upgrading processor - need halp

2008-08-08 17:43:50

#1

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

ok so im kind of shit when it comes to this sort of stuff

i currently have a Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), and was going to replace it with a E7200

seen as i dont have a fuckin clue so dont laugh at me, how do i no my pc will support it?

and when it comes to actually replacing it do i just rip my old one out and slap my new one in like i would with a gfx card? i can do that

thanks

2008-08-08 17:45:03

#2

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Motherboard model would be nice.

If its P35, I guarantee!

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 17:46:24

#3

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

ok, where do i find my motherboard model? lol

2008-08-08 17:50:32

#4

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Short of cracking the thing open and finding the number, try dxdiag or CPU-Z.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 17:54:49

#5

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

ok, um

dell inc
0KF623

?

2008-08-08 18:13:01

#6

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/c … erview.htm

Supports 1066 FSB, so it takes the E4000 series. A BIOS update may support the E7000 series.

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2008-08-08 18:15:18

#7

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

ok thanks for the help

you know what im going to ask next?

2008-08-08 18:57:50

#8

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 19:02:53

#9

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6465|Winland

i945G doesn't do 45nm. I'd get an E2200 or E4*00.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-08-08 19:05:33

#10

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Freezer7Pro wrote:
i945G doesn't do 45nm. I'd get an E2200 or E4*00.

Oh right, I forgot about the battle.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 19:07:08

#11

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|6984|Riva, MD

No, incorrect. It will not support any Core 2, I googled the mobo and found out that it uses the i945G chipset. You will be able to use dual core but it will only work with a Pentium D, not a Core 2. Core 2s are simply incompatible with that chipset.

Cheez wrote:
Motherboard model would be nice.

If its P35, I guarantee!

If it were a P35, he wouldn't even be able to use the processor he has in it now.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2008-08-08 19:17:54)

2008-08-08 19:21:05

#12

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

right

so what would be the logical thing to do?

get a not as good cpu

get a new motherboard with the e7200

or a complete new rig all together

2008-08-08 19:23:15

#13

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|6984|Riva, MD

SamTheMan:D wrote:
right

so what would be the logical thing to do?

get a not as good cpu

get a new motherboard with the e7200

or a complete new rig all together

Obviously a new rig would be great unless you already have PCI-e and DDR2 support and since I have both of those on an older version of the same chipset (i915G), I'm sure you do too.

You could get a new motherboard and CPU if you wanted to but it might be cheaper just to get a Pentium D instead. Too bad you can't buy from this place:

http://www.starmicro.net/SearchResult.a … goryID=122

Btw, what you're using right now isn't actual dual core, it's hyper-threaded, which is like virtual dual core.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthreading

Last edited by _j5689_ (2008-08-08 19:25:00)

2008-08-08 19:25:29

#14

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

_j5689_ wrote:
No, incorrect. It will not support any Core 2, I googled the mobo and found out that it uses the i945G chipset. You will be able to use dual core but it will only work with a Pentium D, not a Core 2. Core 2s are simply incompatible with that chipset.

Horse's mouth says otherwise

_j5689_ wrote:
Cheez wrote:
Motherboard model would be nice.

If its P35, I guarantee!
If it were a P35, he wouldn't even be able to use the processor he has in it now.

P35 can most definitely take Prescott.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 19:32:58

#15

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|6984|Riva, MD

Cheez wrote:
_j5689_ wrote:
No, incorrect. It will not support any Core 2, I googled the mobo and found out that it uses the i945G chipset. You will be able to use dual core but it will only work with a Pentium D, not a Core 2. Core 2s are simply incompatible with that chipset.
Horse's mouth says otherwise
_j5689_ wrote:
Cheez wrote:
Motherboard model would be nice.

If its P35, I guarantee!
If it were a P35, he wouldn't even be able to use the processor he has in it now.
P35 can most definitely take Prescott.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/int … 607-3.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_chip … 2_Chipsets

"Support for all Netburst based processors was officially dropped starting with the P35 chipset family."

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2008-08-08 19:43:24

#16

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Key word: Support

CPU Support List for EP35-DS3

O/T: An E4700 if you can find one, or get a P45 and E8400 if you can afford it.

You're memory is DDR2 and your video card is PCI-E.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 19:49:00

#17

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6465|Winland

_j5689_, you are way off. This is some of the poorest advice I've seen in tech in quite a while. I'm sorry to say.

First off, the i945 does all the 65nm duals. It doesn't do the 45nm duals, or any quads.

Secondly, the Bearlakes can very well take Prescotts. How do I know this? Because I hit 4.51GHz on a motherfucking Prescott on my very own P35 chipset.

Third, when posting sources, I'd look for ones that actually are from after the release of mentioned hardware. That article you linked is over a year old, from a month before the release of mentioned chipsets, consisting of nothing but rumours and pre-release data.

Sam can mount any standard 1066FSB 65nm dual he wants, if he'd so like an X6800.

Now take your ES Bearlakes without NetBurst support, and outdated sources, and kindly shove them up your arse.

Sorry if I sound like an ass, but A: I just wasted 15GB on a shitty movie, and B: Your advice makes me sick. Nothing personal.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-08-08 20:33:53

#18

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6706|King Of The Islands

Easy m80. He wasn't 'wrong' at all. We are working outside the realm of Officially Supported.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2008-08-08 21:19:35

#19

The_Sniper_NM: Official EVGA Fanboy; +94|6381|SC | USA |

Thou shall not challenge the master of P4's and DDR RAM.

2008-08-09 05:10:36

#20

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

ok you all lost me

freezer what should i do?

thanks for all the help cheez

2008-08-09 06:49:43

#21

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6465|Winland

SamTheMan:D wrote:
ok you all lost me

freezer what should i do?

thanks for all the help cheez

Get this or this.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-08-09 07:04:55

#22

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

<3

you never hacked btw

2008-08-09 07:59:01

#23

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6465|Winland

SamTheMan:D wrote:
<3

you never hacked btw

<3

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-08-09 09:47:05

#24

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|6984|Riva, MD

FUCK, I always fail when I try to help

2008-08-27 13:31:04

#25

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6242|England

update,

so i got the e4700, took my old cpu out and fitted this with no trouble

only the cooler/fan wouldn't fit, so i just thought id stick with my old one and it would be fine. right!?!

so, when i start my pc the light goes yellow instead of green, which according to dell is because it is because: "The computer is receiving power and providing power to all the hardware inside. However, data is not being transferred properly."

monitor light is on but no signal being received, also mouse/keyboard aren't lighting up

any help?

thank yee

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