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Who is going to see this?

I'm going to.28%28% - 6
Can't but wish I could.23%23% - 5
Not me.47%47% - 10
Total: 21
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6825|North Carolina

Bell wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

topal63 wrote:

The movie is about passing a debt to another generation. There isn't a single reason to stay a failed course or court a collapse, as there are solutions - the fact is no one politically will talk about this issue or seriously address it; it's not a very sexy topic.
...but because they won't talk about it, we're going to fall.  I think that much is clear.  I guess the only safeguard is...  don't have kids.  They're going to grow up in a really fucked up world.  Oh well....
Get your cash out of dollars.  I only have as much in the bank as I need to pay the bills.  Foreign appreciating currencies, gold and silver (well, probably less of a good idea now, but still better than dollars).  Essentially, anything that is tied to the dollar, get rid of it.

Martyn
Good points...  yours too topal...  Although the lightening up only occurs after a few of these... 

https://www.liquorbrands.com/images/warsteiner%20pils%202%20btl.jpg

They even look that blurry after a 6 pack or 2....
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7041|London, England
Hell yes. I'm drinking right now.
topal63
. . .
+533|7138
This is not posted to fan the flames of a Fed conspiracy theory but...
https://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-content/seekingalpha/images/thumb-cash.gif
That is sickening and the major-value-decline-trend of the US dollar begins with the inception of the Fed... I'll have that beer right about now.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-08-16 14:27:30)

Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6969|UK

topal63 wrote:

This is not posted to fan the flames of a Fed conspiracy theory but...
http://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-conte … b-cash.gif
That is sickening and the major-decline-trend of the US dollar begins with the inception of the Fed... I'll have that beer right about now.
Ron Paul said at the republican debate, that the US dollar was worth about 4cents now (january right?) compaired to the dollar when the fed took charge of it.

And, as I said in another thread.  Jefferson warned that the biggest threat to the USA was crazy mofo bankers, rather than some foreign army.

Beer here pl0x

Martyn
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6825|North Carolina
Damn it...  maybe I really should vote for Ron Paul just for the fuck of it....
topal63
. . .
+533|7138

Turquoise wrote:

Damn it...  maybe I really should vote for Ron Paul just for the fuck of it....
It's either that or Obama Christ Superstar...

Or a pasty white guy on the verge of dementia.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6890

topal63 wrote:

This is not posted to fan the flames of a Fed conspiracy theory but...
http://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-conte … b-cash.gif
That is sickening and the major-value-decline-trend of the US dollar begins with the inception of the Fed... I'll have that beer right about now.
Hey if Fed conspiracies are your thing you should check out Part 3 of Zeitgeist .

Don't flame me though, I take the film for entertainment value only.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
topal63
. . .
+533|7138

Uzique wrote:

topal63 wrote:

This is not posted to fan the flames of a Fed conspiracy theory but...
http://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-conte … b-cash.gif
That is sickening and the major-value-decline-trend of the US dollar begins with the inception of the Fed... I'll have that beer right about now.
Hey if Fed conspiracies are your thing you should check out Part 3 of Zeitgeist .

Don't flame me though, I take the film for entertainment value only.
The creation of the Fed, is a little lot better detailed in "The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve."

PS: The only critical problem with the book is that it tries, a bit laboredly, to link banking as an institution with a global socialistic cabal, IMO.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-08-16 14:45:10)

Noobpatty
ʎʇʇɐdqoou
+194|6774|West NY
'if you care then make sure you see this film, even though it won't help anything'
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|7036|do not disturb

Marinejuana wrote:

i agree.

"enough information to resonate with people's fears but not enough for people to actually point any fingers or get anything done."

for example, if this film doesnt assert that current monetary policy was forced on us, just like mexico and most of the world, by international bankers, then right there u see why this film made it past the big $ media filters. the worlds power brokers, the ones that own our banks, corporations and hollywood, WANT us to believe that our constitution, political system, and politicians, are miserable failures and they want us to cry out for some kind of change.

a film can be very close to the truth and yet accomplish very little for those that would watch it and take action. just look at anything by michael moore. do americans need soviet health care? or do they need FAIR PAY? the mere fact that this film is surviving in the pop documentary segment of the market should be a big red flag.

but like i said, i'll hope for the best and watch it, critically.
I understand, but the film is trying to expose our "shadow debt" to the public, something that I've only heard mentioned a few times on cable news, but never talked about as a serious issue. This dwarfs the CAD, and as far as I'm concerned, our debt obligations are part of the CAD, as there seems to be no political will to cut back on our promises, despite being warned on a number of occasions by David Walker when he was the comptroller of the US.

As far as the Fed enslaving us through its monetary policy (whoever has the gold rules) with its fiat currency and more than questionable methods of establishment and being blatantly unconstitutional, it is another story. Complaining about mammoth debt does not necessarily = complaining about central banks, because that is what you are equating it as. The people behind this film may not be aware of the Fed's "true" history, and the flawed economic thought to win people over for it.

I understand with what you are saying about the problem being exposed, with people left wondering who to blame. If people had any common sense they would all cringe at the thought of "universal health care" and all that socialist bullshit, but yes you will have many people saying that socialism is clearly the answer. But that is not the films fault for people being that stupid. When the elephant in the room takes a giant diarrhea dump and it all hits the fan, they can't complain at all because they knew better.

We will always have retarded voters MJ. People who vote for someone solely because they think they are "strong" and can bring "change". It doesn't mean crap if they don't know what they are doing in such critical times. If I'm "strong" and "honest" and "hard working", and someone needs brain surgery but there is no brain surgeon around, why would the group want to elect me to do such a task, when I have no medical experience what soever?

But go watch it mr MJ and tell me how it is. You know my state is too small and insignificant to be concerned for screening this film.

Last edited by Phrozenbot (2008-08-19 14:07:32)

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