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Vilham wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Really? You dont think there could be aliens out there? Out of the billions of planets? The chance of them having ever visited earth is minute but the chance of them existing elsewhere in the galaxy is far from small.

I am thinking, it wouldn't matter if they did or didn't exist. The chances of them visiting here are near-zero (time & space reasons; not to mention motive or finding a needle in a haystack reasons) - and thus that's the only way they'd deserve the moniker; name; label; "alien." I think they have to visit here to earn the name. I am with m3thod on this, I don't believe in them either because I don't think they've ever visited here, and I've never seen any proof (of visitation) other than utter nonsense. Being agnostic about the possibility of life beyond earth is one thing, but it's a bit nutters to believe in "aliens."

This isn't a case of I cant see god therefore he doesn't exist. This is a case of statistical analysis showing the odds of extra terrestrial life existing somewhere in the galaxy regardless of whether they could even visit us which is unlikely based on the statistics and the average distance there should be between life in the universe.

And if you don't believe there could be other life based on odds of life existing on a habitable planet, and the odds of habitable planets existing out of planets in general, and the odds of suns having planets out of suns in general out there, then I don't see how you think we got here, unless you believe in God creating us and holding us special above all other life, which is blatant shit in my opinion.

I find it a little odd that you utterly missed my point (well, actually I don't as it happens often), so I'll just go down the river with the current red herring seasonal migration flow.

There is no such thing as statistical analysis when comes to either of these two concepts:
a.) The probability of life.
b.) The improbability of life.

There isn't any meaningful statistics or data available in existence (i.e. the Drake equation is pure conjured up nonsense) upon which to make a comparison. Equally, it is utterly ridiculous for a pro-intelligent-design agenda to assert life is improbable - in the face of a possibility realized. There is the possibility that life has existed in every Universe that has ever existed, problem here would be we don't how many is how many and the answer could even be 1. There is the possibility that life is utterly improbable but that wouldn't matter as it needs to be only a greater-than-zero possibility. Considering we do exist - it's at least a greater-than-zero possibility. Beyond that is speculation, and I already said I am agnostic about the possibility of extraterrestrial life; which is utterly different than believing in "aliens" which encapsulates more than that (the possibility of extraterrestrial life) as it implies "visitations to planet Earth."

I don't see were I mentioned God so I don't know why you are bringing that abstraction up, but feel free to flow were ever you want.

topal63 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

topal63 wrote:

I am thinking, it wouldn't matter if they did or didn't exist. The chances of them visiting here are near-zero (time & space reasons; not to mention motive or finding a needle in a haystack reasons) - and thus that's the only way they'd deserve the moniker; name; label; "alien." I think they have to visit here to earn the name. I am with m3thod on this, I don't believe in them either because I don't think they've ever visited here, and I've never seen any proof (of visitation) other than utter nonsense. Being agnostic about the possibility of life beyond earth is one thing, but it's a bit nutters to believe in "aliens."

This isn't a case of I cant see god therefore he doesn't exist. This is a case of statistical analysis showing the odds of extra terrestrial life existing somewhere in the galaxy regardless of whether they could even visit us which is unlikely based on the statistics and the average distance there should be between life in the universe.

And if you don't believe there could be other life based on odds of life existing on a habitable planet, and the odds of habitable planets existing out of planets in general, and the odds of suns having planets out of suns in general out there, then I don't see how you think we got here, unless you believe in God creating us and holding us special above all other life, which is blatant shit in my opinion.

I find it a little odd that you utterly missed my point (well, actually I don't as it happens often), so I'll just go down the river with the current red herring seasonal migration flow.

There is no such thing as statistical analysis when comes to either of these two concepts:
a.) The probability of life.
b.) The improbability of life.

There isn't any meaningful statistics or data available in existence (i.e. the Drake equation is pure conjured up nonsense) upon which to make a comparison. Equally, it is utterly ridiculous for a pro-intelligent-design agenda to assert life is improbable - in the face of a possibility realized. There is the possibility that life has existed in every Universe that has ever existed, problem here would be we don't how many is how many and the answer could even be 1. There is the possibility that life is utterly improbable but that wouldn't matter as it needs to be only a greater-than-zero possibility. Considering we do exist - it's at least a greater-than-zero possibility. Beyond that is speculation, and I already said I am agnostic about the possibility of extraterrestrial life; which is utterly different than believing in "aliens" which encapsulates more than that (the possibility of extraterrestrial life) as it implies "visitations to planet Earth."

I don't see were I mentioned God so I don't know why you are bringing that abstraction up, but feel free to flow were ever you want.

The Drake equation is the best we've got in terms of a hypothesis though..lol.

Kmarion wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

And you still went for the colon option? BTW I've never gone.. I figure they are going to have to give me a heavy sedative of some sorts when I do .

I wasn't even offered a sedative, just a camera on the end of a metal snake.

Sweet feathery jesus

Barium enema used for bowel xray also very bad.

how naive can people be? there is no way that there aren't other life forms out there somewhere; the "universe" is "neverending." don't flatter yourselves by thinking that we're the only ones.

Alien civilisations could be a billion (1000.000.000) years ahead of us. Seriously.

So this thread caused me to have a dream last night that i was at my house and i saw a flying saucer outside the window, so i ran into my dads room and got his glock. Then i was upstairs in my house for some reason and i guess the aliens were coming in, because i remember going to the closet and trying to get his shotgun but while i was in the closet (hiding) i heard my mom shooting off the gun sparatically, im assuming she was killed. So here i am curled up in the corner of the closet and this alien mom and her alien 5-ish-yearold-looking daughter came in and they were staring at the closet i was in and the mom goes "no honey, theres nothing in their 'crunchy'). This was refering to eating me, but i remember the mom knew i was in their.

Then i woke up.

It caused me to do a security overhall of my room, and i found my dads shotguns today and put one in my room. Out of ammo though. (the sound alone would have any burgalar shittin his pants)