Poll

is Bush is a Master of Psy-ops !

He must be, Its all too perfect !47%47% - 8
He Can't be, Its all just luck !52%52% - 9
Total: 17
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7223
The Terrorists must be Pissed off that  Americans don't believe They Hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 911
   
Can you imagine their Anger that we are claiming They weren't responsible for their greatest Triumph?

Bush is a Master of Psy-ops ! 

By creating this whole " Conspiracy Theory " with His Dad's C.I.A.  He is really fucking with their heads.

Now the Terrorist are Fighting and killing each other in Iraq. The guy is a Genius !

They must be impatient with Rage !
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Section.80
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HA! George W. Bush! A genuis! Now that's a good one!
dankassasin42o
Member
+68|7065|Reefersyde, CA
bush is too fucking retarded.  some other genuis came up with it.  an passed the idea to that moron
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|7121|California

dankassasin42o wrote:

bush is too fucking retarded.  some other genuis came up with it.  an passed the idea to that moron
Hmmmm.... we're a bunch of tards posting on an internet forum. He's a tard who became the most powerful man on the planet.

Who's the bigger tard?
section9
Member
+9|7233|USA
He is you nozzle we're not destoying the world and the constitution
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|7121|California
Lol, you called me a nozzle. We're the biggest tards for letting him do it. If you believe He is, then change it.
jimbidf
Member
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Damn guys.I fear it turns out you really ARE tards.
How did it happen that you elected the idiot a second time?
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
+235|7065

jimbidf wrote:

Damn guys.I fear it turns out you really ARE tards.
How did it happen that you elected the idiot a second time?
Well if you think about it we were still in the Afghan war . We wanted to give the president to see it through . Who the hell would want to change presidents in the middle of a war ? It's not rule or law but most people don't feel comfortable changing predients in the middle of a war simple as that .
Love him or hate you have to addmit when President Bush says he's going to do something he ain't bullshitting . Saddam made that grave mistake . You think we are going to spend a billion dollars just to get our troops across the ocean as a bluff ? Wrong . With that in mind we had our troops on the boarder beating our drums for 6 months before we attacked . The UN is completely worthless and , sorry if we got a lil paroniod after 9/11 , decided it would be best to attack . I would say that a majority of Americans didn't really
see Saddam as a threat . I know I didn't . But after hearing all the stories about what he does to his people aand after attacking Quwait , raping and piliaging and all , I think we really didn't give a fuck afterall . Oh well , onne less Dictatorshit around - whos crying ? Besides Eurowussies ?
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7061|Canberra, AUS

Erkut.hv wrote:

dankassasin42o wrote:

bush is too fucking retarded.  some other genuis came up with it.  an passed the idea to that moron
Hmmmm.... we're a bunch of tards posting on an internet forum. He's a tard who became the most powerful man on the planet.

Who's the bigger tard?
Yeah, but he's a tard with the best connections in the world.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2ndLt.Tucker
If you can read this, your already dead
+33|7068|Stillwater, Ok

section9 wrote:

He is you nozzle we're not destoying the world and the constitution
And how long have the liberals been trying to get rid of private guns? Isn't that against the constitution as well, oh damn thats right 2nd one in our Bill of Rights. Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to.  But truthfully I hate politics its all bullshit. No matter what side your on your never going to be 100% happy with what happens.  But I do have to say I'm glad the democrats didn't get in office this last round for a few reasons.

1) Their economic plan for that time period while sounded good was bullshit. If it had of been enforced we would have gone further into a recession.  To whoever said bush brought it down is a dumbass. Increasing federal spending boosts an economy. On a side note the economic growth we experienced in the Clinton Admin was not all positive. We have an inflation rate of 6% a year and grew at 8% a year. The best type of growth is around 2% becuase it limits inflation. Another point is an economy can not ALWAYS grow and at a point will NATURALLY recess itself. This just happened to be in the Bush Admin.

2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.

