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2008-07-25 06:58:24
David.P
Banned
+649|6542
Any ideas?
2008-07-25 07:07:14
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

GeForce 6600GT, GeForce 7300/7600, Radeon X700/X800, Radeon X1600/X1650.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-07-25 07:10:58)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-07-25 07:10:29
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6670|dm_maidenhead
Holy unimformative thread batman.
Current specs? Budget?
2008-07-25 07:16:58
David.P
Banned
+649|6542
Xp2500(1.833ghz), 1 gig ram, and currently the pc has an Mx440.

Budget under 150$.
2008-07-25 07:22:35
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6984
the ATI 3850 is the most powerful agp card... I am considering getting one for an agp system i have...
SAPPHIRE 100228L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102730

and if you can... another gig of ram will help a lot...
Love is the answer
2008-07-25 07:25:40
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6670|dm_maidenhead
this or maybe this for $120.
2008-07-25 09:47:55
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

Catbox and Peter, you gotta realize that his processor is from 2003. A 3850 that is already limited by the AGP bus will be the most extreme overkill you could imagine, and a complete waste of money. The 512MB 7600GT you suggested, Peter, is also the DDR2 version. The 512 DDR2 version of the 7600GT actually performs worse than the 7600GS in a number of applications, and it'd (GT core) also be bottlenecked by his CPU.

AGP cards are really not worth buying new, at the moment, due to the extremely limited supply. I would recommend looking for one second-hand. If you definitly want a new one, I recommend something like this.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-07-25 10:40:51
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

The#1Spot wrote:

for about 150$ you can replace your whole system with an Am2 system.

Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103214
Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231085
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813130542
Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822135106
But that still doesn't have a graphics card.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-07-25 11:04:29
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6808|byah

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

for about 150$ you can replace your whole system with an Am2 system.

Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103214
Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231085
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813130542
Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822135106
But that still doesn't have a graphics card.
Sell off his old system and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500001
2008-07-25 11:08:18
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

The#1Spot wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

for about 150$ you can replace your whole system with an Am2 system.

Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103214
Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231085
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813130542
Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822135106
But that still doesn't have a graphics card.
Sell off his old system and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500001
Sounds like a plan, but that card isn't worth more than the PCB it's printed on, let alone $40.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-07-25 11:47:24
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6808|byah

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


But that still doesn't have a graphics card.
Sell off his old system and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500001
Sounds like a plan, but that card isn't worth more than the PCB it's printed on, let alone $40.
True but look where he is coming from though
2008-07-25 11:53:16
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

The#1Spot wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

Sell off his old system and get this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814500001
Sounds like a plan, but that card isn't worth more than the PCB it's printed on, let alone $40.
True but look where he is coming from though
For $5 more, he can get a card that's 40% faster: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814121095

The DDR2 8600GT is worthless.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-07-25 11:54:19)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2008-07-25 12:39:49
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6985|Riva, MD

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Sounds like a plan, but that card isn't worth more than the PCB it's printed on, let alone $40.
True but look where he is coming from though
For $5 more, he can get a card that's 40% faster: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814121095

The DDR2 8600GT is worthless.
I heard somewhere that the DDR3 version is actually better than the 8800GS but I guess that would be somewhat extreme.

I'll state it again though, I read in a recent article that all of the 8-series with the exception of the 8800s will die very soon in their life because nVidia uses shitty materials that don't tolerate heat cycling very well so you should just avoid them completely and either get an 8800 or something older or newer.
2008-07-25 12:42:33
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6984

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Catbox and Peter, you gotta realize that his processor is from 2003. A 3850 that is already limited by the AGP bus will be the most extreme overkill you could imagine, and a complete waste of money. The 512MB 7600GT you suggested, Peter, is also the DDR2 version. The 512 DDR2 version of the 7600GT actually performs worse than the 7600GS in a number of applications, and it'd (GT core) also be bottlenecked by his CPU.

AGP cards are really not worth buying new, at the moment, due to the extremely limited supply. I would recommend looking for one second-hand. If you definitly want a new one, I recommend something like this.
all he said was that he wanted a card that wouldn't bottleneck his proc...  and the 3850 sure won't do that...lol
I did notice the older proc spec in his post... but he didn't ask about a proc replacement...
my real recommendation is to save up and spend about 800-1000 on a current system
Love is the answer
2008-07-25 13:11:38
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6466|Winland

_j5689_ wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:


True but look where he is coming from though
For $5 more, he can get a card that's 40% faster: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814121095

The DDR2 8600GT is worthless.
I heard somewhere that the DDR3 version is actually better than the 8800GS but I guess that would be somewhat extreme.

I'll state it again though, I read in a recent article that all of the 8-series with the exception of the 8800s will die very soon in their life because nVidia uses shitty materials that don't tolerate heat cycling very well so you should just avoid them completely and either get an 8800 or something older or newer.
The 8600 cards have a problem with heat cycling, but that isn't a concern, as the conditions won't be so extreme. It's mainly laptop chips that go to 100C and back to 20 in a matter of minutes that will have problems.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

 

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