Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7094
Does anyone else not hate when servers use this phrase to justify uncapable baserape? Or just when people use it in general?

It's not war. It's a game. I'm sorry I don't have 4 gigs of ram so I don't show up right away like you do. Does this mean I deserve to have you stand right in front of the spot where I stand and go "lol, another knife kill"? No. Does this mean I deserve to have 2 tanks in our carrier in our base killing any air units before they can take off? No. War is hell, but this is a game. Games are meant to be fun. Spawn killing like that is just as bad as any other exploit. It's like an adult beating a defenseless child while laughing and saying "It's not my fault I was born before you".

Oh, and I'm not talking about spawn camping alone although IMO it does take the cake as the worst offence to the phrase. There are other rather shady unfair practices out there as well.
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|7148
If spawncamping wasnt meant to be possible, the carrier wouldnt have 2 gigantic gun/missile launcher turrets at each end, and it probably wouldnt be possible to go out their as a member of the opposing team. Perhaps a game like counterstrike would better suit you, where each side spawns at the same time, away from each other, and theres none of this nasty spawncamping business to upset your fragile sense of fair play.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7094
Sigh... Here's an idea. Go get some skill, beat me that way, then brag. That I don't mind. And no, I wouldn't prefer CS. I still very much like BF2. I have over 500 hours and pretty good stats. Unlike you, I don't enjoy a onesided afair. Fair fights are much more fun.
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|7148
I would say that it takes plenty of skill to set up a good spawncamp, because your team didnt start out trapped on the carrier with the legions of hell surrounding you and no escape; the game started fairly, and they made it unfair by kicking your asses. And I didn't say spawncamping is anything to brag about, its pretty easy really. But it's also the only logical course of action when the only enemies are in their spawn. Yes it sucks, yes it's unpleasant, but as the thread title says... "deal with it". Its not like I've never been camped.
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|7216|Human Meat Shield
I've been camped alot on Wake, because it does take awhile to get on the mainland; My computer is like molasses, so I am probably the last to enter. I don't mind sometimes but it doesn't take any skill to sit in a chopper and strafe back and forth, when the China crap chopper is on the island and the other is on the Essex, over and over, sometimes you are hoping those same people switch sides. Or in Ghost Town everyone and thier mother is rushing towards the uncap to rape because they know the only two spots they can spawn, what fun is that?? I just don't spawn and look to another server that is mature.
Pr0t0c0l@[GP]
Member
+-2|7082

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Does anyone else not hate when servers use this phrase to justify uncapable baserape? Or just when people use it in general?

It's not war. It's a game. I'm sorry I don't have 4 gigs of ram so I don't show up right away like you do. Does this mean I deserve to have you stand right in front of the spot where I stand and go "lol, another knife kill"? No. Does this mean I deserve to have 2 tanks in our carrier in our base killing any air units before they can take off? No. War is hell, but this is a game. Games are meant to be fun. Spawn killing like that is just as bad as any other exploit. It's like an adult beating a defenseless child while laughing and saying "It's not my fault I was born before you".

Oh, and I'm not talking about spawn camping alone although IMO it does take the cake as the worst offence to the phrase. There are other rather shady unfair practices out there as well.
I hate spawn camping, spawn raping, base camping without having any intention to capture flags! This should be stopped inmediatly but many people aren't so far! Look at the world today! People who disagree with me are just ignorant and therefor not capable!

Last edited by Pr0t0c0l@[GP] (2006-03-03 04:44:42)

Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7094

Skruples wrote:

I would say that it takes plenty of skill to set up a good spawncamp, because your team didnt start out trapped on the carrier with the legions of hell surrounding you and no escape; the game started fairly, and they made it unfair by kicking your asses. And I didn't say spawncamping is anything to brag about, its pretty easy really. But it's also the only logical course of action when the only enemies are in their spawn. Yes it sucks, yes it's unpleasant, but as the thread title says... "deal with it". Its not like I've never been camped.
I don't really mind if everyone starts at the same time, has an equal advantage, and then owns enough to set up a good spawn camp. I can understand that. Usually round 2 of a two round server is much more fun because of that. Hell, I play TWL and Nato matches so I had better understand that. But I mean on public servers it's a different story.
I2elik
Member
+12|7200|Perth, Western Australia
Erm..for example, a tank is spawn camping, the most logical thing is to spawn as an ANTI TANK and take the bastard down! God, you bitches are as annoying as those godamn Ewoks from Return of The Jedi >_>
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7141|Howell, Mi USA
i hate when servers say no baserape or spawn camp. y don't they tell us how to fight the "war" some more. besides theres always some noob who says your "baseraping" when u go to their flag and kill more then 2 people from INSIDE FLAG RANGE! Thats not baserape thats trying to cap their flag and pwning bitches for lunch.