3)Him as a commander in chief would have been horrid. He cared too much about what other people thought and is what made him flip flop so much in is campaign.  He may have gone to war after 9/11 becuase of the public but once it became unpopular he would have pulled out.

4)And as stated above he wanted to get rid of personal firearms....minus hunting gear if im correct. Doesn't make sense that you can have deer rifles with accuracy for snipers but having a handgun accurate up to if your lucky 50 yrds is not ok.  A rifle will fuck you up 3x more than any handgun can.  I know it was to help prevent criminals from getting guns but i mean come on there criminals. They will get them one way or another.

5) Changing presidents in the middle of a conflict is not good at all becuase command changes and leaves operations as well as objectives vulnerable.  You want to finish a war under the same command through the whole thing or atleast have a succesion where they are on the same page not two completely different ones.

That being said...GOD help us if Clinton's bitch of a wife Hillary gets into office.  She will cause the end of the world, that women is plain evil. No wonder Bill cheated on her.

Last edited by 2ndLt.Tucker (2006-03-01 02:06:00)

dirtyepics
Member
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dankassasin42o wrote:

bush is too fucking retarded.  some other genuis came up with it.  an passed the idea to that moron
Yeah its amazing how brilliant you have to be to run a country with someone's hand up your ass operating you!
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7223
2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.


Start a Gay religion and do what you want.

Why would you so desperatly want to join a club were the people dont like you ?
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
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jimbidf wrote:

Damn guys.I fear it turns out you really ARE tards.
How did it happen that you elected the idiot a second time?
POTUS #43 was and is the best candidate for the job over here in the US.  I voted for him both times, and I still support him.  I'm not  buying into the fact that the terrorists think we aren't giving them the credit for Osama Bin Laden's plan.  That is a bunch of BS.  He did plan it for years and he pulled it off. 

Flame on , I know you will
=DBD=TITAN126
Member
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2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

section9 wrote:

He is you nozzle we're not destoying the world and the constitution
And how long have the liberals been trying to get rid of private guns? Isn't that against the constitution as well, oh damn thats right 2nd one in our Bill of Rights. Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to.  But truthfully I hate politics its all bullshit. No matter what side your on your never going to be 100% happy with what happens.  But I do have to say I'm glad the democrats didn't get in office this last round for a few reasons.

1) Their economic plan for that time period while sounded good was bullshit. If it had of been enforced we would have gone further into a recession.  To whoever said bush brought it down is a dumbass. Increasing federal spending boosts an economy. On a side note the economic growth we experienced in the Clinton Admin was not all positive. We have an inflation rate of 6% a year and grew at 8% a year. The best type of growth is around 2% becuase it limits inflation. Another point is an economy can not ALWAYS grow and at a point will NATURALLY recess itself. This just happened to be in the Bush Admin.

2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.

3)Him as a commander in chief would have been horrid. He cared too much about what other people thought and is what made him flip flop so much in is campaign.  He may have gone to war after 9/11 becuase of the public but once it became unpopular he would have pulled out.

4)And as stated above he wanted to get rid of personal firearms....minus hunting gear if im correct. Doesn't make sense that you can have deer rifles with accuracy for snipers but having a handgun accurate up to if your lucky 50 yrds is not ok.  A rifle will fuck you up 3x more than any handgun can.  I know it was to help prevent criminals from getting guns but i mean come on there criminals. They will get them one way or another.

5) Changing presidents in the middle of a conflict is not good at all becuase command changes and leaves operations as well as objectives vulnerable.  You want to finish a war under the same command through the whole thing or atleast have a succesion where they are on the same page not two completely different ones.

That being said...GOD help us if Clinton's bitch of a wife Hillary gets into office.  She will cause the end of the world, that women is plain evil. No wonder Bill cheated on her.
Agree 100% with everything you jsut said. What liberals don;t understand about gun rights is that the criminals are going to have the guns even if they are illegal. So, by taking away gun rights, they're basically taking away my right to defend myself.

