WormGuts
Member
+17|7241|Dayton, Ohio
boo freakin whoo it's a damn gold medal get over it.
gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|7169|England
The commander should still receive a gold medal because he is the person that most likely helped his team win if you did not get a uav, supplies or arty from the commander you do not usually get that far if the other teams commander is using his uav etc. I command a lot now just recently to up my score totally commanding is easy to do and i will only play commander if my team is not working like a team should. Or if all my assets are blown to smithereens theres nothing else i can do im not gonna scan the whole map on the x3 zoom! And as for playing as commander i think EA dont care about that if they did you would not be in the game while commanding you would only get a commanders screen and not much else you can do like move or etc. Dont start moaning at peoples tactics while being commander!!!
Chowley
Member
+1|7133|Ireland
If you play better than just above average then this wont happen, simple really. 2x should be counted in medal decision or a commander would never get it, so that wouldnt be fair at all now would it?
Friluftshund
I cnat slpel!!!
+54|7160|Norway

aib73412 wrote:

I know some of you will say commander should go crawl in a whole and look at that map, but i say differently because part of being a commander in real world time not gaming time is that you LEAD YOUR people into battle and you fight right along the side of them and then you come off the battle field with a win. I know it works if you find it does not work then i guess you need to figure out what works for you. I know what works for me besides that its just a game go have fun.
What??!!!

A commander doesn't spend all the years in training to become a commander so that he can run around the battlefield with a bunch of troops... He stays in a command-center, and leaves the job to those who spent all the years he was in commander-training out on the battlefield doing infantry-training...
A commander isn't a squad-leader, incase that wasn't immidiatly obvious..

Dropping UAV/Supply/Arty by use of the 'T'-button is well and good, but a commander who "crawls into a hole and looks at the map" will be able to see where the enemy are heading because og his scans and will be able to zoom in on them and spot like a mad man..

That's the big difference between those commanders who cares about their team, and those who doesn't.. It doesn't matter if UAv isn't available, because the commander might just zoom in on you and talk to you about what his God-eyes see...
(and yes, I used the forbidden word: talk... A commander who talks is worth more than one who doesn't)
Axeface
Member
+0|7077
No I dont agree. Commanders should be able to get golds all they wont. Plus, have you looked up the way commander points is calculated?
BEE_Grim_Reaper
Member
+15|7154|Germany
And by the way... you do know, that commanders do not get a frickin' single combat point or teamwork point? Nothing for killing someone and nothing for resupplies, heals, revives or repairs?
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7222|Noizyland

I have been commander many times and havn't got an award. I don't mind that. The other day I played Commander though and got a Gold medal, and I fucken deserved it too. Sure I pushed the top scoring reviving medic dude down to a silver medal, but I'm sure he can cope. Also, it's happened to me before and I must admit I've been kind of pissed off, but you have to deal with these things and realise that it's not the end of the world.
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xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|7176|Louisiana
I played on Wake once, in a long round with not too many people on the server, and I got 184 points. The commander had over 300 because of the 2x bonus. It was ridiculous.

I'm not even sure about how the commander's points are calculated though.
Metamort
Member
+19|7132

bEAv3D wrote:

Varegg wrote:

bEAv3D wrote:


No it doesn't, it goes towards your commander points, but not your global score.
But actually it does !
ok, this is how i see it....

add up your command, combat, and teamwork scores.  you would think that it would total your global score.  wrong, unless you've never won a round as commander.  i'll use mine for an example

1503(commander) + 7086(combat) + 3942(teamwork) = 12,531

my global score - 11,633

now, if you subtract roughly half of my commander score, assuming that i win everytime i play commander which isn't true, you would be a little closer to my global score.
I'm sorry, but I have to oppose that theory. You see, my friend Fergis has only played Cmndr once and has 34 cmnd points.

Global Score: 1,188

Teamwork (283) + Combat (1,086) + Cmndr (34) = 1403

http://bf2s.com/player/fergis/

So even if you take away ALL his commander points and >half his teamwork points, he still has less global score. For some reason there are discrepencies and 2x cmndr score DOES add to your score. I'm not sure why there are discrepencies, ask EA.
TigrisJK
Member
+3|7173
Nope. I disagree entirely. It's easy for me to kill a ton of people and get silver with a sniper kit or a vehicle... but it's tough to work with a team and actually get them to work together win. It takes a lot to be a good commander.

About commanding and fighting: Doable. In a vehicle... but I would only recommend it when the player counts are ridiculously small.

Sure, it annoys me when I've been sniping all round and doing amazingly well and the command gets Gold, rather than I, because of it, but its just a little bit of virtual metal. Who cares? Just have some fun. Besides which, they've probably done quite a bit.

Sometimes people who don't deserve it get it. Usually, they'll cause their teams to lose. Whatever.

I can live with it. If the rewards weren't high, everyone would just command and do nothing, pushing their rank up a bit every time. After all, mutiny votes never work. So just command, don't bother doing anything except drop Arty every once in a while, and go up a bit win or lose. Giving a commander no incentive to actually COMMAND and WIN is silly.
Rizen_Ji
Member
+41|7183|200m out and smiling at you.
did u guys know that u could drop arty, supply crates and UAV's by hitting the "T" and clicking? and then requests u can just hit page up and down.

