had a chance to look it over."
this not only lets them know you are really committed to working there, but if they do decide not to hire you, they will tell you, "Sorry, we've decided to go a with a higher qualified applicant" etc. or, "we've taken you application under consideration, and you're being considered" or whatever. you'll know where you stand, and if you need to give up worrying about it or not.
ALWAYS follow up a application a few days later with a call to the hiring manager.
also, Apply for EVERYTHING. if you get a job making minimum, take, and keep applying. eventually you'll get to a place where you're content with the $$$/work/job. you'll never be 100% happy, 100% of the time. and while your working that shit job while waiting/applying for something better, you're making MONIES, and gaining EXP ETC.


1. Get low paying job
2. Apply for better paying job
3. ????
4. Profit!



Cerealsly give the hiring managers a call, what do you have to lose?
2008-07-24 23:33:10
Home
Section.80
+447|7268|Seattle, Washington, USA

HurricaИe wrote:

Home wrote:

Also, it helps to not get a job this late in the summer. Most of them are taken already.
I know, but I was also thinking of extending it through the school year.

And yeah I put my volunteer experience (last summer and this summer) down...
You will have a much better chance getting hired later when the school year starts and a bunch of kids quit because they were just looking for a summer job.
2008-07-25 03:44:43
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7067
It's those damn Mexicans. They took yer jawb!

Or maybe you are applying to places right now that aren't hiring?
2008-07-25 05:12:16
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6914|Connecticut

HurricaИe wrote:

cowami wrote:

isn't hurricat like 16

in that case, it might just be your age that's in the way (that, and working papers)
I'm 17 in 2 months, and I've been a permanent resident for about a month as well...
Most corporations such as Best Buy will not hire people under 18. Reason being there are availability conflicts that prohibit minors from working certain hours and you are unable to operate machinery like a trash compactor or a cardboard bailer. Although it is illegal to discriminate against age they just chalk it up to the fact that they can hire someone else who is a "better" qualified candidate because they do not have those stupid little restrictions. Besides most managers do not want people who have resricted availability anyways. Part of their fiscal responsibility is to manage the bottom line, in other words to be profitable and that can prove difficult when you can't streamline your wages. Companies like Best Buy, Walmart,  Sears, Target, etc want fewer employees who they can cross train and accomplish multiple tasks. That allows them to keep their wage goals under control, pay them just barely enough to be happy and create an environment where non essential positions are expendable with high turnover, except without any long term repercussions.

Stick it out at a carwash or a hot dog shack until you are 18, then go conquor the world.
Malloy must go
2008-07-25 05:29:41
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7042|London, England

OrangeHound wrote:

Construction at OrangeHound's ... high temps & humidity ... heavy lifting ...  sweating ... muscle aches ... gnats & mosquitoes ... low pay.    But, you'll feel satisfied that you've put in a hard days work. 

(Worked all day today.  I've got to get this deck/porch and millwork done by August 23 when the painting crews arrive.)
If I could take you up on that, I would

srsly
2008-07-25 05:33:01
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7072|USA

HurricaИe wrote:

A few weeks ago, I realized I should get a job. Asides from the obvious benefit of getting money (yes, I'm "under the roof" of my parents, but while they don't mind paying for food and shit they do mind paying for my gaming...), a job would teach me responsibility and such.

So I applied to Best Buy... I think I'm a pretty solid candidate for what amounts to showing people where merchandise is and trying to sell it to them. I get good grades, go to a very good school, and I have experience working with people at my volunteer job (if you can handle angry and slightly nutty homeless people you can handle anything). Honestly, I don't want to sound arrogant but I think I'm just as knowledgeable and approachable as any person working there. Yet I still haven't heard a thing from them! I have no idea whether or not they've denied my application because these asshats don't have the courtesy to tell you.

So then a few days ago I decided to apply for AMC theatres and a local ice cream shop as well. Once again, I think I'm a pretty solid candidate. I'm a bit worried that the stupid personality test for AMC/Best Buy (they use the same generic application from some company called Unicru) is what screwed me over - it's basically a bunch of questions like "Can people tell if you're angry?" that would be better found out in an interview.

It's not like I'm demanding to be the manager of a store, or like I'm demanding $20 an hour. What the hell am I doing wrong?
why do ya need a job, Obama will be president soon and all of the acvievers in life will flip YOUR bill. No problem..
2008-07-25 05:47:41
too_money2007
Member
+145|6729|Keller, Tx
If you can't get a job at a movie theatre, there's something wrong. My first job was at a theatre, and I was hired on the spot, worked my way up to management and used that as a building block to get to my current job now (no longer in the theatre business).
2008-07-25 06:57:24
latinolink
plop plop flop flop
+11|7078|west liberty IA

HurricaИe wrote:

Home wrote:

Also, it helps to not get a job this late in the summer. Most of them are taken already.
I know, but I was also thinking of extending it through the school year.

And yeah I put my volunteer experience (last summer and this summer) down...
You can take my way if the place your applying is hiring then let them know that you are the person in a way be a dick about it if you want the job then give them a call and tell them if you should be wasting your own time waiting for a answer to see that your hired or not. That's how it work for me now I'm working at the grocery store that I want to since it benefits me for college (and also the fact about everyone I work with are real good friends of mine).
2008-07-25 08:58:20
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6868|Boulder, CO

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Construction at OrangeHound's ... high temps & humidity ... heavy lifting ...  sweating ... muscle aches ... gnats & mosquitoes ... low pay.    But, you'll feel satisfied that you've put in a hard days work. 