Also...Hilary Clinton is a just not the right woman to be president. Period.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7223
I meant this as a joke as the whole conspiracy thing is just that,  A joke
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7061|Canberra, AUS

=DBD=TITAN126 wrote:

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

section9 wrote:

He is you nozzle we're not destoying the world and the constitution
And how long have the liberals been trying to get rid of private guns? Isn't that against the constitution as well, oh damn thats right 2nd one in our Bill of Rights. Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to.  But truthfully I hate politics its all bullshit. No matter what side your on your never going to be 100% happy with what happens.  But I do have to say I'm glad the democrats didn't get in office this last round for a few reasons.

1) Their economic plan for that time period while sounded good was bullshit. If it had of been enforced we would have gone further into a recession.  To whoever said bush brought it down is a dumbass. Increasing federal spending boosts an economy. On a side note the economic growth we experienced in the Clinton Admin was not all positive. We have an inflation rate of 6% a year and grew at 8% a year. The best type of growth is around 2% becuase it limits inflation. Another point is an economy can not ALWAYS grow and at a point will NATURALLY recess itself. This just happened to be in the Bush Admin.

2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.

3)Him as a commander in chief would have been horrid. He cared too much about what other people thought and is what made him flip flop so much in is campaign.  He may have gone to war after 9/11 becuase of the public but once it became unpopular he would have pulled out.

4)And as stated above he wanted to get rid of personal firearms....minus hunting gear if im correct. Doesn't make sense that you can have deer rifles with accuracy for snipers but having a handgun accurate up to if your lucky 50 yrds is not ok.  A rifle will fuck you up 3x more than any handgun can.  I know it was to help prevent criminals from getting guns but i mean come on there criminals. They will get them one way or another.

5) Changing presidents in the middle of a conflict is not good at all becuase command changes and leaves operations as well as objectives vulnerable.  You want to finish a war under the same command through the whole thing or atleast have a succesion where they are on the same page not two completely different ones.

That being said...GOD help us if Clinton's bitch of a wife Hillary gets into office.  She will cause the end of the world, that women is plain evil. No wonder Bill cheated on her.
Agree 100% with everything you jsut said. What liberals don;t understand about gun rights is that the criminals are going to have the guns even if they are illegal. So, by taking away gun rights, they're basically taking away my right to defend myself.

Also...Hilary Clinton is a just not the right woman to be president. Period.
We in Australia have banned guns.

Now we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Defend yourself with something else:

1. Learn a martial art. It looks cool

2. Buy a cricket bat. Preferably one of the ones with 4-inch thick edges (or just a big piece of wood will do)

3. Learn to pitch. With a cricket ball (or a 150g, rock hard leather ball will do)

4. Buy a guard dog.

5. Get a security system.

6. Learn to throw knives, and keep a few sharp ones near your bed.

EDIT: Cos a robbers really going to break into your house with a big, heavy, unweildy hunting rifle. It doesn't really matter what the range is inside a house.

Last edited by Spark (2006-03-04 23:10:07)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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It's funny how people use other banned-gun countries with low crime rates (hmm...did we forget to mention 'police state?') as an example that "could be applied to America." News flash: the US isn't "other countries." It'd never work here. Even if you tried, you'd just generate a new class of angry rednecks who'd shoot cops that come to take away their rifles. And you'd give the gun smuggling ring a whole new opportunity for business. They'd be coming up from Mexico like liquor down from Canada.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7061|Canberra, AUS
Whatever. It works here. We're no police state, we run a similar ideology to America.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Cybargs
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+2,285|7102
i thought hunting rifles was legal in the bush...
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Urlor J'kron
Medic Whore
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Spark wrote:

=DBD=TITAN126 wrote:

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:


And how long have the liberals been trying to get rid of private guns? Isn't that against the constitution as well, oh damn thats right 2nd one in our Bill of Rights. Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to.  But truthfully I hate politics its all bullshit. No matter what side your on your never going to be 100% happy with what happens.  But I do have to say I'm glad the democrats didn't get in office this last round for a few reasons.

