BF2S Forums Will Consoles Leave PC Out of the Videogames Business?

Hell no, some people pride themselves on their superfast gaming computer systems. With people out there willing to spend that much money to game on computers I dont think developers would release games only for consoles.

The main (and in many cases only) reason why some games come out only for a certain console is because of deals with the console's manufacturer. MSG4 for instance, had Sony not had a deal with Komnami, would have not been a PS3 exclusive. With the only reason any games are made PC exclusive is because of the developers, who either feel that their game is better suited for the PC's superior controls or hardware (such as Crytek with Crysis), or just do not have the resources to devellop for multiple systems and the PC is by far the easiest and cheapest to make games for (as with Crytek with Far Cry).

However the PC does have two things that the consoles don't: non-static hardware and larger user-base. As we all know the preformace of PC's drastically increases year after year, where as the consoles' hardware is always the same unit a new system is released. This means that later on in the console generation the PC will have a big sales advantage. Take 2004, where Doom3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcarft and the Sims 2 all sold redicuous numbers of copies and were all PC exclusives, the reason for that was by 2004 the PC had far outpaced the consoles in terms of hardware, so the best devellopers made the best games PC only.

Second point is that the PC has a larger user base. Now few PC games will outsell something like Halo or MSG, however PC games sales will still be much larger than those of a single console, and that is because the PC's userbase is larger yet broader. Most people who bought an XBox360 did so with the prospect of getting Halo 3 in mind, same with the PS3 and MSG4. With the PC however the user-base is split between many different games, Half-Life, CnC, WoW, the Sims, all very different games but have all done extremely well on the PC, and that's because the PC has a broader audience than the consoles.

Video games were started for the computer, why would you want to own something that serves only minimal functions?

A computer can do everything a console can and more. They will last longer.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

The main (and in many cases only) reason why some games come out only for a certain console is because of deals with the console's manufacturer. MSG4 for instance, had Sony not had a deal with Komnami, would have not been a PS3 exclusive. With the only reason any games are made PC exclusive is because of the developers, who either feel that their game is better suited for the PC's superior controls or hardware (such as Crytek with Crysis), or just do not have the resources to devellop for multiple systems and the PC is by far the easiest and cheapest to make games for (as with Crytek with Far Cry).

However the PC does have two things that the consoles don't: non-static hardware and larger user-base. As we all know the preformace of PC's drastically increases year after year, where as the consoles' hardware is always the same unit a new system is released. This means that later on in the console generation the PC will have a big sales advantage. Take 2004, where Doom3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcarft and the Sims 2 all sold redicuous numbers of copies and were all PC exclusives, the reason for that was by 2004 the PC had far outpaced the consoles in terms of hardware, so the best devellopers made the best games PC only.

Second point is that the PC has a larger user base. Now few PC games will outsell something like Halo or MSG, however PC games sales will still be much larger than those of a single console, and that is because the PC's userbase is larger yet broader. Most people who bought an XBox360 did so with the prospect of getting Halo 3 in mind, same with the PS3 and MSG4. With the PC however the user-base is split between many different games, Half-Life, CnC, WoW, the Sims, all very different games but have all done extremely well on the PC, and that's because the PC has a broader audience than the consoles.

I agree with most except for the broader audience statement, consoles have by far a broader audience, I don't know how you can say pc's do. The whole act of building a capable gaming rig is intimidating and for younger children and the lazy majority it is simpler to just go out and buy a console where you know right out of the box that you can play any PS3 games. PC takes a bit of intelligence that some families dont have and its easy to buy little billy a PS3 rather then get on Newegg and research the best parts for the best price, it just doesnt happen

yes and no like why dor $1000 on a PC when u can get a console for $399

Mutantsteak wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

The main (and in many cases only) reason why some games come out only for a certain console is because of deals with the console's manufacturer. MSG4 for instance, had Sony not had a deal with Komnami, would have not been a PS3 exclusive. With the only reason any games are made PC exclusive is because of the developers, who either feel that their game is better suited for the PC's superior controls or hardware (such as Crytek with Crysis), or just do not have the resources to devellop for multiple systems and the PC is by far the easiest and cheapest to make games for (as with Crytek with Far Cry).

However the PC does have two things that the consoles don't: non-static hardware and larger user-base. As we all know the preformace of PC's drastically increases year after year, where as the consoles' hardware is always the same unit a new system is released. This means that later on in the console generation the PC will have a big sales advantage. Take 2004, where Doom3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcarft and the Sims 2 all sold redicuous numbers of copies and were all PC exclusives, the reason for that was by 2004 the PC had far outpaced the consoles in terms of hardware, so the best devellopers made the best games PC only.

Second point is that the PC has a larger user base. Now few PC games will outsell something like Halo or MSG, however PC games sales will still be much larger than those of a single console, and that is because the PC's userbase is larger yet broader. Most people who bought an XBox360 did so with the prospect of getting Halo 3 in mind, same with the PS3 and MSG4. With the PC however the user-base is split between many different games, Half-Life, CnC, WoW, the Sims, all very different games but have all done extremely well on the PC, and that's because the PC has a broader audience than the consoles.

