BF2S Forums Chinese Muslim Group Vows Attacks at Olympic Games

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I actually had not said anything at all yet, which if you read my sarcastic smut is the closest I will ever be to being on topic. The reason I chimed in is because you, in your infinite wisdom, stated that I created an inaccurate thread title in reference to the link I provide which I am only imagining in my head when you typed it the look on your face resembled Dr. Evil when he asked for a million dollars.

All I was saying was that the title was a little misleading. It kind of made it sounds like there was some new fangled Chinese Al Qaeda group or something.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-27 15:05:51)

CameronPoe wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

About as pointless as starting a debate about, oh I don't know, anything and then refusing to entertain someone elses point of view because you think you are right no matter what?

You just said you didn't present a point of view? What was I supposed to entertain?

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@ Mods

Feel free to close this train wreck if you would like before it turns into a bitch fit. I will not be offended. Or, if it is entertainment you seek let the stones be thrown.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2008-07-27 15:16:57)

Fair enough.

probably not the best place to try and pull off a terrorist attack...
   The Chinese will be brutal to anyone they catch... they shot 5 terrorists a couple of weeks ago... god willing there won't be any attacks at the olympics...before or after...
http://shanghaiist.com/2008/07/10/jihad … orists.php

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2008-07-27 18:05:43)

if you thought America's response to terrorism was heavy handed...


they'd be fools to try

CameronPoe wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

@ Mods

Feel free to close this train wreck if you would like before it turns into a bitch fit. I will not be offended. Or, if it is entertainment you seek let the stones be thrown.

Apologies, leave it open and we;ll get it back on track.

PS It was originally lowing that commenced the descent to trainwreck.

Ummmmmmm Islamic Terrorism? Just in China now?

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Apologies, leave it open and we;ll get it back on track.

PS It was originally lowing that commenced the descent to trainwreck.

Ummmmmmm Islamic Terrorism? Just in China now?

In respect to the original sentiment of deeznutz post I would urge you to respond to his OP question rather than continuing a derail.

Derail? We are talking about Islamic terorrism are we not? Does the Chinese response to it not walk hand in hand with the futile attempt to stop it from happening?

How we combat Islamic terrorism is the same issue with the actual events of Islamic terrorism, Cam. It is not a derail

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Derail? We are talking about Islamic terorrism are we not? Does the Chinese response to it not walk hand in hand with the futile attempt to stop it from happening?

How we combat Islamic terrorism is the same issue with the actual events of Islamic terrorism, Cam. It is not a derail

Deeznutz reprimanded me for not addressing the OP's actual purpose - how hardass are Chinese authorities going to be on these guys? And for the record - this ain't 'Islamic terrorism' - it's a longstanding NATIONALIST movement that precedes the coming of that animal Chairman Mao.

Sorry Cam, terrorism against innocent people at the Olympics committed by Islamists, IS Islamic terrorism

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Cam, terrorism against innocent people at the Olympics committed by Islamists, IS Islamic terrorism

I didn't think you could get any more ignorant, but you just did. lol.

Were they doing it in the name of allah? No. Ergo: not Islamic extremist terror.

I see, so try explaining the reasons for the terror attacksto the victims of it. I am sure they will feel better. It is a good thing the Koran allows and encourages such acts or these Islamic terrorists might go to hll and not recieve their 70 virgins.

CameronPoe wrote:

The Q'uran actually strictly forbids the killing of civilians - a fact you conveniently pretend doesn't exist....

...unless the killing brings about the benefit to the Jihad. 

it's also against the Q'uran to lie, yet we see that many in the ME have elevated lying to an art form since it is 'legal' to do if it profits you and or the faith.

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The Q'uran actually strictly forbids the killing of civilians - a fact you conveniently pretend doesn't exist....

...unless the killing brings about the benefit to the Jihad. 

it's also against the Q'uran to lie, yet we see that many in the ME have elevated lying to an art form since it is 'legal' to do if it profits you and or the faith.

Jihad is generally interpreted as 'inner struggle' so I don't see how that tallies with 'external killing'. An extremist take I presume you are referring to.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.  (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).  (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds.  (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers.  (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God.  But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers.  (The Noble Quran 2:193)"

"Let there be no compulsion in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error:  whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks.  And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam.   Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them).  (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"

"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"

"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe!  (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"

"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you.   If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance.  The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).  (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

"Say : O ye that reject Faith!  I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship.  And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship.  To you be your Way, and to me mine.  (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)"

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-07-28 15:26:59)

CameronPoe wrote:

--- Q'uran quotes - blah blah blah ---

then explain why these same quotes have not prevented the Janjaweed from executing/raping/stealing those poor people in Darfur?  why is there no backlash in the ME saying this is not sanctioned by the sacred book?

also, later verses in the Q'uran overrule the earlier verses.  it's kind of like their amendment scheme.  it's just a shame that many of the 'tolerant' verses were written much earlier by this warlord prophet.