No one's really arguing here Pug now are they? What is apparent from the article however is who exactly is profiting from the 'war on terror'.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
Just how are people who are building a country's infrastructure "mercenaries"?TheAussieReaper wrote:
Contractors - Mercenaries with Government support.
Blackwater aren't building infrastructure, are they?FEOS wrote:
Just how are people who are building a country's infrastructure "mercenaries"?TheAussieReaper wrote:
Contractors - Mercenaries with Government support.
If you hired Iraqi contractors/civilians, have your army train and supervise them, (as they have trained some of the police) you would be doing much more benefit to both the people and country.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
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Do you agree with your taxes money being spent there?Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
Well apparently according to a lot of Christians on this forum the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' is actually 'Thou shalt not murder' and hence they can wriggle out of accusations of breaking the commandments by trying to justify their killings as being of some benefit to 'the greater good' of free Iraqis or the Western world.JahManRed wrote:
Funny how the owner of Blackwater is a Fundamentalist Christian Rapture nutter who is profiteering from war. Not very Christian.
That's true but Blackwater has done an incredible amount of damage to the public image of contractors in Iraq and the subsequent lack of punishment for the numerous Blackwater incidents has led many people to continue to criticize the US for the way in which they hand out and regulate contracts in Iraq.jord wrote:
You know it's funny how everyone mentions Blackwater, clearly the worst company out there. It's like saying all ISP's are shit money grabbing corporations because you've got AOL.
My uncles a contractor in Iraq with a proper company. One that doesn't fire randomly down a street shouting "YEEE HAAA GET SOME MOTHERFUCKA!!!".
Blackwater should be shut down as soon as possible. Where the hell is their public relations guy? Sitting in the back too afraid to speak up.Braddock wrote:
That's true but Blackwater has done an incredible amount of damage to the public image of contractors in Iraq and the subsequent lack of punishment for the numerous Blackwater incidents has led many people to continue to criticize the US for the way in which they hand out and regulate contracts in Iraq.jord wrote:
You know it's funny how everyone mentions Blackwater, clearly the worst company out there. It's like saying all ISP's are shit money grabbing corporations because you've got AOL.
My uncles a contractor in Iraq with a proper company. One that doesn't fire randomly down a street shouting "YEEE HAAA GET SOME MOTHERFUCKA!!!".
Your right. Maybe it would be easier to fire Blackwater and hire someone else who can do a respectable job.jord wrote:
Blackwater should be shut down as soon as possible. Where the hell is their public relations guy? Sitting in the back too afraid to speak up.
There's over 20 contracting agencies. Just shut down BW and if they want to join another more professional company they can go through rigorous tests.TheAussieReaper wrote:
Your right. Maybe it would be easier to fire Blackwater and hire someone else who can do a respectable job.jord wrote:
Blackwater should be shut down as soon as possible. Where the hell is their public relations guy? Sitting in the back too afraid to speak up.
Who'd responsible for doing that, then..?
The Bush Administration.
Hmmm....isn't that the same question I asked you?sergeriver wrote:
Do you agree with your taxes money being spent there?Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
Contractors hire the local folks. I have a friend who managed an Iraqi work team of about 150.TheAussieReaper wrote:
If you hired Iraqi contractors/civilians, have your army train and supervise them, (as they have trained some of the police) you would be doing much more benefit to both the people and country.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
Plus winning the hearts and minds.
It would also cost less, don't you agree?
Hmmm...so before the war, Saddam kept everything....Braddock wrote:
No one's really arguing here Pug now are they? What is apparent from the article however is who exactly is profiting from the 'war on terror'.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
Then that's great, he's doing exactly what he should be.Pug wrote:
Contractors hire the local folks. I have a friend who managed an Iraqi work team of about 150.
Hold on, let me see if I follow your logic here. The allied forces declare war on Iraq and destroy most of the infrastructure and the Iraqis are supposed to be pleased because some of them get hired as part of the rebuilding process? To me that would be like someone smashing into my car and then paying me to repair it.Pug wrote:
Hmmm...so before the war, Saddam kept everything....Braddock wrote:
No one's really arguing here Pug now are they? What is apparent from the article however is who exactly is profiting from the 'war on terror'.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
....after the war contractors rebuild and the Iraqis get a bigger share of the profits then they did with Saddam.
Or did I get that wrong?
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?Braddock wrote:
Hold on, let me see if I follow your logic here. The allied forces declare war on Iraq and destroy most of the infrastructure and the Iraqis are supposed to be pleased because some of them get hired as part of the rebuilding process? To me that would be like someone smashing into my car and then paying me to repair it.Pug wrote:
Hmmm...so before the war, Saddam kept everything....Braddock wrote:
No one's really arguing here Pug now are they? What is apparent from the article however is who exactly is profiting from the 'war on terror'.
....after the war contractors rebuild and the Iraqis get a bigger share of the profits then they did with Saddam.
Or did I get that wrong?
Ahhh, maybe I'm arguing that if you hadn't destroyed the country in the first place there would be nothing to rebuild and hence no money to be made out of the situation.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?Braddock wrote:
Hold on, let me see if I follow your logic here. The allied forces declare war on Iraq and destroy most of the infrastructure and the Iraqis are supposed to be pleased because some of them get hired as part of the rebuilding process? To me that would be like someone smashing into my car and then paying me to repair it.Pug wrote:
Hmmm...so before the war, Saddam kept everything....
....after the war contractors rebuild and the Iraqis get a bigger share of the profits then they did with Saddam.
Or did I get that wrong?
Iraqi was a functioning society. People didn't send their wages to Saddam. They worked they got payed, they could invest, develop etc, just like any other nations ppl. Yes their was a tyrant at the helm, but he didn't micro manage every piece of business in the country. They weren't Communist. Way more Iraqis out of work today than before the "war of terror".Pug wrote:
Hmmm...so before the war, Saddam kept everything....Braddock wrote:
No one's really arguing here Pug now are they? What is apparent from the article however is who exactly is profiting from the 'war on terror'.Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?
....after the war contractors rebuild and the Iraqis get a bigger share of the profits then they did with Saddam.
Or did I get that wrong?
I didn't know who you were addressing. I guess the US shouldn't have gone to iraq in the first place. That can't be fixed, so I guess you should GTFO and let Iraq sort their shit out. Now are you happy with your money being spent in Iraq?Pug wrote:
Hmmm....isn't that the same question I asked you?sergeriver wrote:
Do you agree with your taxes money being spent there?Pug wrote:
Ahh, so I guess you're arguing that we shouldn't be doing reconstruction?