1) Their economic plan for that time period while sounded good was bullshit. If it had of been enforced we would have gone further into a recession.  To whoever said bush brought it down is a dumbass. Increasing federal spending boosts an economy. On a side note the economic growth we experienced in the Clinton Admin was not all positive. We have an inflation rate of 6% a year and grew at 8% a year. The best type of growth is around 2% becuase it limits inflation. Another point is an economy can not ALWAYS grow and at a point will NATURALLY recess itself. This just happened to be in the Bush Admin.

2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.

3)Him as a commander in chief would have been horrid. He cared too much about what other people thought and is what made him flip flop so much in is campaign.  He may have gone to war after 9/11 becuase of the public but once it became unpopular he would have pulled out.

4)And as stated above he wanted to get rid of personal firearms....minus hunting gear if im correct. Doesn't make sense that you can have deer rifles with accuracy for snipers but having a handgun accurate up to if your lucky 50 yrds is not ok.  A rifle will fuck you up 3x more than any handgun can.  I know it was to help prevent criminals from getting guns but i mean come on there criminals. They will get them one way or another.

5) Changing presidents in the middle of a conflict is not good at all becuase command changes and leaves operations as well as objectives vulnerable.  You want to finish a war under the same command through the whole thing or atleast have a succesion where they are on the same page not two completely different ones.

That being said...GOD help us if Clinton's bitch of a wife Hillary gets into office.  She will cause the end of the world, that women is plain evil. No wonder Bill cheated on her.
Agree 100% with everything you jsut said. What liberals don;t understand about gun rights is that the criminals are going to have the guns even if they are illegal. So, by taking away gun rights, they're basically taking away my right to defend myself.

Also...Hilary Clinton is a just not the right woman to be president. Period.
We in Australia have banned guns.

Now we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Defend yourself with something else:

1. Learn a martial art. It looks cool

2. Buy a cricket bat. Preferably one of the ones with 4-inch thick edges (or just a big piece of wood will do)

3. Learn to pitch. With a cricket ball (or a 150g, rock hard leather ball will do)

4. Buy a guard dog.

5. Get a security system.

6. Learn to throw knives, and keep a few sharp ones near your bed.

EDIT: Cos a robbers really going to break into your house with a big, heavy, unweildy hunting rifle. It doesn't really matter what the range is inside a house.
Yes because throwing knifes are so much more efficient than a 1911. Seriously you got one shot with a throwing knife. If you miss him you're full of lead.

Firearms are illegal in Washington D.C. and they have the highest murder rate in the country. That's how well banning weapons work in the States.
mpsmith
Member
+5|7058

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

section9 wrote:

He is you nozzle we're not destoying the world and the constitution
And how long have the liberals been trying to get rid of private guns? Isn't that against the constitution as well, oh damn thats right 2nd one in our Bill of Rights. Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to.  But truthfully I hate politics its all bullshit. No matter what side your on your never going to be 100% happy with what happens.  But I do have to say I'm glad the democrats didn't get in office this last round for a few reasons.

1) Their economic plan for that time period while sounded good was bullshit. If it had of been enforced we would have gone further into a recession.  To whoever said bush brought it down is a dumbass. Increasing federal spending boosts an economy. On a side note the economic growth we experienced in the Clinton Admin was not all positive. We have an inflation rate of 6% a year and grew at 8% a year. The best type of growth is around 2% becuase it limits inflation. Another point is an economy can not ALWAYS grow and at a point will NATURALLY recess itself. This just happened to be in the Bush Admin.

2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.

3)Him as a commander in chief would have been horrid. He cared too much about what other people thought and is what made him flip flop so much in is campaign.  He may have gone to war after 9/11 becuase of the public but once it became unpopular he would have pulled out.

