RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7135|US
This is ridiculous!  The city council just suspended the 1st Amendment.  I never imagined being stopped on the street by SWAT style police because I was going to work!...at least not in the US.  I guess your out of luck if you work nights, since you apparently don't have the right to travel outside at night.  What happened to the Bill of Rights?

Thoughts and comments?

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/08/13/24- … e-of-aclu/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_ … own_curfew
http://www.helena-arkansas.com/news/x33 … noon-today

Wall Street Journal Blog wrote:

We’ve never been to Helena, Arkansas, but these days it doesn’t sound like such a welcoming place. The poverty-stricken town has been under a 24-hour curfew for a week, during which time officers armed with military rifles have been stopping and questioning passers-by in one neighborhood.

On Tuesday, the Helena-West Helena City Council (the two towns merged a few years ago) voted 9-0 to allow police to expand that program into any area of the city, despite a warning from a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas that the police stops were unconstitutional. Here’s the AP story, and one from the Helena Daily-World.

According to the AP, Helena-West Helena, with 15,000 residents at the edge of Arkansas’ eastern rice fields and farmland, is in one of the nation’s poorest regions, trailing even parts of Appalachia in its standard of living.

Police Chief Fred Fielder said the patrols have netted 32 arrests since they began last week in a 10-block neighborhood. The council said those living in the city want the random shootings and drug-fueled violence to stop, no matter what the cost.

“Now if somebody wants to sue us, they have an option to sue, but I’m fairly certain that a judge will see it the way the way the citizens see it here,” Mayor James Valley said. “The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK and we have not violated anything as far as the Constitution.”

Holly Dickson, a lawyer for the ACLU of Arkansas who addressed the council at its Tuesday meeting predicted that any convictions coming from the arrests likely would be overturned. “The residents of these high-crime areas are already victims,” she said. “They’re victims of what are happening in the neighborhoods, they’re victims of fear. But for them to be subject to unlawful stops and questioning . . . that is not going to ultimately going to help this situation.”

Last edited by RAIMIUS (2008-08-13 18:10:28)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6710|Éire
Drip drip drip.

Welcome to the police-state system of Government.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7041|London, England
24 hour curfew, lmfao
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6876|The edge of sanity
Sounds like bullshit to me. If the citizens give the government the right to take away freedoms once than what is to stop them from doing it in the future?
latinolink
plop plop flop flop
+11|7077|west liberty IA
that mayor is so fucked up by saying "“The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK...."
sounds like commie talk to me.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6710|Éire

latinolink wrote:

that mayor is so fucked up by saying "“The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK...."
sounds like commie talk to me.
Sounds like modern day American talk to me.
latinolink
plop plop flop flop
+11|7077|west liberty IA

Braddock wrote:

latinolink wrote:

that mayor is so fucked up by saying "“The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK...."
sounds like commie talk to me.
Sounds like modern day American talk to me.
Well anyways does this show how much power we give to our government? I mean what drives a politicians to do something like this?
I will say one thing if they "infringe" anymore constitutional rights (which I doubt, but still a possibility) I would either one move out there or take prison, but must suck for the people who have to live up there or maybe they're happy I don't know they could be brainwashed leaving them to think that this is for the better of the community.

Last edited by latinolink (2008-08-14 03:02:13)

nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6744|New Haven, CT
"He who forgoes liberty for security deserves neither"...
JahManRed
wank
+646|7048|IRELAND

Get tooled up and head out at night. Any cops come near you, shoot them and say your are militia protecting the constitution.

Ok that's abit extreme, but the day is coming, the milita is needed.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7135|US

Braddock wrote:

latinolink wrote:

that mayor is so fucked up by saying "“The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK...."
sounds like commie talk to me.
Sounds like modern day American talk to me.
Agreed, on both posts...and that's what's so scary to me!

Wasn't it Jefferson who said something about the natural course is for liberty to yield and government to expand?  The last 200 years have proven him correct.

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