yes, lets say that very thing.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Oh I know about your prophet, I know alot about your fucking prophet... moreso than the average "Islam is a peaceful religion" Muslim too. Let's just say that the crazy Muslims are the guys that are the true followers of Muhammad.
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Lowing this is just another of your conspiracy theories, this time one you believe is directed at you. How can you have any idea the backgrounds of everyone who disagrees with you?lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, just a tiny percentage of Americans are murdered in a year yet with your logic you should not be condoning the removal of all our guns, yet, you do....Consistency Braddock. I know my beliefs are not popular with those on this forum, [h]especially those who do not work or pay any bills or are raising a family, but at least I am consistent with my them.[h]
Conspiracy theory? what are you talking about?TheAussieReaper wrote:
Lowing this is just another of your conspiracy theories, this time one you believe is directed at you. How can you have any idea the backgrounds of everyone who disagrees with you?lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, just a tiny percentage of Americans are murdered in a year yet with your logic you should not be condoning the removal of all our guns, yet, you do....Consistency Braddock. I know my beliefs are not popular with those on this forum, [h]especially those who do not work or pay any bills or are raising a family, but at least I am consistent with my them.[h]
I personally think your one of the most intolerant and racist people I've ever witnessed over the internet let alone real life and have learned very quickly you equate one extreme example, with another.
How would you solve the so called Muslim problem?
That's what I'd like to know.
Do you deport them, convert them, imprison?
Please enlighten me.
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Exactly they are integrating into an increasingly atheist Europe. It is only natural that generation after generation of Muslim families in Europe will become less religious.topal63 wrote:
I have two Muslim friends, they are fairly religious people. Their kids on the other hand are barely religious and the oldest ones not at all.PureFodder wrote:
Nothing kills religious conviction faster that living in the UK. Even the most devoutly religious parents only have statistically a 50:50 chance of raising a religious kid here.
The last UK census found more Jedis than Jews.
21. I currently work as an IT consultant. Final 6 months of my 4 year university degree in Information Technology. I help support my family, but do live at home with my parents. Saving up money to move out soon.lowing wrote:
How old are you, do you have a career? Are you paying a mortgage/bills? are you raising a family? Have you even left home yet?
I agree that radical Islam is a problem. Yet you seem to equate Islam constantly with the radical minority who are extremists. They are called extremists for a reason. They are too extreme in their dedication to martyrdom and killings. This is not a typical Islamist.lowing wrote:
I do not think we have a Muslim problem. I think the world has a radical Islam problem, and it is time to stop ignoring it or shadowing it with political correctness.
Who are the lazy, non-producers in your society Lowing? Is it the unemployed? Surely you don't think everyone who is unemployed is so due to laziness.lowing wrote:
You think I am intolerant. If you are referring to the lazy, non-producers under-achievers in society, you bet your ass I am as intolerant as I can get.
I'm sure I can come up with something you've said that is racist. And to keep it within the context of this thread, I'll use a quote from this thread:lowing wrote:
You think I am a racist, I defy you to post anything I have said that was racist, Try to keep it in context with the thread if you can.
Hate the radical extremists, not Islam. That's what I'd like to see from you. And I know it's very unlikely, but the world isn't simply black & white.lowing wrote:
Oh and as said before a phobia is a fear. I do not fear Islam, I just hate it.
Haha - Lowing looks like you're spending way too much time lying about the house faping at your keyboard or jerking off too Ann Coulters "how to talk to a Liberal" what with all your ill gotten gains from your war profiteering around the middle east..lowing wrote:
How old are you, do you have a career? Are you paying a mortgage/bills? are you raising a family? Have you even left home yet?
I do not think we have a Muslim problem. I think the world has a radical Islam problem, and it is time to stop ignoring it or shadowing it with political correctness.
You think I am intolerant. If you are referring to the lazy, non-producers under-achievers in society, you bet your ass I am as intolerant as I can get.
You think I am a racist, I defy you to post anything I have said that was racist, Try to keep it in context with the thread if you can.
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A weak comparison lowing, all guns are designed to kill and maim and hence I am happier living in a society where gun ownership is strictly controlled, all Muslims however are not 'designed' to kill infidels! I like the way it is okay for you to say you hate Islam but God help anyone who says they hate America on this forum (and I don't hate America btw...just the quality of the food there /joke)lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, just a tiny percentage of Americans are murdered in a year yet with your logic you should not be condoning the removal of all our guns, yet, you do....Consistency Braddock...Oh and as said before a phobia is a fear. I do not fear Islam, I just hate it.Braddock wrote:
That was a tiny minority of Muslims who protested the cartoons, just as many Muslims have marched and protested against extremism and yet this is conveniently ignored by both the mainstream media and Islamophobes across the world.
Ahem...when have I ever condemned the entire military for the actions of a few at Abu Graib? I have condemned the foreign policy, the war itself and the actions of all the bad apple soldiers but I've never tarred everyone with the same brush...I leave that to you and your cast iron assertions of what the Qu'ran supposedly says.lowing wrote:
You condemn the entire military for the actions of a few at Abu Graib. Tisk tisk Braddock, you shouldn't do that based on your defense of Islam, that peaceful and loving religion.
