BF2S Forums California judge rules early cell phone termination fees illegal

usmarine wrote:

but...they signed a contract.

pffftttt now-a-days that doesen't mean much

usmarine wrote:

but...they signed a contract.

Kyle had to lick Cartman's balls because he signed a contract.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

usmarine wrote:

but...they signed a contract.

Kyle had to lick Cartman's balls because he signed a contract.

leprechauns don't exist...

usmarine wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

usmarine wrote:

but...they signed a contract.

pffftttt now-a-days that doesen't mean much

ya, thats true to a point i guess.

I'm in a middle of some dispute with my contractor ..... we both signed a contract on a set price but now he wants more

jsnipy wrote:

good, hopefully it will spread and motivate companies to focus on service.

or force people to actually read contracts.  not just sign because they got the latest phone to show their myspace friends.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ya, thats true to a point i guess.

I'm in a middle of some dispute with my contractor ..... we both signed a contract on a set price but now he wants more

so why can't you say fuck off?

I'm on a time crunch _{kid on the way} and getting another contractor and workers would eat up some valuable time

SEREMAKER wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

I'm in a middle of some dispute with my contractor ..... we both signed a contract on a set price but now he wants more

so why can't you say fuck off?

I'm on a time crunch _{kid on the way} and getting another contractor and workers would eat up some valuable time

Aw congrats on your son, whats his name going to be?

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

so why can't you say fuck off?

I'm on a time crunch _{kid on the way} and getting another contractor and workers would eat up some valuable time

Well see that's the problem, you each want something outside the contract. He wants more cash, you want expedited delivery. The intangibles are at work here, whereas in the OP 75% of people are apparently deadbeats.

not really a expedited delivery bc we have a rough estimate of time on a turn-key job but now we've been back and fourth for almost a month, so now I'm a month behind

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Well see that's the problem, you each want something outside the contract. He wants more cash, you want expedited delivery. The intangibles are at work here, whereas in the OP 75% of people are apparently deadbeats.

not really a expedited delivery bc we have a rough estimate of time on a turn-key job but now we've been back and fourth for almost a month, so now I'm a month behind

but I assume the timetable is not in the contract. You're asking for a delivery time not in the contract, he's asking for compensation not in the contract.

Not to say he isn't being an asshole, only that in the strictly legal sense it makes sense. This ruling on the other hand doesn't make any sense.

a exact timetable can't be in a contract but for everything you do in the world you always get a timetable : delivery 2-3 weeks, 30 mins or less etc etc
a contractor can't stay in business if he tells you 3 months and now its in 41/2 months

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

but I assume the timetable is not in the contract. You're asking for a delivery time not in the contract, he's asking for compensation not in the contract.

Not to say he isn't being an asshole, only that in the strictly legal sense it makes sense. This ruling on the other hand doesn't make any sense.

a exact timetable can't be in a contract but for everything you do in the world you always get a timetable : delivery 2-3 weeks, 30 mins or less etc etc
a contractor can't stay in business if he tells you 3 months and now its in 41/2 months

sure it can, timetables go in contracts all the time. Maybe you could have put 4 months in the contract, with the understanding from him that it should be 3 months.

In any case I'm not saying you did anything wrong, just how this circumstance is different.

and clearly he can stay in business

he can try to stay in business but bad word travels faster then good word ....... we sign a contractor for x amount and have his word on 3 months at the end of the 3 months he is re-neging the contract and sets everything back by a month


and exact timetables are almost impossible to put in contracts .... ie : lumber yard runs low or out, you hit a naturely spring and flood the site, the rain etc etc

"has ruled that the practice of charging consumers a fee for ending their cell phone contract early is illegal and violates state law."

So, if you sign a contract to follow every order and to give up all personal possessions and freedom, you are bound by this contract even though slavery is illegal?

Pity they do not elaborate the reasons for the verdict, that is what always is missing in news articles, I hate it...

Mavik wrote:

"has ruled that the practice of charging consumers a fee for ending their cell phone contract early is illegal and violates state law."

So, if you sign a contract to follow every order and to give up all personal possessions and freedom, you are bound by this contract even though slavery is illegal?

Pity they do not elaborate the reasons for the verdict, that is what always is missing in news articles, I hate it...

it doesn't violate state law in any way, if you provide someone a service, and they pay you for it, you can charge them in any way you want, and if it is in a signed contract they have to follow it