I agree with most except for the broader audience statement, consoles have by far a broader audience, I don't know how you can say pc's do. The whole act of building a capable gaming rig is intimidating and for younger children and the lazy majority it is simpler to just go out and buy a console where you know right out of the box that you can play any PS3 games. PC takes a bit of intelligence that some families dont have and its easy to buy little billy a PS3 rather then get on Newegg and research the best parts for the best price, it just doesnt happen

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i … tory=18843

PC = 260 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360#Sales

360= 19 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3#Sales_ … tion_costs

PS3  = 14.41 Million

I'd say that's at least a little broader audience

Last edited by Miggle (2008-08-15 17:58:53)

sergeriver wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

I agree with most except for the broader audience statement, consoles have by far a broader audience, I don't know how you can say pc's do. The whole act of building a capable gaming rig is intimidating and for younger children and the lazy majority it is simpler to just go out and buy a console where you know right out of the box that you can play any PS3 games. PC takes a bit of intelligence that some families dont have and its easy to buy little billy a PS3 rather then get on Newegg and research the best parts for the best price, it just doesnt happen

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i … tory=18843

PC = 260 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360#Sales

360= 19 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3#Sales_ … tion_costs

PS3  = 14.41 Million

I'd say that's at least a little broader audience

You are missing a couple of systems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be … e_consoles

so total consoles sold is higher than pc gamers.

but only the Xbox, 360, Wii, and PS3 have online.

And only PS2, PS3, Wii, and 360 are still getting games.

oh god the dreamcast

i remember that

good times

Miggle wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Miggle wrote:

so total consoles sold is higher than pc gamers.

but only the Xbox, 360, Wii, and PS3 have online.

And only PS2, PS3, Wii, and 360 are still getting games.

Consoles sales grow faster than PC's.

but not by as much.

Not yet.  On a side note, PS2 140 million, lol.  And they still sell it.  Amazing.

Mutantsteak wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

The main (and in many cases only) reason why some games come out only for a certain console is because of deals with the console's manufacturer. MSG4 for instance, had Sony not had a deal with Komnami, would have not been a PS3 exclusive. With the only reason any games are made PC exclusive is because of the developers, who either feel that their game is better suited for the PC's superior controls or hardware (such as Crytek with Crysis), or just do not have the resources to devellop for multiple systems and the PC is by far the easiest and cheapest to make games for (as with Crytek with Far Cry).

However the PC does have two things that the consoles don't: non-static hardware and larger user-base. As we all know the preformace of PC's drastically increases year after year, where as the consoles' hardware is always the same unit a new system is released. This means that later on in the console generation the PC will have a big sales advantage. Take 2004, where Doom3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcarft and the Sims 2 all sold redicuous numbers of copies and were all PC exclusives, the reason for that was by 2004 the PC had far outpaced the consoles in terms of hardware, so the best devellopers made the best games PC only.

Second point is that the PC has a larger user base. Now few PC games will outsell something like Halo or MSG, however PC games sales will still be much larger than those of a single console, and that is because the PC's userbase is larger yet broader. Most people who bought an XBox360 did so with the prospect of getting Halo 3 in mind, same with the PS3 and MSG4. With the PC however the user-base is split between many different games, Half-Life, CnC, WoW, the Sims, all very different games but have all done extremely well on the PC, and that's because the PC has a broader audience than the consoles.

I agree with most except for the broader audience statement, consoles have by far a broader audience, I don't know how you can say pc's do. The whole act of building a capable gaming rig is intimidating and for younger children and the lazy majority it is simpler to just go out and buy a console where you know right out of the box that you can play any PS3 games. PC takes a bit of intelligence that some families dont have and its easy to buy little billy a PS3 rather then get on Newegg and research the best parts for the best price, it just doesnt happen

PC's have a broader base as they have more different types of gamers using the PC. On consoles you usually have everyone getting a console for one or two games, where as with the PC everyone has very different tastes in gaming.The 360 and PS3, seem to be more appealing to the high-school/college age-group, as as a result has mostly big, tough manly games that Dethklok would consider metal. The Wii appeals mostly to kids and people with short attention spans, and as such most games have allot of colors and fun and stuff but not much depth or violence.

On the PC however you really have every type of gamer imaginable, including some types that aren't on the console (unfortunately however these guys are the MMO Zombie and Elitist Fuck-tard, but you still see few of those on the consoles). You have the big tough manly games and the colorful and fun yet shallow ones, but you also have the epic addictive ones and the sort of torturous to new players kind that take ridiculous amounts of skill that are good for people who like to think they're better than anyone else.

i was once a big time pc gamer. loved the controls , and the power of the system that can run games at 60+fps.  i just got tired of emptying my bank account just for upgrades. several thousand dollars of upgrades just for a $50.00 USD game does not seem practical to me anymore even though i make good money to this date.

specialistx2324 wrote:

i was once a big time pc gamer. loved the controls , and the power of the system that can run games at 60+fps.  i just got tired of emptying my bank account just for upgrades. several thousand dollars of upgrades just for a $50.00 USD game does not seem practical to me anymore even though i make good money to this date.

Upgrading every 2-3 years works for me and most of the gaming dudes I know in person..........