4)And as stated above he wanted to get rid of personal firearms....minus hunting gear if im correct. Doesn't make sense that you can have deer rifles with accuracy for snipers but having a handgun accurate up to if your lucky 50 yrds is not ok.  A rifle will fuck you up 3x more than any handgun can.  I know it was to help prevent criminals from getting guns but i mean come on there criminals. They will get them one way or another.

5) Changing presidents in the middle of a conflict is not good at all becuase command changes and leaves operations as well as objectives vulnerable.  You want to finish a war under the same command through the whole thing or atleast have a succesion where they are on the same page not two completely different ones.

That being said...GOD help us if Clinton's bitch of a wife Hillary gets into office.  She will cause the end of the world, that women is plain evil. No wonder Bill cheated on her.
I agree with you about the second amendment and Hillary Clinton (adding that I don't think the US is ready for a female president whoever it may be). However, the rest of that stuff is just ridiculous. You've demonstrated that either you know nothing about economics or you simply choose to ignore several problems with Bush's economic policies (such as record deficit spending).

Further, the war that resulted from 9/11 has never been unpopular. People still support it. The war that isn't popular is one that had nothing to do with 9/11 (that would be Iraq for those who don't know).

I'm not sure where that stuff about gay marriage came from, but I believe if you read carefully you'll see that the Leviticus passage refers to men having sex with men in the context of worshipping another god.

Changing CinCs during a conflict is generally not problematic. The only way it could is if a complete 180 degree turn was made with regards to whatever conflict, which would certainly not happen- both parties are too similar and number-conscious to let that happen (even if they wanted to). I'm pretty sure we'd still be in Iraq if Kerry had been elected- and things would probably be generally the same there. Changing leadership in-country, though would have negative effects (this proves problematic in protracted conflicts where it's impossible to keep the same military leadership for multiple years, and the effects have been visible both in Afghanistan and Iraq).

On-topic: I doubt that any terrorists are upset that an incredibly small percent of Americans think it was fake. I doubt, first, that any of them are aware of this, and further, the point of terrorism is to affect the country's policies and morale (and this was immediately accomplished with 9/11).

Last edited by mpsmith (2006-03-05 02:55:10)

NemeSiS-Factor
Favorite Weapon? Pistol
+29|7056|Everett, WA, US

jimbidf wrote:

Damn guys.I fear it turns out you really ARE tards.
How did it happen that you elected the idiot a second time?
It was between him and Kerry.  I think Kerry would have pulled us out of Iraq, and that would have been bad.  We need our oil and it's stuck in a some holy sand pit.  Bush is dumb.  For a president.  There are dumber people though, like us.

[edit]Eurowussies, lol.  That needs to be logged in my memory.[/edit]

We tried banning alcohol in the United States, and the mob formed.  Banning guns will just create an ever so slightly more dangerous mob.  Besides, Australians are docile.  They put something in your water.

I have also been reading alot about Hillary running for president on this particular thread.  Alot of you are saying the US isnt ready for a female president.  Well that is bullshit.  We're ready for a female president.  HOWEVER, the female population in general is not ready for leadership in any way shape or form.  I don't even think they can be squad leaders.

[editx2]on second thought, no we're not ready for a female prez anyway, I just wanted to build up to that joke.  BTW funny = true[/editx2]

Last edited by NemeSiS-Factor (2006-03-05 03:18:28)

nix0n
Banned
+5|7028
"Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to."


the constitution doesnt say you have the right to bear arms you fucktard, inless your defending your country
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7102

nix0n wrote:

"Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to."


the constitution doesnt say you have the right to bear arms you fucktard, inless your defending your country
yes it does, READ the whole constitution, and the bill of rights
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dubbs
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Spark wrote:

=DBD=TITAN126 wrote:

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

And how long have the liberals been trying to get rid of private guns? Isn't that against the constitution as well, oh damn thats right 2nd one in our Bill of Rights. Right to bear arms....and damnit ill bear my arms if I want to.  But truthfully I hate politics its all bullshit. No matter what side your on your never going to be 100% happy with what happens.  But I do have to say I'm glad the democrats didn't get in office this last round for a few reasons.