(Worked all day today.  I've got to get this deck/porch and millwork done by August 23 when the painting crews arrive.)
If I could take you up on that, I would

srsly
Same, i'm doing things like that for relatives at the moment, minus the gnats and mosquitos but plus huge areas of pampas grass with dammed razor sharp leaves, bastard things.
2008-07-25 09:04:13
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6786|California

HurricaИe wrote:

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

hurricane, apply for a packing job, that will definately get you in, well it does here in california
you mean like working at UPS or do you mean working at a grocery store putting shit on the shelves?
Actually I meant like packing fruits, like in california :p
2008-07-25 10:16:03
OrangeHound
Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...
+1,335|7070|Washington DC

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

hurricane, apply for a packing job, that will definately get you in, well it does here in california
you mean like working at UPS or do you mean working at a grocery store putting shit on the shelves?
Actually I meant like packing fruits, like in california :p
Washington DC doesn't have jobs like that ....
2008-07-25 11:31:45
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6382|Washington DC

too_money2007 wrote:

If you can't get a job at a movie theatre, there's something wrong. My first job was at a theatre, and I was hired on the spot, worked my way up to management and used that as a building block to get to my current job now (no longer in the theatre business).
I applied like two days ago.

edit: i have a fear that it has to do with my social security. You see, when I got my green card, there was a letter from USCIS that mentioned having to go to the Social Security Administration to get a new SS card that doesn't have the "NOT AUTHORIZED FOR EMPLOYMENT" stamp on it. But I don't know whether I also change my SSN or not. Cause if so... FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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2008-07-25 11:42:57
NateW
my sigs worse than yours
+191|6553

OrangeHound wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

P.S.  Work starts at 6 am ... oh, and no bathroom so you'll need to hold your piss for 8 hours.  That should harden you the f*** up. 
instead of fixing your porch you should consider installing a toilet and some plumbing
Oh I have plenty of toilets.  It is just that if you work very hard in the hot sun, you won't need to piss ... your body somehow conserves all water and keeps it out of your bladder.

On the other hand, if you don't work hard ... then you'll need to piss ... so, you'll just have to hold it. 
[off topic]
It's been a tradition on my mom's side of the family to get into the roofing industry, My grandpa sold roofing supplies and both my uncles work in a well sized roofing company out here. I don't know about 8 hour days but I love helping my uncles when they work on relatives houses, anything from tear offs to putting on new shingles, shit even framing can be fun. I know some people don't like how intense it is, but sometimes afterwards it feels pretty good. Plus it's a good workout, both my uncles eat like horses and are in their early to mid 40's and are still is great shape. But when you said you hardly piss It reminded me how my uncle was telling me how the crews usually keep jars of pickles up on the roofs so they can keep up their sodium throughout the day. I figure I'll probably go out next summer after graduation with them before I enlist.
[/off topic]


Anyways Hurricane it probably wouldn't be too hard for you to get a job with a landscaping/painting/roofing/contruction company, they usually hire lots of kids in the summer.
2008-07-25 12:18:12
Home
Section.80
+447|7268|Seattle, Washington, USA

NateWiese wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


instead of fixing your porch you should consider installing a toilet and some plumbing
Oh I have plenty of toilets.  It is just that if you work very hard in the hot sun, you won't need to piss ... your body somehow conserves all water and keeps it out of your bladder.

On the other hand, if you don't work hard ... then you'll need to piss ... so, you'll just have to hold it. 
Anyways Hurricane it probably wouldn't be too hard for you to get a job with a landscaping/painting/roofing/contruction company, they usually hire lots of kids in the summer.
Keep in mind, if you decide to go that route, it will be hard work. I work landscaping part time, and you have to work your ass off to stand out. From my experience they usually pay nicely though.
2008-07-25 12:21:07
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6963|Texas - Bigger than France
You can always arrest Condeleesa Rice and get $5,000.
2008-07-26 01:51:48
liquix
Member
+51|6875|Peoples Republic of Portland

HurricaИe wrote:

cowami wrote:

isn't hurricat like 16

in that case, it might just be your age that's in the way (that, and working papers)
I'm 17 in 2 months, and I've been a permanent resident for about a month as well...
best buy doesn't like to hire minors. Furthermore, your personal evaluation of your character is null and void in this situation. In order to attain the job, you must understand who and what Best buy is looking for. Having never seen or met you, most of us have no idea if you really are the type of person who should be at best buy.

That being said, see it as a blessing. I worked at best buy when I was in High School for a month or so, before my boss refused to pay me. Several employees being abandoned during multiple training days shows poor management, and a poor company. Like the others have said, attempt to find an internship or a waiter/busser job.

Another option is to really look at what you'd like to do, and see what you are really good at. Be sure to keep these factors foremost in your mind, often times when you get a McJob it will be quite fleeting. When you go for a jbo you love to do, you'll climb the ladders faster and find yourself excited to go to work.

Good luck
2008-07-26 05:55:29
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6527|eXtreme to the maX
Oh I have plenty of toilets.  It is just that if you work very hard in the hot sun, you won't need to piss ... your body somehow conserves all water and keeps it out of your bladder.
Thats not good for you - seriously - your body needs to get rid of the waste it produces, or you'll get cystits, bladder cancer, arthritis, gout....

Jobs - figure out what the employer wants and demonstrate to them you have it.
Sounds simple but people don't do it.

If they want clean and tidy turn up clean and tidy.
If they want happy smiley and you're an emo - try something else.

Playing companies off against each other is just annoying - although it can work. At a high level OK, if its putting the jam in donuts - unlikely.
Better to impress them THIS is the job you want because putting jam in donuts is your dream and their company is the best damn jam pumping company in the state with the greatest reputation.
If it comes off fake at least maybe both sides get a laugh.
Better than 'I need some money for my internetz, donuts - meh'.
Fuck Israel

 

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