Actually im going to rely to the origanal poster i think the spitfire is superior to the f35 f22 and anything else.
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It has 3 weapons and a pilot so it would take 4 people. I belive its a 105 cannon, 40mm cannon and 25-30mm machine gun something like that its nuts.1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
It's not a GL its a real artillery piece! I don't know what piece thou. In, BF2 the AC-130 would have to have a gunner for each weapon system. If I remeber right I think there are four weapon pieces onboard.belikeron wrote:
I want bf2 to have the A-10 and the AC-130. Oh and AAVs please, with thier 40mm grenade laucnher =p
It would be next to impossible to keep the thing in the air though, with all the jets buzzing around at 1500mph. Not to mention mobile AA and AA missles. People would fly choppers into it too.
Now if it was a fixed US spawn point that just circled the map with 3 attack positions on it that would be so awsome. Have it like the Carriers in BF1942, that could e sunk(shot down in this case) and would respawn in 5 minutes or so.
I still think artillary should be player controled, and snipers should still be needed to forward observe.
I have mixed feelings. I have to transfer and and I have to study like none other! I'll miss my old bird thou. Yet, it's the F/A-22! Who wouldn't want to fly it?jord wrote:
ok ok.So you looking forward to piloting the f22?1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
Man I'm just hogging this topic! Cut me some slack it's about my job.
Haha sorry to say we don't fly that fast in the Combat Zone. Hahabelikeron wrote:
It has 3 weapons and a pilot so it would take 4 people. I belive its a 105 cannon, 40mm cannon and 25-30mm machine gun something like that its nuts.1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
It's not a GL its a real artillery piece! I don't know what piece thou. In, BF2 the AC-130 would have to have a gunner for each weapon system. If I remeber right I think there are four weapon pieces onboard.belikeron wrote:
I want bf2 to have the A-10 and the AC-130. Oh and AAVs please, with thier 40mm grenade laucnher =p
It would be next to impossible to keep the thing in the air though, with all the jets buzzing around at 1500mph. Not to mention mobile AA and AA missles. People would fly choppers into it too.
Now if it was a fixed US spawn point that just circled the map with 3 attack positions on it that would be so awsome. Have it like the Carriers in BF1942, that could e sunk(shot down in this case) and would respawn in 5 minutes or so.
I still think artillary should be player controled, and snipers should still be needed to forward observe.
But yeah Mobile Spawns from what I hear about from 1942 were pretty sick! The flight plans would be on a 180 bank to the left so the weapons could pour the lead out of the H-Bird! I wish there was a map like how it looked during the Gulf War.
Wide open and just flat out desert. Not a plant or nothing! Almost like the level El Alemien in BF1942 from what I hear on that to is just flat. Tanks and APC's going at each other and have the 10's and the 15C's to swoop down and drop a LUGB here and there! Gives me a second chance of the Gulf War to do my job again. The AC-130 would be the new "noob toob "
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Your prayers have been answered, the A-10 will be in Aromored Fury; Look at the pictures in the post I have linked you to: http://www.21stcenturywarfare.com/archi … -1232.html
A Wiki that gives better info about it all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2_Armored_Fury
F-15s are the best jets ever created. END OF STORY.
Look most of my fellow pilots flew most of those! I hope there is like a level like I remember from the Gulf War. The closest thing to it is like the desert parts in Jarhead. Like that, just 2 bases far away from each other and filled with Armor and and Aircraft! and troops would clear out the trenches and defences that MEC would have a spawn points.
Well, I would say the f-22 raptor. There won't be many f-22's made, but from what I have read about them and the f-35, the raptor is better. Check the pictures in my sig. Or try googling f-35, or f-22.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/ - stuff about the F-35
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f22/ - stuff about the F-22
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/ - stuff about the F-35
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f22/ - stuff about the F-22
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HOORAH Brother!DarkObsidian wrote:
F-15s are the best jets ever created. END OF STORY.
Well, AF won't include foreign maps, the maps take place on U.S. soil like it said. In one level in Pennysylvania you can drive an Abrams down I-95, lol.
Hey look whats cruising with it? OOO an F-15. The F/A-22 was made to take the F-15's place.(BRU)Timothy wrote:
Well, I would say the f-22 raptor. There won't be many f-22's made, but from what I have read about them and the f-35, the raptor is better. Check the pictures in my sig. Or try googling f-35, or f-22.
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I know.1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
Hey look whats cruising with it? OOO an F-15. The F/A-22 was made to take the F-15's place.(BRU)Timothy wrote:
Well, I would say the f-22 raptor. There won't be many f-22's made, but from what I have read about them and the f-35, the raptor is better. Check the pictures in my sig. Or try googling f-35, or f-22.
FOOLS! Eurofighter OWNS ALL!
O really how so?
Let me post them myself:_j5689_ wrote:
Your prayers have been answered, the A-10 will be in Aromored Fury; Look at the pictures in the post I have linked you to: http://www.21stcenturywarfare.com/archi … -1232.html




And the UAV helo:

Well i know its not in the game but for out right capabilty in the Air at this moment it has to go to the SU-37a its got Thrust Vectoring that can turn the nozzles any which direction in a 360 deg circle so basically imagine standing a plane on its tail and spinning and you have just part of its capabilties plus its capable of supercruize at 1.6mach but out of the game i would have to side with the Mig 29 for looks and just for shear love the F-15
Hell yeah. I've seen some documentaries that show footage of the SU-37 doing flips and other tricks with its thrust vectoring. Very impressive. Also an all-around good fighter.Lestat<CoN> wrote:
Well i know its not in the game but for out right capabilty in the Air at this moment it has to go to the SU-37a its got Thrust Vectoring that can turn the nozzles any which direction in a 360 deg circle so basically imagine standing a plane on its tail and spinning and you have just part of its capabilties plus its capable of supercruize at 1.6mach but out of the game i would have to side with the Mig 29 for looks and just for shear love the F-15
Anyway, in game, I'd say the MiG-29 Fulcrum in my opinion. Second would be the SU-30 Flanker, but EA made it into a fighter-bomber instead of the long range air superiority fighter it's supposed to be.
I have an uncle who works on the new F/A 22 Raptors.
How can you really judge all the planes in one catagory? What about for each role Ground Attack, Bomber, Fighter?
Anyway...
The AC-130 would be awesome. It could replace the artillery. "request close air support on this position". The plane would circle the area and pound it like the artillery does.
Anyway...
The AC-130 would be awesome. It could replace the artillery. "request close air support on this position". The plane would circle the area and pound it like the artillery does.
MiG-29 for the win!

Only question I have is....how does a F-15C get an A/G kill? The F-15C/D have no air to ground capabilities, with the exception of the gun...but that wouldn't stop a tank even with HEI. I know this as I load munitions in the AF...and have for the last 11 years...and will till I hit 20 . In fact when we do our functional checks....if the A/G video lines from the CP(Computer Programer) cause the fail...we disconnect and stow the connecter. Only the F-15E carries A/G munitions.....though I am not saying the F-15C/D is no good. It does have the best radar for A/A. Also from watching the war games from the observation room during Red Flag(War Games at Nellis AFB) the F-15C/D's ate up the F-16 Agressors....though one of the F-15s almost flew into the square area in the middle of the play area....which is HIGHLY offlimits.1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
The A-10 didn't give us F-15C's a chance in the Gulf War! I flew 13 sorties and only 1 confirmed kill that was a T-80 MBT. Our unit wanted more, but those A-10's bet us to our objectives.
Also the A-10 is a flying tank.
AC-130H has a 105mm Howitzer and a 40mm Bofars cannon. It had 2 x 20mm M61A1, but they took them out as they was not as effective from 5000+ feet in the air. When they was used in the 60's and 70's they also had 2 x 7.62mm guns. BUT the AC-130U has 105mm,40mm, and 25mm(soon to be replaced with a 30mm(same as whats in an A-10, but will be diffrent gun)) I actually got a flight in on e of these as we came back from a TDY. the 40mm will rock the plan, but the 105 is a beast. u get pushed back in ur seat when they fire it. It has a 45 inch recoil and causes the planes ass end to slide 8 feet in the air. Got to seat in the booth with the sensor operator and watch him blow the crap out of the static tanks and trucks on the range. The gunner crew is 3 or 4 for the 105, and I think 3 for the 40mm, but they don't shot both at the same time....I think it's 4 gunners at once.1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
It's not a GL its a real artillery piece! I don't know what piece thou. In, BF2 the AC-130 would have to have a gunner for each weapon system. If I remeber right I think there are four weapon pieces onboard.
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I think the paper airplane would win... That's where all these planes started from anyway.
???? what happened to opsec?1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
I have to say F-15C because I fly them! 4 enemy targets is not true, its only 3. and plus it's not 100 miles its only 60-75 NMs and thats only with ARAAMs, thous we can carry 4 or 3 UGBs. Thanks for choosing my plane! But, I gotta say I'm being reordered to the F/A-22 in 2 years so we will see if that lives up to it's glory that I hear about all over base. The Doppler rader on the bird helps a TON in 0.1 visablity!sragoot wrote:
I say the F-15E STRIKE EAGLE cause its been tried and tested under combat conditions and came out on top on every single engagement and its improved doplar radar can spot multiple enemy air targets from over 100 miles away, and can engage up to 4 enemy air targets at once. Also it can bomb the hell out of the enemy with pin point accuracy and switch right back to the role of an air superiority fighter with a flick of a switch. This plane is a marvel of technology.
What are every body elses thoughts on this, if this has been posted already, so bloody what.
He didn't say anything you can't read in a book at any library or book store.mhawk wrote:
???? what happened to opsec?1stLt.MikeUSAF wrote:
I have to say F-15C because I fly them! 4 enemy targets is not true, its only 3. and plus it's not 100 miles its only 60-75 NMs and thats only with ARAAMs, thous we can carry 4 or 3 UGBs. Thanks for choosing my plane! But, I gotta say I'm being reordered to the F/A-22 in 2 years so we will see if that lives up to it's glory that I hear about all over base. The Doppler rader on the bird helps a TON in 0.1 visablity!sragoot wrote:
I say the F-15E STRIKE EAGLE cause its been tried and tested under combat conditions and came out on top on every single engagement and its improved doplar radar can spot multiple enemy air targets from over 100 miles away, and can engage up to 4 enemy air targets at once. Also it can bomb the hell out of the enemy with pin point accuracy and switch right back to the role of an air superiority fighter with a flick of a switch. This plane is a marvel of technology.
What are every body elses thoughts on this, if this has been posted already, so bloody what.
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