lol i dont command but i know u can do that.
R0lyP0ly
Member
+161|7101|USA
i tihnk the 2x is necessary. Think about it.. the commander HAS to sit in one spot the entire game. He doesnt have the opportunity to rack up points by reviving, blowin strat objectives, etc. he can only watch it through a commander screen and wait for his arty/UAV/scan/supply to refuel. if his actions directly influence the outcome of the game (i.e. critical artillery strikes, resupplying squads in need, UAV right places at right times, etc) then the 2x is a nice gift. If, on the other hand, he sits back a watches the individuals win the games, then no, he deserves a - 1/2 on his score...
TigrisJK
Member
+3|7173
Yeah, but commanders get overview sattelite footage and can spot pretty much every enemy soldier on the field *without* UAV, so people have two different schools about it. Ugh. I should stop surfing the forums, I'm just procrastinating more.
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7153|Antarctica
Poor little noobs want some free gold medals? LoL
MooseRyder
Member
+37|7102|Montréal, Canada
is it me or theres more poeple only playing for there god damn VIRTUAL awards then just to play for fun? its getting ridiculous at a certain to see that u make a post about the commander getting the gold medal and not u. just learn how to command and start commanding yourself and stop being a little girl, EA wont change it and posting crap just show u need a life.
Linus
Member
+53|7100
I couldnt agree more.. 19 out of 20 commanders are either:

a> totally useless to everyone.

b> helpful to themselves only.

Prime example;  X3 Clan server..  Go there if you wanna see some retard clannies run the
server 'the way they want too'..  dont even try to command, you will get kicked... and watching
those retards help themselves disregarding the rest of the team is a joke..

EA's whole ranked server / ranking system / point system etc. is a disgrace to online gaming.

First of all, its a scam.. why do ranked servers cost most than unranked? I still havent gotten
an answer to this question after 6 months..  Secondly, it promotes egos, which ruin the whole
community (Im a Sgt. Major!!!... Blah  who the hell cares.. ) Endless threads with 'Hey look at me!
Look at my stats! Look at my cool looking signature!... hahahahahahah.. gimme a break..

The whole setup of running a server in BF2 is a joke, also.. case in point.. the voting system..
Got a problem with a tker ? problem maker ?  too bad, cant do anything about it.. even when the
guy has -99 points..

The commander mode should be a server option, just like a lot of other things... but since EA
demands that their precious ranking system stay in tact, they will institute rules that punish ALL
to thwart a tiny few...i.e. (10 babysitters needed to join before game starts..) what a crock.

EA sucks, and not only that, they suck bigtime.  They'll NEVER see another dime of my money.
killaer
Member
+41|7165

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Poor little noobs want some free gold medals? LoL
Shut the fuck up.

And to the virtual award thing:
I want them, because whenever I see someones hyperania sig they have hundreds of medals. I wanna get one and keep up with em. The thing is, its not about the awward, its about the feeling that you GOT something for workin your ass off there. I went to a gulf of oman server and went crazy. Took an APC and went on a madman killing spree. Worked like hell, and was going to get a gold medal. Boom, I get bumped down by some guy who sits on the carrier pushing the UAV and ARTILERY button.

It's not about the award in itself, but the feeling that you got something for working.

But hear me out here.

I don't care if an awesome commander on our team who communicates with us, supports us, keeps us alive and sends arty fire in critical places gets 2X score and beats me, I care when some fuck who lays arround and throws arty wherever and doesnt say a word to the team gets a gold medal...BS

Last edited by killaer (2006-03-03 21:17:11)

Bingo
was his name-o
+0|7151|SE Pennsylvania
What the hell does a medal matter?  You in it to play for fun?  Even if you want the points, you're playing for that, right?  A medal is pointless.  Suck it up, play, or apply for commander.
NB-CO-DELTA-COMMAND
Member
+6|7100
I watch my kids. (squads) . i keep an eye on em . spot like crazy. bieng a DAMN GOOD commander is tough. we keep your ass alive. we should get alot of points. we decide the battle (somtimes) but i try my best to feed thi kids. ( supplies) and beat the shit outa the bullies ( use the art). dont be pissed..... think about what we do....
jjrp02
Member
+18|7094|Baton Rouge, LA, USA
so...that guy sending UAV's in to help you get those kills, therefore making your score get higher....

and that guy who calls in supplies when you need repairs to your tank/apc or need ammo or health....

or that guy that calls down the arty to clean house so you can cap a flag....


doesn't deserve the 2x bonus simply because he isn't ground pounding along side you?????

I'd rather be second to a winning commander than have the best score in a losing effort
hutchy52
Member
+12|7201
The commander earns his score the same as you.  If your not good enough to be higher than him at the end of the round, including his x2, then you don't deserve the gold medal.
Eboreus
Member of Foamy's Card Cult
+46|7094
jesus stop bitching about those stupid metal-stars... commander is a part of the game, a commander has a place in this game and a commander contributes as much to the victory of a team as any other team-member hence he deserves them as well.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7094
Think this thread should be in complain. But yeah, I hate when stupid commander steals my hard earned gold. Hell, I have more silvers than golds because of that. And some of us care about medals so stfu. It's fine that you don't but don't call us dumb or whiners because we do.
pokerplaya
want to go heads up?
+11|7181|cairns australia
take a look at this screenie.our team sucked badly but so did the sas.our commander never left the uncap.yet he gets 2 points less than me.wtf i did all the work,its easy to drop supplies etc.i have no problem when they earn their points and 2x its just a bad commander with a good team can get gold thats wrong.
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HisInfernalDeath
Member
+23|7171|Belgium
I played commander last night, and i won the gold medal.
But I fucking had to fight for it 2.. it was on Gulf of Oman.

The teams were even strenght all round long..they were capping flags, my team was capping flags..it was hard till the bitter end. It ended like 10/0.

I had to time everything, supply drops, arty, rpv.. It was crucial in winning the match.. so i really think that gold medal was a worthy gold medal..

I do understand that if you are kicking ass all round long, getting the highest scores as infantry..and after that some noob ass commander gets the gold while he had less points then you.. Its frustrating.. i've been there, but i deal with it.. who gives a fuck.. next round i'll try to kick ass again.. for the love of the game..!

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