Easy_4TH
Member
+2|7090
here's the thing.  in real life, anyway, guns are suppossed to be close to 100% accurate on the first shot, if not 100%.  why do people complain that the PKM is so good because you can hit shit with the first shot?  are you suggesting that they should bend the barrel a little so the first shot never hits?  they should make it physically impossible to know where your bullet is going?  guns are made to shoot and hit targets.  thats what they do.  if your only complaint about the support class is that the guns are actually accurate for once, then shut up. 

also, if your complaint is damage, then also please shut up.  these guns are HUGE and have enormous bullets to go with them.  hence, they do a lot of damage with, theoretically, good accuracy. 

any more complaints?
CrazeD
Member
+368|7120|Maine
The M-249 fires a 5.56mm NATO round... that's not enormous, an M16 fires the same caliber round.

I think people are just mad because the support weapons are realistic now, as in, extremely effective. A light machine gun typically isn't that accurate, but when you're spewing ~600 RPM downrange, being highly accurate doesn't matter, as you're very likely to hit them anyway.
airborne916
Member
+24|7112
Just becaus e the pkm is a good gun people hate it/ Think about it the support is 1. slow so sniper can get an easy kill 2. he shoots alot which makes him stick out for snipers. 3. people need the support class like they need the medic class. Not enought people play support because befor the patch the class sucked so hard. people need to shut up and talk about that damn new sniper, i get killed with that thing 5x more than i do with a pkm.

plus it has a 45 dmg because it fires a 7.62 round which is very big.

Last edited by airborne916 (2006-03-03 12:30:00)

fungus020
Member
+0|7220|London - England
the thing about real life accuracy is it depends on the person using the weapon.. the better people will be able to hit very accuratly and with a tight grouping and some just cant.. so like i said it varys. but they cant very well do it in a game.
l41e
Member
+677|7095

7.62x54, I think the biggest rifle round in modern service...
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7141|Howell, Mi USA
i don't understand the beef about the PKM. ive been playing support for a while now and i always use the MG36 which is very effective for me. after the patch i hear about the "PKM sniper rifle" so i try it out and i don't see a diffrence, it's like the same gun. ill stick with the MG36.
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Corrupt
Member
+0|7288

k30dxedle wrote:

7.62x54, I think the biggest rifle round in modern service...
Excluding large calibre vehicle mounted .50 and anti material rifles aye. I still prefer my 5.56 LSW though with cadets as opposed to the GPMG...lots lighter and easier to carry, and i can easier steal ammo from other section members.
ArMaG3dD0n
Member
+24|7282|Deutschland/Germany
When will people understand this is a damned GAME it is NOT REAL LIFE. A GAME is about BALANCE!! If some weapons are NOT balanced which could mean they are too strong or too weak compared to the other weapons people will complain. Look maybe you did not understand it yet so here s an example:
Let s say EA introduces a tactical nuke in the next patch. At the beginning of every round everyone would run to get to the nuke first. The first one to get control over the nuke would fire it at the other team. Everything would explode and the round would end withing 10 seconds. Of course people would start to complain. Would you then still say:"OMG a nuke is a fuckin big rocket u know and in real life it just blows everything up so its really good the way it is."

@Cbass you CAN NOT deny that the support guns are 10000% better with the new patch. Everyone can see that. I would even say it is a LOT too good now since I usually end up with 40kills/10deaths when I use it.
killaer
Member
+41|7165

Cbass wrote:

i don't understand the beef about the PKM. ive been playing support for a while now and i always use the MG36 which is very effective for me. after the patch i hear about the "PKM sniper rifle" so i try it out and i don't see a diffrence, it's like the same gun. ill stick with the MG36.
No? I was playing ghost map, decide to get myself a PKM.

See just How accurate it is...

First enemy I see is a sniper staring at me.

"Oh shit.."

Well, I run prone, and shoot maybe 5-10 bullets at the guy. First few bullets connect and I get a headshot. This should NOT happen. I bet the sniper was pissed as hell, I know I would be. Getting headshotted by a PKM as a sniper is BS.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7223|Antwerp, Flanders

killaer wrote:

Cbass wrote:

i don't understand the beef about the PKM. ive been playing support for a while now and i always use the MG36 which is very effective for me. after the patch i hear about the "PKM sniper rifle" so i try it out and i don't see a diffrence, it's like the same gun. ill stick with the MG36.
No? I was playing ghost map, decide to get myself a PKM.

See just How accurate it is...

First enemy I see is a sniper staring at me.

"Oh shit.."

Well, I run prone, and shoot maybe 5-10 bullets at the guy. First few bullets connect and I get a headshot. This should NOT happen. I bet the sniper was pissed as hell, I know I would be. Getting headshotted by a PKM as a sniper is BS.
Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't. There are times i go prone with the PKM and fire a single round at a prone enemy looking at me and he's dead on the spot. Other times I fire like 5 single shots but don't hit **** in the same situation. So there are times I get hits at insane distances but other times my rounds keep ending up all over the place except where they need to be.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7112|NT, like Mick Dundee

As stated by other people, it is not the accuracy that is the issue. Its the fact that it has the killer headshot, that combined with a single shot accuracy as good as the AK's or better is the issue... The bloody thing seems to kill me before I can get a shot off....

And for mid distance combat it beats my G3 on single shot every time... which shouldn't happen...

Last edited by Flecco (2006-03-03 14:46:58)

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7223|Antwerp, Flanders

Flecco wrote:

As stated by other people, it is not the accuracy that is the issue. Its the fact that it has the killer headshot, that combined with a single shot accuracy as good as the AK's or better is the issue... The bloody thing seems to kill me before I can get a shot off....

And for mid distance combat it beats my G3 on single shot every time... which shouldn't happen...
Well, if you ever manage to get to close range, draw your knife and stab away at that sucker. Believe me, those PKM boys don't like being knifed when they see u comin.
Blak7hursday
Member
+0|7085
My complaint about the PKM is that its being used as an oversized assault rifle, the accuracy to too good when they are standing or crouched and they are devastating in close. I'm not sure how they would do it, but I think if they could some how represent the bulk and weight of the weapon it would help, as in it couldn't be swung around as quickly as a rifle or smg. I think its fine when proned. Slower draw times or setup times would be good too, same goes for the AT missiles.
ApacheCobra
Pwninator
+13|7083|NJ
all guns are close to perfectly accurate (except like ancient ones like musket and single shot pistols)
its just the breathing that flaws ur aiming and the recoil that flaws ur aiming
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7120|Colorado
They complain cause they don't know what else to do, they certainly can't adapt to the new patch.

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