BF2S Forums A third of Muslim students back killings

mtb0minime wrote:

Killing in the name of.... *dun dun--DUNT*

That number surprises me. I thought it would've been more like 10% or something. They're always talking about how the younger generations in 1st-world countries aren't extremists and don't believe in killing and all that crap.

Second generation Muslim immigrants actually tend to be more extremist than their parents because of feelings of alienation in the mainstream culture, a naive ignorance of how desperate and oppressive their countries of origin often are, and because there are extremist clerics in countries like Britain that prey on disillusioned Muslim youths.

Basically, the 2nd generation Muslims that fit this description are naive, ignorant pawns.  Thankfully, most 2nd generation Muslims aren't such idiots.

PureFodder wrote:

usmarine wrote:

1973?  can we stick to idk, 2000 or later?

I'm going to bet that after the first attempt, nobody got permission to do a follow up study.

Whats so shocking about that? You interview Palestinian kids and they'd have said the same thing about the Israelies.

It's a super secret that they hate each other so don't tell anybody.

Turquoise wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Killing in the name of.... *dun dun--DUNT*

That number surprises me. I thought it would've been more like 10% or something. They're always talking about how the younger generations in 1st-world countries aren't extremists and don't believe in killing and all that crap.

Second generation Muslim immigrants actually tend to be more extremist than their parents because of feelings of alienation in the mainstream culture, a naive ignorance of how desperate and oppressive their countries of origin often are, and because there are extremist clerics in countries like Britain that prey on disillusioned Muslim youths.

Basically, the 2nd generation Muslims that fit this description are naive, ignorant pawns.  Thankfully, most 2nd generation Muslims aren't such idiots.

It's no wonder many feel alienated, as m3thod has pointed out before, when so many in your society don't mind reminding you that you're "a fucking Paki" at every opportunity it's easy to see why many second or third generation immigrants feel very little affinity towards their adopted home. Add to this some romanticed and unrealistic views about their homeland and a dash of youthful naivity and you have a dangerous cocktail.

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Second generation Muslim immigrants actually tend to be more extremist than their parents because of feelings of alienation in the mainstream culture, a naive ignorance of how desperate and oppressive their countries of origin often are, and because there are extremist clerics in countries like Britain that prey on disillusioned Muslim youths.

Basically, the 2nd generation Muslims that fit this description are naive, ignorant pawns.  Thankfully, most 2nd generation Muslims aren't such idiots.

It's no wonder many feel alienated, as m3thod has pointed out before, when so many in your society don't mind reminding you that you're "a fucking Paki" at every opportunity it's easy to see why many second or third generation immigrants feel very little affinity towards their adopted home. Add to this some romanticed and unrealistic views about their homeland and a dash of youthful naivity and you have a dangerous cocktail.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


Alienation? Gee, I wonder why they would feel alienated or why anyone would want them to.

Great website lowing, outstanding.

Here's one of a similar standard for you: http://www.godhatesamerica.com/

Last edited by Braddock (2008-07-28 06:24:10)

i'd be interested in the rate of change of these statistics rather than just a static figure.  30% becomes 40% becomes 50%, etc - THIS is more worrisome.

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Second generation Muslim immigrants actually tend to be more extremist than their parents because of feelings of alienation in the mainstream culture, a naive ignorance of how desperate and oppressive their countries of origin often are, and because there are extremist clerics in countries like Britain that prey on disillusioned Muslim youths.

Basically, the 2nd generation Muslims that fit this description are naive, ignorant pawns.  Thankfully, most 2nd generation Muslims aren't such idiots.

It's no wonder many feel alienated, as m3thod has pointed out before, when so many in your society don't mind reminding you that you're "a fucking Paki" at every opportunity it's easy to see why many second or third generation immigrants feel very little affinity towards their adopted home. Add to this some romanticed and unrealistic views about their homeland and a dash of youthful naivity and you have a dangerous cocktail.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


Alienation? Gee, I wonder why they would feel alienated or why anyone would want them to.

Maybe you didn't have dogs set on when you were 5 years old because you're a paki?  I sure it was all fine and dandy in your exclusive white only suburb where you were born and raised and no doubt currently dwell.  I was actually talking to a black colleague of mine today at a meeting about integration and he was quote "absolutely battered for being black, i mean i didn't get up".  we're talking about the 60's, 70's and my case 80's.

Alienation stems from reasons a lot older than grouping all Muslims under the the current fad of Al Qaeda.   And I hope you realise that website you constantly spam harms your already deranged argument?

lol..

and you bitch about other peoples links.  lol

those 5 year old pakis really do deserve that alienation

lowing wrote:

Nice site Cam, any "news" articles in there that are LESS than 4 years old?

The site I posted is updated everyday, ya know why? Because it CAN be.

I'm sure murder, rape and beatings occurs everyday in America too. Perhaps we should start a website covering that.

usmarine wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Perhaps we should start a website covering that.

www.bf2s.com

haha


lowing.  the same logic you use in your argument against islam could be used against the United States.

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Nice site Cam, any "news" articles in there that are LESS than 4 years old?

The site I posted is updated everyday, ya know why? Because it CAN be.

I'm sure murder, rape and beatings occurs everyday in America too. Perhaps we should start a website covering that.

Only you would think a murder in the US is the same thing as what is being done in the name of Islam all over the world.

lowing wrote:

m3thod wrote:

lowing wrote:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


Alienation? Gee, I wonder why they would feel alienated or why anyone would want them to.

Maybe you didn't have dogs set on when you were 5 years old because you're a paki?  I sure it was all fine and dandy in your exclusive white only suburb where you were born and raised and no doubt currently dwell.  I was actually talking to a black colleague of mine today at a meeting about integration and he was quote "absolutely battered for being black, i mean i didn't get up".  we're talking about the 60's, 70's and my case 80's.

Alienation stems from reasons a lot older than grouping all Muslims under the the current fad of Al Qaeda.   And I hope you realise that website you constantly spam harms your already deranged argument?

Why is that? Is there something posted on that website that ISN'T true? If so, by all means show me what it is.

Because it a website reporting crimes committed by muslims.  It's dumb, bias and only attacts the stupid.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 … y_13_.html

This is terrorism? Sure is according to your website.  And anyway terrorism is in the eye of the beholder.

m3thod wrote:

lowing wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Maybe you didn't have dogs set on when you were 5 years old because you're a paki?  I sure it was all fine and dandy in your exclusive white only suburb where you were born and raised and no doubt currently dwell.  I was actually talking to a black colleague of mine today at a meeting about integration and he was quote "absolutely battered for being black, i mean i didn't get up".  we're talking about the 60's, 70's and my case 80's.

Alienation stems from reasons a lot older than grouping all Muslims under the the current fad of Al Qaeda.   And I hope you realise that website you constantly spam harms your already deranged argument?

Why is that? Is there something posted on that website that ISN'T true? If so, by all means show me what it is.

Because it a website reporting crimes committed by muslims.  It's dumb, bias and only attacts the stupid.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 … y_13_.html

This is terrorism? Sure is according to your website.  And anyway terrorism is in the eye of the beholder.

Is the story untrue? Is anything in the site untrue? Is any of the websites that this site links have anything in it that is untrue.



you guys are killing me. Any site that contradicts your argument is biased, and any site that supports your argument is the REAL truth...It is getting tiresome.