Last edited by Cbass (2006-03-03 08:05:48)

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Dr.Battlefield
Got milk?
+150|7199
"No baseraping" - this statement often used by "weak" admins  as a cheap reason to kick you. Even if you don't do baserape.
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
+235|7127
Games are meant to be fun . Well this games isn't . This game isn't very "fun" when you look at it . This IS war ! On-line without a clan or base of freinds in a locked server - yup that's war allright . Unless you have a server filled with people who are going to "follow the rules" of that PARTICULAR SERVER you will either A) Have to put up wiith the norm and get your ass kicked like eveyone else or B) Get booted from the server for doing something the admin didn't like . This game isn't designed to be fair it's kill and be killed no matter what . Designing one of the most popular levels with a cappable flag ( KARkand 32 plyr ) is a big mistake and annoys the hell out of everyone but hey , ever hear of defense ?
I can actually understand why some people or admins kick people for base raping because thay have a particular game play they want everyone to follow . Basically it's do nothing but fight and cap flags . If you blow up any asset your gone . Some admins say it's ok to do " a run " meaning drive in , blow stuff up and get out quick - no jumping into tanks and killing re-spawners . And last some people don't give a shit at all what goes on , just as long as you don't go on a team killinng spree .
Find a server that matches your type of fighting prefference and make it a favorite and stick with it .
Get to know the players and have fun if you can . Other wise jumping from server to server randomly will just have you ending up frustrated like you were when writing this thread .
twiistaaa
Member
+87|7116|mexico
ive got no problem with it when uve captured all the flags. if u get everything then uve pushed them back to the uncap anyway. what r u supposed to do just sit around until they retake the map so you can play "fair"? i think even tho when it happens u r likely to lose the map, its ur own fault for being in that position. i remeber one game of 1942 where it was a city map and basically we were stuck in a bottle neck with one flag and getting kicked. every time u'd spawn u would get one guy and be killed by 3. it was mayhem and so much action that it didnt matter, i think since stats r involved in bf2 is the real reason people give a shit about it. have fun, see it as a challenge and come up with a way to get out, if theres a tank be anti tank. if everyone on the team just shot at the chopper with their guns it doesnt actually stay up there that long, its just that people run away because they r to pussy to charge into a death (for the good of the team)
=NAA=TheTaxidermist
Member
+6|7181|In a van down by the river
If you spawn at a flag and you get raped, SPAWN AT ANOTHER FLAG!  It's called dumbass syndrome.  I believe anybody who keeps spawning at a base to get raped has it.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7094
On a sidenote, I'd like to say that my initial rant was not meant to be only about baserape. It was more about using this phrase to justify being a pussy, by doing things like taking a tank into a main at the beginning of a round for easy kills.
kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7291|Bryan/College Station, TX
This is one of the best reasons to play on servers that have 2 rounds on the same map and that force a team switch so that each side has to play the other team 1 round. Gives them both the taste of spawn capping due to map types. If the same thing doesn't happen on the next round then there is only one explanation. The other team is better than your team. Can't argue that logic.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7120|Colorado
Spawn in once & get killed my fault, Spawn in twice & get killed their fault, Spawn in a third time...wtf am I stupid? Dont spawn there, if its the only spawn then wait till things get better or worse, but dont spawn.

Or you could just find a new server which would be another way to deal with it...

On a side note , I condone baseraping if the enemy has no other capturable spawns, wtf are you suppose to do give them a chance ? thats stat padding so the round goes longer.
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|7216|Human Meat Shield
Yeah as the Meat of a Troll said, if you want to rack up the kills for the other person go ahead and spawn, if not just wait until next game, they will get the win pretty fast when no one spawns.

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