1. Ok so pretty much I hit the nail right on the head, you have NEVER lived outside mom and dads home, you have NEVER paid a bill, you do not raise a family, you are responsible for nothing outside your classroom or bedroom.TheAussieReaper wrote:
21. I currently work as an IT consultant. Final 6 months of my 4 year university degree in Information Technology. I help support my family, but do live at home with my parents. Saving up money to move out soon.lowing wrote:
How old are you, do you have a career? Are you paying a mortgage/bills? are you raising a family? Have you even left home yet?I agree that radical Islam is a problem. Yet you seem to equate Islam constantly with the radical minority who are extremists. They are called extremists for a reason. They are too extreme in their dedication to martyrdom and killings. This is not a typical Islamist.lowing wrote:
I do not think we have a Muslim problem. I think the world has a radical Islam problem, and it is time to stop ignoring it or shadowing it with political correctness.Who are the lazy, non-producers in your society Lowing? Is it the unemployed? Surely you don't think everyone who is unemployed is so due to laziness.lowing wrote:
You think I am intolerant. If you are referring to the lazy, non-producers under-achievers in society, you bet your ass I am as intolerant as I can get.I'm sure I can come up with something you've said that is racist. And to keep it within the context of this thread, I'll use a quote from this thread:lowing wrote:
You think I am a racist, I defy you to post anything I have said that was racist, Try to keep it in context with the thread if you can.Hate the radical extremists, not Islam. That's what I'd like to see from you. And I know it's very unlikely, but the world isn't simply black & white.lowing wrote:
Oh and as said before a phobia is a fear. I do not fear Islam, I just hate it.
Now, please answer my question. How would you solve the "radical" Islam problem?
And be sure to leave the innocent non-radical Islamist's alone as best you can. They deserve as much freedom as you do. I'm sure you consider freedom of the innocent a very dear right, as an American.
1. Not a weak comparision, you have deemed America dangerous due to guns in our country regardless of the small percentage of those that are killed by them. This same percentage refuses you to acknowledge Islam for what it is.Braddock wrote:
A weak comparison lowing, all guns are designed to kill and maim and hence I am happier living in a society where gun ownership is strictly controlled, all Muslims however are not 'designed' to kill infidels! I like the way it is okay for you to say you hate Islam but God help anyone who says they hate America on this forum (and I don't hate America btw...just the quality of the food there /joke)lowing wrote:
Hmmmmm, just a tiny percentage of Americans are murdered in a year yet with your logic you should not be condoning the removal of all our guns, yet, you do....Consistency Braddock...Oh and as said before a phobia is a fear. I do not fear Islam, I just hate it.Braddock wrote:
That was a tiny minority of Muslims who protested the cartoons, just as many Muslims have marched and protested against extremism and yet this is conveniently ignored by both the mainstream media and Islamophobes across the world.Ahem...when have I ever condemned the entire military for the actions of a few at Abu Graib? I have condemned the foreign policy, the war itself and the actions of all the bad apple soldiers but I've never tarred everyone with the same brush...I leave that to you and your cast iron assertions of what the Qu'ran supposedly says.lowing wrote:
You condemn the entire military for the actions of a few at Abu Graib. Tisk tisk Braddock, you shouldn't do that based on your defense of Islam, that peaceful and loving religion.
60 years ago? I did not live 60 years ago, how about making an argument for current events?TheAussieReaper wrote:
I think 60 years ago you would have been screaming about the reds under the beds, and believe that what you said isn't racist because Communism is not limited to just Soviets. Or do you still fear the red peril?
It's completely and utterly ludicrous beyond belief. Europe isn't quite as welcoming to illegals as the US is.blademaster wrote:
What do you guys think for those of you who live in Europe do you think Muslims will be the majority within 20 years?
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I wouldn't say so much muslims being the majority, but the way I see it, people not native to the actuall country are beocming a far larger majority. I see more Indian, Pakistani or Eastern European people around now than actual English people whenever I'm at the town.CameronPoe wrote:
It's completely and utterly ludicrous beyond belief.blademaster wrote:
What do you guys think for those of you who live in Europe do you think Muslims will be the majority within 20 years?
So U.S. troops were occupying your neighborhood then - looking for I.E.D.s and such?M.O.A.B wrote:
About 30 of them moved into the house just down the street, their neighbour says they're sleeping the loft and everything. One night the entire street was filled with cars and they all went into this one house, was like little Baghdad.
No but the gas man was digging up the road under the gas hydrant.topal63 wrote:
So U.S. troops were occupying your neighborhood then - looking for I.E.D.s and such?M.O.A.B wrote:
About 30 of them moved into the house just down the street, their neighbour says they're sleeping the loft and everything. One night the entire street was filled with cars and they all went into this one house, was like little Baghdad.
lol, have fun.M.O.A.B wrote:
About 30 of them moved into the house just down the street, their neighbour says they're sleeping the loft and everything. One night the entire street was filled with cars and they all went into this one house, was like little Baghdad.