1) Their economic plan for that time period while sounded good was bullshit. If it had of been enforced we would have gone further into a recession.  To whoever said bush brought it down is a dumbass. Increasing federal spending boosts an economy. On a side note the economic growth we experienced in the Clinton Admin was not all positive. We have an inflation rate of 6% a year and grew at 8% a year. The best type of growth is around 2% becuase it limits inflation. Another point is an economy can not ALWAYS grow and at a point will NATURALLY recess itself. This just happened to be in the Bush Admin.

2) I'm sorry but saying gays can be married inside a church against a pastor, preachers will is just WRONG. Nothing against their rights as being recognized legally as a couple but I mean it make an even worse mochary of the church. As if the Roman Catholics hadn't already done that.  Leviticus plainly state sleeping with another man is detestable. They can still get legally recognized as married and have a ceremony just dont force it to be in a building that frowns upon such behavior. Give them the same right as other married couples as well.

3)Him as a commander in chief would have been horrid. He cared too much about what other people thought and is what made him flip flop so much in is campaign.  He may have gone to war after 9/11 becuase of the public but once it became unpopular he would have pulled out.

4)And as stated above he wanted to get rid of personal firearms....minus hunting gear if im correct. Doesn't make sense that you can have deer rifles with accuracy for snipers but having a handgun accurate up to if your lucky 50 yrds is not ok.  A rifle will fuck you up 3x more than any handgun can.  I know it was to help prevent criminals from getting guns but i mean come on there criminals. They will get them one way or another.

5) Changing presidents in the middle of a conflict is not good at all becuase command changes and leaves operations as well as objectives vulnerable.  You want to finish a war under the same command through the whole thing or atleast have a succesion where they are on the same page not two completely different ones.

That being said...GOD help us if Clinton's bitch of a wife Hillary gets into office.  She will cause the end of the world, that women is plain evil. No wonder Bill cheated on her.
Agree 100% with everything you jsut said. What liberals don;t understand about gun rights is that the criminals are going to have the guns even if they are illegal. So, by taking away gun rights, they're basically taking away my right to defend myself.

Also...Hilary Clinton is a just not the right woman to be president. Period.
We in Australia have banned guns.

Now we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Defend yourself with something else:

1. Learn a martial art. It looks cool

2. Buy a cricket bat. Preferably one of the ones with 4-inch thick edges (or just a big piece of wood will do)

3. Learn to pitch. With a cricket ball (or a 150g, rock hard leather ball will do)

4. Buy a guard dog.

5. Get a security system.

6. Learn to throw knives, and keep a few sharp ones near your bed.

EDIT: Cos a robbers really going to break into your house with a big, heavy, unweildy hunting rifle. It doesn't really matter what the range is inside a house.
He said buy a cricket bat.  Where can I buy one of those in the US?  My local sports store will surely have a cricket bat, since most Americans don't play cricket.  Same goes with a cricket ball.  When was the last time you saw an American play cricket in the US.  Matter of fact when was the first time you saw it?

Learn martial arts???  Remeber you are talking about one of the laziest countries in the world according to the press here in the US.  According to some city laws, if you get a black belt, your body can be considered as a deadly weapon. 

People do have guard dogs, and security systems.  BTW, some breeds of guard dogs are being outlawed in parts of the US, like bulldogs.  I am for sure that my guard dog will be able to take a bullet for me just and save the day, like Superman.

what difference does it make if some is killed with a knife or a gun.  If we start using knives, they will be outlawed.  (There are already laws that outlaw knives depending on their size.)

Side Note: When can the edge of something be thick?

Last edited by dubbs (2006-03-10 22:28:39)

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