First Joint Forum at Saddleback Church

2008-08-16 15:24:13

#1

SealXo: Member; +309|6956

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12574.html

Obama and McCain are going to be at the evangelical megachurch in Lake Forest, CA (thing holds a zillion people) talking about things such as HIV and other evangelical issues. I was thinking about going, but i guess its on TV so I'll just check it out from there.

But anyways, this is there first appearance together. Thoughts? Predictions from the audience?

Edit: BTW i think its on Fox at 5? if you want to watch.

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2008-08-16 16:05:31

#2

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6825|North Carolina

I predict that trivial social issues like gay marriage will trump the real economic issues.

2008-08-16 16:23:24

#3

SealXo: Member; +309|6956

Turquoise wrote:
I predict that trivial social issues like gay marriage will trump the real economic issues.

Rick Warren said he would not mention either gay marriage or abortion.
Interesting I think.

2008-08-16 16:24:33

#4

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6825|North Carolina

That's good then... Maybe we'll get to things like Iraq, balancing the budget, and healthcare.

2008-08-16 16:28:03

#5

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6949|Global Command

Warren Warren Warren.

I think he is turning into a media whore. His mug on time magazine annoys me.

And I sometimes go to Saddleback.

2008-08-16 18:26:39

#6

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6958|Long Island, New York

god damn mccain is so fucking old

gotta say though, i'll always respect him for what he did in Vietnam, especially as a future pilot myself

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2008-08-16 18:41:04

#7

SealXo: Member; +309|6956

Poseidon wrote:
god damn mccain is so fucking old

gotta say though, i'll always respect him for what he did in Vietnam, especially as a future pilot myself

Winston Churchill was old too...

And all politics aside, i think obama totally fucked his time up. He took literally, twice as long to get through half of questions wiht uh every other word?

To me he came off very selfish.

Obama is horrible live with no speech.

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2008-08-16 18:42:10

#8

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6958|Long Island, New York

i didn't even see obama talk tbh

i'm just watching the Jets game now, McCain's putting me to sleep

2008-08-16 18:58:30

#9

SealXo: Member; +309|6956

Poseidon wrote:
i didn't even see obama talk tbh

i'm just watching the Jets game now, McCain's putting me to sleep

lol it was epic

"on my vacation to hawaii...."

He goes, "yeah we need to make sure there arnt so many orphans"
and in my mind i said to myself "I KNOW HOW, MORE PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS!"

and "that quesiton is over my pay grade" when asked about abortion

LOL QUESITONS ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE YOURE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT

and i loved "I dont think justice (so and so) should have been nominated because they didnt have enough experience"
look whos talking....

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2008-08-16 21:24:08

#10

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6949|Global Command

The crowd seemed to like McCain better.

Obama is just not that impressive when he is speaking off the cuff.

2008-08-16 21:30:23

#11

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6825|North Carolina

Considering that most evangelicals are conservative, Obama wasn't exactly in his element. It would be like expecting McCain to do well at an environmentalist convention in San Francisco.

2008-08-16 21:44:26

#12

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6949|Global Command

Turquoise wrote:
Considering that most evangelicals are conservative, Obama wasn't exactly in his element. It would be like expecting McCain to do well at an environmentalist convention in San Francisco.

NAh, they kissed Hillaries ass when she was there.

2008-08-16 21:46:12

#13

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6825|North Carolina

ATG wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Considering that most evangelicals are conservative, Obama wasn't exactly in his element. It would be like expecting McCain to do well at an environmentalist convention in San Francisco.
NAh, they kissed Hillaries ass when she was there.

The evangelicals kissed Hillary's ass? Wow... I was so right about linking insanity to religion.

2008-08-17 13:08:41

#14

xBlackPantherx: Grow up, or die; +142|6763|California

Wow, I live very close to this church. I wish I could have seen this.

EDIT: It's actually a nice brand new church where my friend plays violin in most of the weekend masses. I mean, I'm atheist so I rarely get to see her play there but I've played there myself for a concert and it's very nice, brand new, huge and just finished a big new teen center building that I've heard described as, "...holy shit I don't think I've ever seen something as amazingly magical..."

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2008-08-17 17:11:22

#15

Vax: Member; +42|6272|Flyover country

I totally forgot this was on last night, was partying and watching the olympics ...

Found a commentary on it here

CNN has video

And there are vids up at You Tube.

2008-08-17 20:23:24

#16

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6865|The Land of Scott Walker

SealXo wrote:
... He took literally, twice as long to get through half of questions wiht uh every other word? ... Obama is horrible live with no speech.

I've been saying this since day one. Everyone gushes over his speeches, but he sucks at expressing himself without a script. The number of "uh"s and "ah"s are almost painful they're so numerous.

2008-08-17 20:24:16

#17

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6958|Long Island, New York

I'd rather take "uh's and "ah's" over "give hot bottled water to babies" any day of the week.

2008-08-17 20:34:39

#18

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6865|The Land of Scott Walker

Alrighty then

2008-08-17 22:39:35

#19

SealXo: Member; +309|6956

Stingray24 wrote:
SealXo wrote:
... He took literally, twice as long to get through half of questions wiht uh every other word? ... Obama is horrible live with no speech.
I've been saying this since day one. Everyone gushes over his speeches, but he sucks at expressing himself without a script. The number of "uh"s and "ah"s are almost painful they're so numerous.

I just don;t understand, like his answer on abortion. Why he just didn't cleanly answer. Because everyone already knows where he stands on it; Just be honest. I just wish he was a little more truthful. Like I know that its the wrong audience, but other people are watching aswell....

2008-08-18 01:02:41

#20

Vax: Member; +42|6272|Flyover country

I liked how they asked each of them questions without letting them hear the others response

And hearing them both talk unscripted is good, even though they both are obviously in campaign mode.

McCain is better off the cuff than he is at teleprompter...

Bring the debates.

2008-08-18 01:43:54

#21

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6744|New Haven, CT

I love how everyone takes extemporaneous speaking abilities as the sole determinant of a candidates' qualification for office. Giving speeches to people without a script is definitely the only thing our leaders do, after all.

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