Need the Nat service back tbh. Or let the police do stuff without fearing PC backlash for everything.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
lol, have fun.M.O.A.B wrote:
About 30 of them moved into the house just down the street, their neighbour says they're sleeping the loft and everything. One night the entire street was filled with cars and they all went into this one house, was like little Baghdad.
On a related note, I have some of the worst chavs in the country living near my house. Seriously annoying stuff. I'd rather have a terrorist training camp than these lot. Seriously.
This chav problem is much worse than this muslim one. Most of these terrorists and chavs are homegrown Britons. There's something seriously wrong with this country
That's probably because you guys raped the world for a few hundred years meaning you had to afford citizenship to a whole motley crew of blow-ins- Caribbeans, Indians, Irish, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Zimbabweans, Sudanese, Nigerians, Tanzanians, Malawians, etc. It's your own fault at the end of the day.M.O.A.B wrote:
I wouldn't say so much muslims being the majority, but the way I see it, people not native to the actuall country are beocming a far larger majority. I see more Indian, Pakistani or Eastern European people around now than actual English people whenever I'm at the town.CameronPoe wrote:
It's completely and utterly ludicrous beyond belief.blademaster wrote:
What do you guys think for those of you who live in Europe do you think Muslims will be the majority within 20 years?
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That was mostly happening to fill up spots like bus drivers and train drivers following WW2. Besides what about all the Poles, Romanians and such. I blame most of the current situation on the fact that the government is too afraid to turn anyone away for fear of offencding people. That and the fact every country under the sun is ending up in the EU and basically granting free passage here.CameronPoe wrote:
That's probably because you guys raped the world for a few hundred years meaning you had to afford citizenship to a whole motley crew of blow-ins- Caribbeans, Indians, Irish, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Zimbabweans, Sudanese, Nigerians, Tanzanians, Malawians, etc. It's your own fault at the end of the day.M.O.A.B wrote:
I wouldn't say so much muslims being the majority, but the way I see it, people not native to the actuall country are beocming a far larger majority. I see more Indian, Pakistani or Eastern European people around now than actual English people whenever I'm at the town.CameronPoe wrote:
It's completely and utterly ludicrous beyond belief.
Poles and Romanians are fully fledged members of the EU. Despite that Britain have actually chosen to not allow Romanian visa-free entry for another few years (as have Ireland admittedly). That's what the EU is about: freedom of movement, trade, ideas, etc. The Irish economy would have been stunted completely without the Poles - there weren't half enough Irish left to fill all the shitty jobs when we finally hit it rich.M.O.A.B wrote:
That was mostly happening to fill up spots like bus drivers and train drivers following WW2. Besides what about all the Poles, Romanians and such. I blame most of the current situation on the fact that the government is too afraid to turn anyone away for fear of offencding people. That and the fact every country under the sun is ending up in the EU and basically granting free passage here.
well thats the problem with EU if u want to be united, you get all kinds of people u want and dont want break the EU and things will be betterM.O.A.B wrote:
That was mostly happening to fill up spots like bus drivers and train drivers following WW2. Besides what about all the Poles, Romanians and such. I blame most of the current situation on the fact that the government is too afraid to turn anyone away for fear of offencding people. That and the fact every country under the sun is ending up in the EU and basically granting free passage here.CameronPoe wrote:
That's probably because you guys raped the world for a few hundred years meaning you had to afford citizenship to a whole motley crew of blow-ins- Caribbeans, Indians, Irish, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Zimbabweans, Sudanese, Nigerians, Tanzanians, Malawians, etc. It's your own fault at the end of the day.M.O.A.B wrote:
I wouldn't say so much muslims being the majority, but the way I see it, people not native to the actuall country are beocming a far larger majority. I see more Indian, Pakistani or Eastern European people around now than actual English people whenever I'm at the town.
In all honesty I'd far rather we weren't part of it, then it might motivate more of the benefit rapers to actually get the jobs that are available. The one part that really gets under my skin though is that a lot f these people come into the country, and don't actually get a job, but instead are offered a house, money and so on.blademaster wrote:
well thats the problem with EU if u want to be united, you get all kinds of people u want and dont want break the EU and things will be betterM.O.A.B wrote:
That was mostly happening to fill up spots like bus drivers and train drivers following WW2. Besides what about all the Poles, Romanians and such. I blame most of the current situation on the fact that the government is too afraid to turn anyone away for fear of offencding people. That and the fact every country under the sun is ending up in the EU and basically granting free passage here.CameronPoe wrote:
That's probably because you guys raped the world for a few hundred years meaning you had to afford citizenship to a whole motley crew of blow-ins- Caribbeans, Indians, Irish, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Zimbabweans, Sudanese, Nigerians, Tanzanians, Malawians, etc. It's your own fault at the end of the day.