BF2S Forums Within 20 Years, Muslims Will Be Majority in Europe

blademaster wrote:

sorry internet rules pics of it didnt happen

IG-Calibre wrote:

lowing wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

I do indeed thanks, nearly 40, university educated to post graduate level, alumni of the university of Ulster & Queens University Belfast, own my home, several cars, and have a very fulfilled life and career. I have traveled a lot, seen plenty of the world & have spent time living and working in 3rd world countries, making positive contributions. So..... please.... spare me your condescending bullshit that you use to impress kids on Internet forums, war profiteer.

An exception to the rule. Actually I do not frequent internet forums, I got sucked into this one and that is it.

I would think with all of your education you would know that Islam is not a race. Or are you going to argue that it is one?  Anyway if not, then you still need to back up your statement that I am racist with proof.

I do agree with you however, I am in a war zone, which is where this project has taken me, and I am getting paid for doing it. So yeah I guess you could make an argument that I am profiting off of the war. But to be fair, this project would be happening, and I would be doing it, even if there wasn't a war. I am only here because this is where the helecopters are for now. I worked in Germany, Texas, Kentucky as well.

So to say I am a war profiteer in the context that you mean it, is not exactly true. Only in the context as I described it.

Either way a pretty lame attempt at a "put down" for a 40 year old educated person.

I wouldn't say it was a lame attempt at all Lowing. I enjoyed immensely you trying to justify yourself, you've changed your tune from mista " I lost my job cause of 9/11 in the airport so damn right i'm gonna go to Iraq and make a load of money" all those months ago, so yeah Lowing you're just a war profiteer no matter how you "try" to justify it, to me or yourself..

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

1. Not a weak comparision, you have deemed America dangerous due to guns in our country regardless of the small percentage of those that are killed by them. This same percentage refuses you to acknowledge Islam for what it is.

My assertion that guns are designed only to kill and maim holds true lowing and, as I have said, all Muslims are not predisposed towards violence so yes, it is a weak comparison. Also, I have not deemed America to be a dangerous place solely because of guns. The high numbers of gun ownership plays a large part but I would argue that it is the violent culture and wild west mentality among many gun owners that is the main contributing factor...look at Switzerland as a comparative example of a country that shows responsibility in its gun ownership.

lowing wrote:

I do not need the Koran, the research has already been done, no need to re do it. If you wanna ignore it I can not control that.

Lowing there is endless debate over the translation and interpretation of the Qu'ranic texts and yet you filter out all but the negative ones then go around preaching as though you're the only one clued in to the reality of this religion. It's funny how this extremist element of Islam has only intruded noticeably on Western life as American interference in Middle Eastern life has increased! Many scholars have continually argued that the extremist interpretations seen in the actions of the kind of people documented on those great websites you love to frequent have only become popular throughout history in times when Islam has been put under pressure from outside.

I can acknowledge that extremist interpretations of this ancient and complicated text exist yet you seem incapable of acknowledging that moderate and peaceful interpretations exist...so tell me who is the one ignoring things?

lowing wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

lowing wrote:

An exception to the rule. Actually I do not frequent internet forums, I got sucked into this one and that is it.

I would think with all of your education you would know that Islam is not a race. Or are you going to argue that it is one?  Anyway if not, then you still need to back up your statement that I am racist with proof.

I do agree with you however, I am in a war zone, which is where this project has taken me, and I am getting paid for doing it. So yeah I guess you could make an argument that I am profiting off of the war. But to be fair, this project would be happening, and I would be doing it, even if there wasn't a war. I am only here because this is where the helecopters are for now. I worked in Germany, Texas, Kentucky as well.

So to say I am a war profiteer in the context that you mean it, is not exactly true. Only in the context as I described it.

Either way a pretty lame attempt at a "put down" for a 40 year old educated person.

I wouldn't say it was a lame attempt at all Lowing. I enjoyed immensely you trying to justify yourself, you've changed your tune from mista " I lost my job cause of 9/11 in the airport so damn right i'm gonna go to Iraq and make a load of money" all those months ago, so yeah Lowing you're just a war profiteer no matter how you "try" to justify it, to me or yourself..

Hey dipshit, I am not trying to justify shit to you or anyone else, least of all here. I was simply trying to tell you the circumstances of my presence in Iraq, if you do not wanna listen to it, I can promise you I don't give a fuck. So your false sense of smugness is pretty much that, false.

You are using quotes as if you are quoting someone and I assume that is me. So if you will kindly show me where you are quoting me with your sentence I would greatly appreciate it.

So tell me professor, when exactly did Islam become a race? Still waiting for that one.

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2008-07-28 15:37:28)

m3thod wrote:

lowing wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

I wouldn't say it was a lame attempt at all Lowing. I enjoyed immensely you trying to justify yourself, you've changed your tune from mista " I lost my job cause of 9/11 in the airport so damn right i'm gonna go to Iraq and make a load of money" all those months ago, so yeah Lowing you're just a war profiteer no matter how you "try" to justify it, to me or yourself..

Hey dipshit, I am not trying to justify shit to you or anyone else, least of all here. I was simply trying to tell you the circumstances of my presence in Iraq, if you do not wanna listen to it, I can promise you I don't give a fuck. So your false sense of smugness is pretty much that, false.

You are using quotes as if you are quoting someone and I assume that is me. So if you will kindly show me where you are quoting me with your sentence I would greatly appreciate it.

So tell me professor, when exactly did Islam become a race? Still waiting for that one.

bubbs was banned for calling someone a dipshit once.  Some how you always seem to get away with it :./

have you recieved a awm yet?!

Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Even if the offensive cartoons successfully riled the Muslims in Europe and aided racists against Muslims, the point was made clear: many Muslims do not understand or respect the freedom of speech.  Anyone who threatens to maim or kill others over being offended by a cartoon is not compatible with Western society and should be deported or imprisoned.

That was a tiny minority of Muslims who protested the cartoons, just as many Muslims have marched and protested against extremism and yet this is conveniently ignored by both the mainstream media and Islamophobes across the world.

usmarine wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Agreed.  The vast majority of Muslims are fine, but that minority of them that is extremist should be imprisoned or deported.

how would you find them?

Turquoise wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Even if the offensive cartoons successfully riled the Muslims in Europe and aided racists against Muslims, the point was made clear: many Muslims do not understand or respect the freedom of speech.  Anyone who threatens to maim or kill others over being offended by a cartoon is not compatible with Western society and should be deported or imprisoned.

That was a tiny minority of Muslims who protested the cartoons, just as many Muslims have marched and protested against extremism and yet this is conveniently ignored by both the mainstream media and Islamophobes across the world.

Agreed.  The vast majority of Muslims are fine, but that minority of them that is extremist should be imprisoned or deported.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The ones who show up at protests chanting things like "Death to the West" or "Death to all those who insult Islam" could be apprehended at the protest itself.

well then that would cause a little shit storm wouldnt it?

not that I dont agree

I'm not sure exactly how that would go down in America. I know that there would certainly be support for the cause, but the freedom of speech issue would very quickly raise it's head.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

If it was Christians chanting abortion is murder and labeling abortion supports as criminals, etc even though I disagree with that they say I would uphold their right to say it.

But just turning up in support of a protest doesn't automatically make you hold the exact ideals that those around you may. Especially if you were a child made to hold a banner by a parent.

But choosing what is covered by freedom is speech is still difficult.

Like being charged with support for terrorism, compared to material support for terrorism, which could be much worse. You can't define how supportive someone is of terrorism, but you can once they provide material support, funds, etc.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

RE OP: Reads to me like propaganda.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-07-28 20:30:43)